Step granddad says he raped nine year old "whenever he felt like it"

[hansnl]

3 hours ago, greenchair said:

He is a stepgrandfather so likely to have a different name. If he was a foreigner his name and face would be all over the media. The time has come for sexual abuse in Thailand  to be laid out for all to see. 

Watch the thousands of victims come forward. 

There's a long way to go. 

 

I do think, however, the accused MUST be guilty, don't you think?

[Justfine]

2 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Not at all. He is innocent until found guilty in court, no matter what he may or may not admit to. Until he is found guilty he is entitled to not have his faced plastered all over the media, just like anyone else.

He admitted guilt.

[DrTuner]

2 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Vigilantism is not acceptable in any civilised society. There are laws and police for that.

The problem here being, Thailand is not a civilized society. 

[DM07]

...and now imagine, how many families keep things under the rug or marry the girl for 5000 Baht to the rapist, later in life!

What a fantastic culture "Thainess" is!

[thaichiro]

Another 500Bt fine and away he goes...

[Blackheart1916]

Kill this one too. No excuses,no questions asked.

[Expatthailover]

3 hours ago, shady86 said:

Competing with India?

A comment like that helps me understand where your user name comes from.

Why is there any need to try and assign nationality to something as heinous as this act.

There are very disturbed/sick people in every nation, unfortunately.

I realise some ( not many ) enjoy pinning nasty traits on the people of other nations, and thais cop an awful lot of outlandish blame from the usual terminally unhappy types

This is a horrible incident..show some respect. 

[Expatthailover]

38 minutes ago, Lupatria said:

Reading the morning news makes it harder every day not to become a Thai basher:

 

Step granddad says he raped nine year old "whenever he felt like it"

Drunk husband murders wife with an axe in Chaiyaphum

Woman, 50, murdered because man couldn't get an erection and she asked for 500 baht

Mother goes to the military after rape of handicapped daughter now seven months pregnant

 

At least no baby dumped today.

 

Btw. please spare me replies like it happens elsewhere too.

But it does happen elsewhere, just your sort close your eyes and ears to it because it doesn't suit your daily agendas

[Expatthailover]

4 hours ago, colinneil said:

Police probably allowed that to protect the identity of the poor girl.

Good old col.

Well said

[Sealbash]

its only tues and we have a stepdad beats a three yr.old for 2days till she dies,then today an evil bar--ard does this to a three yr.old whose mother died.what kind of society are we living in when this and more goes on every day.
NOBODY CARE'S

How have you come to the conclusion that no one cares........in caps?


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[Sealbash]

its only tues and we have a stepdad beats a three yr.old for 2days till she dies,then today an evil bar--ard does this to a three yr.old whose mother died.what kind of society are we living in when this and more goes on every day.
NOBODY CARE'S

How have you come to the conclusion that no one cares........in caps?


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[Sealbash]

its only tues and we have a stepdad beats a three yr.old for 2days till she dies,then today an evil bar--ard does this to a three yr.old whose mother died.what kind of society are we living in when this and more goes on every day.
NOBODY CARE'S

How have you come to the conclusion that no one cares........in caps?


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[Cancerian]

How sad and has lost her mother on top of it. 

Piece of shit already admitted should just be dissposed of. Maybe let the family have them for a while before being dissposed of

[dunroaming]

5 hours ago, greenchair said:

He is a stepgrandfather so likely to have a different name. If he was a foreigner his name and face would be all over the media. The time has come for sexual abuse in Thailand  to be laid out for all to see. 

Watch the thousands of victims come forward. 

There's a long way to go. 

 

I am afraid it is a part of life in Thailand and it is unlikely it will ever be laid bare.  The vast majority of these crimes go unreported and even when known about stay within the family circle.  Been said a thousand times before but people will hide anything to not lose face.  While you have that as a factor and a culture of secrecy not much will ever change in the land of smoke and mirrors.  Sad indeed! 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, Expatthailover said:

But it does happen elsewhere, just your sort close your eyes and ears to it because it doesn't suit your daily agendas

 

It does indeed happen elsewhere.

 

But, for a country the size of Thailand with its population, it just seems to happen MORE here -- like something from the list of horribles that Lupatria made above seeming to come along almost every day.

 

Just when you think it can't get any worse than it already is, along comes something like this case to remind you that it can and does get worse here, seemingly perpetually. I used to be shocked and surprised, but now it's just kind of expected.

 

[siamcrut]

Hang him on the next tree, simple.

[brling]

2 hours ago, Expatthailover said:

But it does happen elsewhere, just your sort close your eyes and ears to it because it doesn't suit your daily agendas

Only 1 Thai apologist on this thread and no surprise its you.

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, Get Real said:

It should be illegal for him to hide his identity. A man like this have no rights. The lowest kind of scum ever been born on this planet. The punishment should be to slowly cut som essential body parts of him and release him from his disgusting behaviour.

 

 

have you never seen a "birka"  before??

[Henrik Andersen]

6 hours ago, shady86 said:

Competing with India?

Stupid comment this is a serious crime and this scumbag damage the little girl for life he deserves be in jail for the rest of his life 

[Artisi]

6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Scum.

A definite understatement... 

[Artisi]

13 minutes ago, Henrik Andersen said:

Stupid comment this is a serious crime and this scumbag damage the little girl for life he deserves be in jail for the rest of his life 

He need to be immediately removed from the oxygen supply. 

[Artisi]

3 hours ago, Expatthailover said:

But it does happen elsewhere, just your sort close your eyes and ears to it because it doesn't suit your daily agendas

Think you missed the point of the comment. The poster is more than likely fully aware of the fact and can't be bothered with stupid replies of "it happens everywhere" a bit like preaching to the converted. 

[KittenKong]

He admitted guilt.

Many people admit to things in Thailand, and not always voluntarily. Either way it makes no difference as I mentioned. People are innocent until found guilty in a court of law, regardless of what they may or may not admit to.

[lvr181]

Put him in jail for the rest of his miserable life AND make sure the other prisoners know what he did!

[pearciderman]

9 hours ago, Get Real said:

It should be illegal for him to hide his identity. A man like this have no rights. The lowest kind of scum ever been born on this planet. The punishment should be to slowly cut som essential body parts of him and release him from his disgusting behaviour.

 

Has he been found guilty of anything yet in a court of law? A confession can be withdrawn or proved impossible.

 

So maybe being able to hide his identity,(as you can in the west) is actually a step forward in the legal system.

 

 

[pearciderman]

2 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

 

have you never seen a "birka"  before??

 

No, but I have seen a Burqa.

[atyclb]

7 minutes ago, pearciderman said:

 

No, but I have seen a Burqa.

 

8 minutes ago, pearciderman said:

2 hours ago, atyclb said:

 

have you never seen a "birka"  before??

 

No, but I have seen a Burqa.

 

 

cool. i heard the word but never read or spelled it before. now i see spell check was ok since birka is a city

[Prairieboy]

There is no punishment severe enough for people like this!

[Artisi]

23 minutes ago, Prairieboy said:

There is no punishment severe enough for people like this!

The forfeit of your life is fairly severe.

[InfinityandBeyond]

9 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Quite right too. Your uncle leapt to a totally erroneous conclusion and acted like a simple thug.

Violence is only permissible in self-defence, or in the immediate defence of others. Vigilantism is not acceptable in any civilised society. There are laws and police for that.

"...in any civilised society." 

Herein lies the Achilles heel to your argument and circular reasoning.

 

I agree, vigilantism demonstrates that a society is not civilised and lacks rule of law and order. And one (or an entire society for that matter) sinks to the lowest common denominator. I.e. they are no better than the original perpetrator.  

 

In addition, your statement that, "There are laws and police for that" says to me that you are not being realistic about the country you live in or are posting about. There are laws and police in Thailand. I will not argue that. But the extent to which the police selectively enforce the laws is debatable. 

 

Therefore, your argument is basically thus: in a civilised society with police and laws (that are properly enforced) vigilantism is abhorrent and unnecesesary and only serves to destroy law and order. I think no one would disagree. I certainly don't. 

 

Finally, going back to your statement "...in any civilised society" makes any argument against vigilantism moot if you are speaking about Thailand.  

 

Sadly, it is the law of the jungle that rules the day here. And I do not disagree with you about vigilantism if we were playing on home turf. 

 

But the rules if the game are significantly different here and we are playing as visitors on someone else's home ground. 

 

To illustrate my point I will provide 2 relevant amd personal examples (and I will be as short as possible and spare the sordid details):

 

1) Our neighbour recently quit her job to be home with her physically and mentally handicapped daughter. Why? The daughter just reached puberty. And the mother does not trust the unemployed, unsavoury, cock-fighting, gambling, lao khao creeps that live next door and are related (as illustrated by today's sad news). 

 

2) Another neighbour was having an incestuous relationship with his 14 yr old daughter, so Yai (grandma) called a "trusted" uncle to take her in. Where she was abused further. The young girl then went to stay with the village head man until the cops showed up in the a.m. Last I heard, the poor girl is back with dad helping him in another province on a construction worksite with dad's new wife. 

 

We are not in Kansas anymore, Toto. There is some freaky stuff that goes on here and it seems nothing is done about it.  And it is heartbreaking at times. That is why I believe there are so many calls for vigilantism by foreigners on this forum in cases like this. Posters feel frustrated by the feeble and corrupt law enforcement and (in)justice system here and the attitude of the perps (i.e. acting as if it is only wrong if caught). 

The posters IMHO are not rallying a lynch mob. Just vocalizing their outrage at the seemingly complete lawlessness and lack of what some would consider basic social mores. 

 

Sorry to all for long post.