Muslim leaders call for international protection force for Palestinians

[rooster59]

Muslim leaders call for international protection force for Palestinians

By Ali Kucukgocmen and Tulay Karadeniz

 

Leaders and representatives of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) member states pose for a group photo during an extraordinary meeting in Istanbul, Turkey May 18, 2018. Kayhan Ozer/Presidential Palace/Handout via REUTERS

 

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - Muslim leaders called on Friday for an international force to be deployed to protect Palestinians after dozens of protesters were shot dead by Israeli forces on the Gaza border this week.

 

At a special summit in Turkey convened by President Tayyip Erdogan, they also pledged to take "appropriate political (and) economic measures" against countries that followed the United States in moving their Israel embassies to contested Jerusalem from Tel Aviv.

 

Erdogan, who is campaigning for re-election next month, used the summit to verbally attack Israel, comparing the actions of its forces to Nazi Germany's treatment of Jews in World War Two, when millions were killed in concentration camps.

 

He also castigated the United States, saying its decision to move its embassy had emboldened Israel to put down the protests at the border with Gaza with excessive force. Most countries say the status of Jerusalem - a sacred city to Jews, Muslims and Christians - should be determined in a final peace settlement between Israel and Palestinians and that moving their embassies now would prejudge any such deal.

 

U.S. President Donald Trump's step to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital and move the embassy there reversed decades of U.S. policy, upsetting the Arab world and Western allies.

 

Guatemala this week became the second country to move its embassy to Jerusalem, and Paraguay said it would follow suit this month.

 

The final declaration of the meeting of the 57-member Organisation of Islamic Cooperation described the killing of 60 Palestinians, protesting the embassy move on Monday, as "savage crimes committed by the Israeli forces with the backing of the U.S. administration".

 

It said the violence should be put on the agenda of the U.N. Security Council and General Assembly, and called on the United Nations to investigate the killings.

 

The summit was attended by Jordan's King Abdullah, a U.S. ally whose Hashemite dynasty is custodian of Muslim sites in Jerusalem.

 

Abdullah said the U.S. decision five months ago to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital had "weakened the pillars of peace ... and deepened the despair that leads to violence."

 

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani called on Muslim countries "to totally cut their relations with the Zionist regime (Israel) and also to revise their trade and economic ties with America".

 

A populist with roots in political Islam, Erdogan has described Israel as "terrorist state".

 

"The children of those being subject to all sorts of torture in concentration camps during World War Two are now attacking Palestinians with methods that would put Nazis to shame," Erdogan said on Friday shortly after addressing a rally of thousands of people in support of Palestinians.

 

The United Nations must send "an international peace force to the people of Palestine, who are losing their young children to Israeli terror every day," Erdogan said, comparing the proposed deployment to peacekeeping forces sent to Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990s.

 

The violence in Gaza led to Turkey and Israel expelling each other's senior diplomats this week. Erdogan has also traded barbs on Twitter with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

 

Israel, however, was the 10th-largest market for Turkish exports in 2017, buying some $3.4 billion of goods, according to IMF statistics.

 

"We have excellent economic ties with Turkey. And these relations are very important for both sides," Israeli Finance Minister Moshe Kahlon told Israel Radio on Friday when asked if Israel should break ties with Turkey.

 

The plight of Palestinians resonates with many Turks, particularly the nationalist and religious voters who form the base of support for Erdogan, who has been in power for 15 years.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-05-19

[Kiwiken]

I would support an international Force providing both sides would halt armed confrontations. The problems are complex not simply Jew versus Muslim.

The United States cannot be part of such a Force as 70 years have proved its absolute bias for Israel.

The World Body needs to discuss and find ways for settlement of the Israel / Palestinian issue.

The existence of Israel is a fact and cannot be reversed. However the existence of a Palestinian People disenfranchised from their homeland is also a fact.

The Palestinians have a much right to a Capital in Jerusalem as the Israelis.

The solution to the Palestinian state alongside Israel cannot be solved without some involvement in Settlements with Egypt.

The original partition was supposed to be 66% Arab 34% Jewish but history has reversed that partition.

Time for serious discussion and not just a World siding with One side or the Other

[arithai12]

There is already an international force, it's called United Nations. Unfortunately, it is not allowed to work by a ridiculous veto system.

[Tchooptip]

It's touching to see this nice picture all those honest heads of state of some of the most democratic countries in the world, these countries they all of them lead with so much concern about the individual freedom of their respective peoples

[goldenbrwn1]

Maybe they should join forces and attack Israel???    I think that worked out well for them the last time...........?

Edited May 19, 2018 by goldenbrwn1

[Kiwiken]

3 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

Maybe they should join forces and attack Israel???    I think that worked out well for them the last time...........?

And when did war solve anything. One side wins or one side loses . For all there is just death and misery.

[buick]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Most countries say the status of Jerusalem - a sacred city to Jews, Muslims and Christians - should be determined in a final peace settlement between Israel and Palestinians and that moving their embassies now would prejudge any such deal.

i would suggest the status of jerusalem has already been decided but those on the losing end can't accept what has happened.  some countries/leaders are nice enough to not rub it in the losers face but that isn't helping much.  do the palestinians have a single card left to play in this game ?

[goldenbrwn1]

5 minutes ago, Kiwiken said:

 

Yes and the Western Countries have never colonised or marginalised these people. The British started the forced deportation and murder of the Palestinian people. The US and Israel continue it. Having been dispossessed, Ghettoised and then subject brutality does not give the Jewish People of Israel actively supported by the USA the right to carry out the same despotic actions.

Ignore the truth of History and repeat the lesson.

Arab states declared war against a UN-backed Israel in 1948, and lost. Jordan and Egypt then took control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip respectively. Why didn’t they grant Palestinians citizenship then, or declare a Palestinian state for Palestinians when they had control? Instead they declared war against Israel in 1967, and again in 1973, trying again to take the UN-backed state from Israel.They lost, every single time, and Israel then took the West bank and Gaza instead to protect Israel from further attacks. 

 

I feel for the Palestinians I really do but these Muslim states have never historically proved to be their friends iether.

[simple1]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

It said the violence should be put on the agenda of the U.N. Security Council and General Assembly, and called on the United Nations to investigate the killings.

UNSC will not authorise due to the polarised veto system. However, UN Human Rights Commission is going ahead with an investigation, a decision already decried by Israel. Human Rights / War Crimes matters are so heavily polarised along political lines, currently doesn't appear there is any body tasked with investigations who are treated with respect by all parties.

[kannot]

I  call for protection against fantasy friends  worldwide........

[Baerboxer]

28 minutes ago, Kiwiken said:

 

Yes and the Western Countries have never colonised or marginalised these people. The British started the forced deportation and murder of the Palestinian people. The US and Israel continue it. Having been dispossessed, Ghettoised and then subject brutality does not give the Jewish People of Israel actively supported by the USA the right to carry out the same despotic actions.

Ignore the truth of History and repeat the lesson.

[Baerboxer]

Pity there wasn't an International Protection Force to protect the Armenians who suffered a wicked genocide. Starved, forced marches and women crucified naked. And no there to protect them.

 

Remind us Erdogan, which <deleted> did this act?

[JimmyTheMook]

How about them little Syrian Muzzie kids sucking in chemical gas?

Can Allah protect them?

[Xonax]

Why protect the agressors?

 

[RickBradford]

The proposal seems fair.

 

Import, say, 100 homeless waifs under the age of 10 from each of 50 countries and let them form a square, inside which the brave fighters of Hamas can sit and fire rockets into Israel. 

 

Give the Palestinian kids a break from human shield duty.

[Kiwiken]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Pity there wasn't an International Protection Force to protect the Armenians who suffered a wicked genocide. Starved, forced marches and women crucified naked. And no there to protect them.

 

Remind us Erdogan, which <deleted> did this act?

1918 compared to 1948 same crimes but some say old history. WW2 started in Europe 79 years ago but the two main Protagonists are still made to apologise whereas everyone elses crimes are ignored

[Kiwiken]

2 hours ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

Arab states declared war against a UN-backed Israel in 1948, and lost. Jordan and Egypt then took control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip respectively. Why didn’t they grant Palestinians citizenship then, or declare a Palestinian state for Palestinians when they had control? Instead they declared war against Israel in 1967, and again in 1973, trying again to take the UN-backed state from Israel.They lost, every single time, and Israel then took the West bank and Gaza instead to protect Israel from further attacks. 

 

I feel for the Palestinians I really do but these Muslim states have never historically proved to be their friends iether.

Because as you point out the other Arab states put their Political agendas ahead of their Palestinian Brothers. The palestinians have been betrayed by all sides. The US , Israel plan has always been to just push them out of all previous Palestine borders. And for greter Israel to be the preeminent power in the Middle east

[Scouse123]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

can you also call for a protection force throughout the rest of the world against muslims who are killing, raping children, bombing civilians, and murdering none muslims on every corner of the globe

 

Oh and Western Values are destroying islam which is what your clerics are preaching in the UK EU and throughout the world - integration 101...………..really ?, we live by laws in the west not by islam, if you don't like it then (deleted) off back to whatever shit hole you destroyed and left, oh yes that's right I forgot you can't even get on with each other

 

 

Well said smedly. Well said.

 

 

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Well said smedly. Well said.

No. Completely Off Topic rant

Edited May 19, 2018 by simple1

[Scouse123]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Not, completely Off Topic rant

 

Always seems to be off topic or a rant when the behavior of Muslims around the world and their acts are called into question or comparison?

 

Having their cake and eating it as usual.

[simple1]

56 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

What is the point in producing a 3,000-year-old map to justify Israeli expansion?

Thus re-confirming your shortfall with comprehension / context. bye...

Edited May 19, 2018 by simple1

[Morch]

6 hours ago, simple1 said:

UNSC will not authorise due to the polarised veto system. However, UN Human Rights Commission is going ahead with an investigation, a decision already decried by Israel. Human Rights / War Crimes matters are so heavily polarised along political lines, currently doesn't appear there is any body tasked with investigations who are treated with respect by all parties.

 

Doesn't help much when many a UNHRC members casting their votes on this aren't all that human rights focused themselves (putting it very very mildly).

[Morch]

8 hours ago, arithai12 said:

There is already an international force, it's called United Nations. Unfortunately, it is not allowed to work by a ridiculous veto system.

 

There is no "international force". Interventions by the UN are based on member countries providing troops. Additionally, peacekeeping missions usually require some sort agreement and assurances from all parties. Judging from UN troops performance on such missions at Southern Lebanon or the Golan Heights, can't say it's been stellar or effective - especially not when things hit the fan.

[rosst]

8 hours ago, Tchooptip said:

It's touching to see this nice picture all those honest heads of state of some of the most democratic countries in the world, these countries they all of them lead with so much concern about the individual freedom of their respective peoples

The main job would be to protect the Palestinians from themselves. 

[Kasset Tak]

8 hours ago, buick said:

i would suggest the status of jerusalem has already been decided but those on the losing end can't accept what has happened.  some countries/leaders are nice enough to not rub it in the losers face but that isn't helping much.  do the palestinians have a single card left to play in this game ?

Eastern Jerusalem was part of what would be Palestine until Israel annexed it siting such things as security. This was OK by US(and there by NATO...) but when Russia annexed Crimea... siting the security of the ethical Russian majority in the area... that is not OK...
We who are from the western world need to see that if our allies like Israel is allowed to do one thing, then we can not blame Russia and China for doing the same thing!
Whats goes around comes around!!!

[Morch]

3 minutes ago, Kasset Tak said:

Eastern Jerusalem was part of what would be Palestine until Israel annexed it siting such things as security. This was OK by US(and there by NATO...) but when Russia annexed Crimea... siting the security of the ethical Russian majority in the area... that is not OK...
We who are from the western world need to see that if our allies like Israel is allowed to do one thing, then we can not blame Russia and China for doing the same thing!
Whats goes around comes around!!!

 

At the time it was conquered by Israel (1967), East Jerusalem (and the West Bank) were already annexed by Jordan. Israel's reasons for its subsequent annexation had more to do with historical and national arguments, less to do with security.

 

The move was never officially OK by the US (hence the issue with Trump's relocation of the Embassy). And, of course, NATO doesn't have anything to do with it - "there by" notwithstanding. Topic isn't about either Russia, nor Crimea - and the arguments cited aren't similar.

[Scott]

Posts and replies removed. 

[Morch]

6 hours ago, Kiwiken said:

Because as you point out the other Arab states put their Political agendas ahead of their Palestinian Brothers. The palestinians have been betrayed by all sides. The US , Israel plan has always been to just push them out of all previous Palestine borders. And for greter Israel to be the preeminent power in the Middle east

 

If the Palestinians were "betrayed", then most of all, they were betrayed by their own inept leaders. They still are. I doubt that there was such a US-Israeli plan, and further, that "always" applies. The US support of Israel was a later development. The nonsense about "greater Israel" is conspiracy theory stuff.

[Kiwiken]

52 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

If the Palestinians were "betrayed", then most of all, they were betrayed by their own inept leaders. They still are. I doubt that there was such a US-Israeli plan, and further, that "always" applies. The US support of Israel was a later development. The nonsense about "greater Israel" is conspiracy theory stuff.

The US support for Israel was 1947 on when the British went cold on the idea of splitting Palestine. I like your habit of deflecting others opinions. It wasn't a later thing. Zionists always had lots of US support

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, Kiwiken said:

The US support for Israel was 1947 on when the British went cold on the idea of splitting Palestine. I like your habit of deflecting others opinions. It wasn't a later thing. Zionists always had lots of US support

 

The US had it's own turn at cold feet near the last minute. And it did participate in the arms embargo back then. While Truman was supportive, both Defense and State Departments weren't. The US's UN team almost resigned following Truman's recognition of Israel.

 

The notion that there was an Israel/US "plan" such as you alluded to, and that "always" existed is bizarre. Early on, the US tried to keep a balanced position, with an emphasis on fostering and maintaining relations with Arab countries (that oil...). Eisenhower's administration wasn't overly supportive of Israel, and US pressure made Israel (and European partners) withdraw in 1956. US involvement with Israel became significant only later on, say from Johnson's term in office and onward.

 

Not that any of this got much to do with the OP....