Exercise Bikes

[Justfine]

I see a lot of 2nd hand bikes for sale online. Some saying used only 5 times.

 

Must get boring real quick.

 

 

[Kadilo]

I’m after one. Where’s the best place to look online where they can be delivered?


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[scubascuba3]

Cycling indoors is ultra boring. Buy a bike and get out there

[robblok]

31 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

I’m after one. Where’s the best place to look online where they can be delivered?


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The Assault Bike 

 

Eastwest fitness  

 

But only buy it if you really want it as its expensive. It is rated real good. A friend of mine has one I have used it but it is best used for interval training. 

[robblok]

Most people expect miracles from exercise and give up far too fast. Not everyone can train alone, most are better off going to a gym.

[evadgib]

I type this reply after 30 mins on my elliptical machine (exercise bike without a seat) and several minutes 'break-dancing' on a yoga mat. My wife is doing same. 

 

At near 60 and still heavier than the manufacturers max weight I must look ridiculous but I have had it for 3 years and find it superb for keeping the heart and lungs in good shape.  It overlooks the street and is next to my computer desk and fan therefore I have something to look at, something to listen to, a refreshing breeze, and can get off when I have had enough. I shifted 14kg quite easily but am hoping to double that in due course.

 

I hope this proves useful to the board.

[robblok]

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

I type this reply after 30 mins on my elliptical machine (exercise bike without a seat) and several minutes 'break-dancing' on a yoga mat. My wife is doing same. 

 

At near 60 and still heavier than the manufacturers max weight I must look ridiculous but I have had it for 3 years and find it superb for keeping the heart and lungs in good shape.  It overlooks the street and is next to my computer desk and fan therefore I have something to look at, something to listen to, a refreshing breeze, and can get off when I have had enough. I shifted 14kg quite easily but am hoping to double that in due course.

 

I hope this proves useful to the board.

Of course its useful, this part of the forum could use more contributors. I got an elliptical and a rower they both get used but not as much as they should. I use my weights more but still they get used. 

 

Its smart to set your machine up near a computer or TV screen so you have some distraction. I also have multiple fans and an aircon in my gym room. 

 

I know exercise is not really good for weight loss but it aids in weight loss not only by the calories burned but also (for me at last) making you more aware of what you eat. Though some people go exercise and after that straight to the Mc Donalds that would be counter productive. 

 

I think best way to lose weight is to clean up your diet in a sustainable way and exercise. 

 

The best exercise is the exercise you keep doing, seems you found one.

[evadgib]

Thanks Rob, I also enjoy hill walking with trekking poles when time allows. It's exactly the same motion but I actually get somewhere! ?

Edited May 22, 2018 by evadgib

[GarryP]

Used to have an upright exercise bike but after a number of repairs it gave up the ghost. Also got a second hand spinning bike from Rob but never really used it. Now I use a rowing machine, which exercises a much larger number of muscles than the bike. I do not have any distractions though, no TV, no computer screen. Just a wall with a clock on it. No big deal. I compete with myself and feel better physically, which makes me feel better mentally. That is the only incentive I need to keep at it.  

[robblok]

2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Thanks Rob, I also enjoy hill walking with trekking poles when time allows. It's exactly the same motion but I actually get somewhere! ?

The problem with sports like that is that it usually requires you to travel quite far to get there so for regular exercise its a bit hard. I like diving (hard to do from BKK).

 

Nowadays I just pick up a few heavy weights and walk rounds in the park for my cardio (that is why the rower and elliptical are used less now).

 

My idea's about exercise have changed over the years, before I would look for what burns the most. Now I look for stuff I don't hate and will keep doing. Consistency rules over going fast and then giving up.

 

Whatever people are doing its always better than nothing. 

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Used to have an upright exercise bike but after a number of repairs it gave up the ghost. Also got a second hand spinning bike from Rob but never really used it. Now I use a rowing machine, which exercises a much larger number of muscles than the bike. I do not have any distractions though, no TV, no computer screen. Just a wall with a clock on it. No big deal. I compete with myself and feel better physically, which makes me feel better mentally. That is the only incentive I need to keep at it.  

Its great you can motivate yourself like that. You do know that for your rower (if you have a laptop) there is a program available for 99$ (once off) that will make you row virtually. It will record your rows and will allow you to row against yourself or a programmed opponent. You can even hook up through the internet and row with other people. 

 

The program is called Row Pro. I had it setup on the laptop and connected the laptop to a big computer screen. It did help me a bit more. The fact is I just don't like cardio and because I am already lifting i sometimes feel i can get away with less cardio. Though when I really want to lose fat I add cardio. 

 

I am far from perfect but the lifting I have done consistently now for 7 years, wish I could say the same about cardio. I have good hope that the walking with weights will be something I will keep doing. I like it more as its a combination of cardio and lifting. Good thing the GF uses the eleptical a lot, the rower I will never sell. 

[GarryP]

5 minutes ago, robblok said:

Its great you can motivate yourself like that. You do know that for your rower (if you have a laptop) there is a program available for 99$ (once off) that will make you row virtually. It will record your rows and will allow you to row against yourself or a programmed opponent. You can even hook up through the internet and row with other people. 

 

The program is called Row Pro. I had it setup on the laptop and connected the laptop to a big computer screen. It did help me a bit more. The fact is I just don't like cardio and because I am already lifting i sometimes feel i can get away with less cardio. Though when I really want to lose fat I add cardio. 

 

I am far from perfect but the lifting I have done consistently now for 7 years, wish I could say the same about cardio. I have good hope that the walking with weights will be something I will keep doing. I like it more as its a combination of cardio and lifting. Good thing the GF uses the eleptical a lot, the rower I will never sell. 

I just use the ErgData app which records my activities and can be synced with the Concept2 data base. I was never really that interested in virtual rowing. At the moment it takes me only a minute to set up each morning and get started. I forgot to mention that I do listen to music while rowing using earphones. 

[Justfine]

Losing weight is 80% diet. With exercise I find 1 day resistance and 2 days cardio is a good mix. Resistance training speeds up your metabolism by approx 7% over 48 hours following exercise. Cardio does help as well but doesn't last as long.

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I just use the ErgData app which records my activities and can be synced with the Concept2 data base. I was never really that interested in virtual rowing. At the moment it takes me only a minute to set up each morning and get started. I forgot to mention that I do listen to music while rowing using earphones. 

Yes music is real important, could not train without music cardio or lifting weights. The setup of the virtual rowing did not take long around 5 minutes. But yes it takes time, i just mentioned it because it might help. 

[Justfine]

20 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Used to have an upright exercise bike but after a number of repairs it gave up the ghost. Also got a second hand spinning bike from Rob but never really used it. Now I use a rowing machine, which exercises a much larger number of muscles than the bike. I do not have any distractions though, no TV, no computer screen. Just a wall with a clock on it. No big deal. I compete with myself and feel better physically, which makes me feel better mentally. That is the only incentive I need to keep at it.  

Agree. 

[tropo]

On 5/22/2018 at 11:15 AM, robblok said:

Most people expect miracles from exercise and give up far too fast. Not everyone can train alone, most are better off going to a gym.

I don't believe that people who can't train well at home can train well at public gyms. People who can train well at public gyms CAN train well at home. If you're not self-motivated, you won't train well anywhere. You can see from a quick trip to any public gym how many train hard. Not many.

 

I'm going to get the Concep2 BikeErg when it arrives in Asia.

[robblok]

16 minutes ago, tropo said:

I don't believe that people who can't train well at home can train well at public gyms. People who can train well at public gyms CAN train well at home. If you're not self-motivated, you won't train well anywhere. You can see from a quick trip to any public gym how many train hard. Not many.

 

I'm going to get the Concep2 BikeErg when it arrives in Asia.

 

 

Its not only about motivation, but most people need some instructions and a program. Before you got a good home gym and know how to use it your a bit more advanced. 

 

Have you looked at the Assault Airbike, a friend of mine bought it (he lives in Pattaya). It looks hardcore. They say you can burn 80 cals a minute on it (but that is  going full out you can't keep that up long). If only I had more space ? 

Edited May 23, 2018 by robblok

[tropo]

On 5/22/2018 at 11:49 AM, robblok said:

Its great you can motivate yourself like that. You do know that for your rower (if you have a laptop) there is a program available for 99$ (once off) that will make you row virtually. It will record your rows and will allow you to row against yourself or a programmed opponent. You can even hook up through the internet and row with other people. 

 

The program is called Row Pro. I had it setup on the laptop and connected the laptop to a big computer screen. It did help me a bit more. The fact is I just don't like cardio and because I am already lifting i sometimes feel i can get away with less cardio. Though when I really want to lose fat I add cardio. 

 

I am far from perfect but the lifting I have done consistently now for 7 years, wish I could say the same about cardio. I have good hope that the walking with weights will be something I will keep doing. I like it more as its a combination of cardio and lifting. Good thing the GF uses the eleptical a lot, the rower I will never sell. 

Don't be too hard on yourself. You rowed consistently for a long time after you bought it. Are you going to farmers walk that long? I don't think you will. I think we both used to overdo it in the beginning. I looked back at the start of the rowing thread you started about 6 years ago... I can't believe how much rowing we were doing back then... then more recently you bought the elliptical. What happened there? I don't think you were into that at all.

[tropo]

11 minutes ago, robblok said:

 

Its not only about motivation, but most people need some instructions and a program. Before you got a good home gym and know how to use it your a bit more advanced. 

 

Have you looked at the Assault Airbike, a friend of mine bought it (he lives in Pattaya). It looks hardcore. They say you can burn 80 cals a minute on it (but that is  going full out you can't keep that up long). If only I had more space ? 

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The good thing about the bike is it doesn't take much space. I'm hooked on Concept2 gear - I'm a big fan and the BikeErg looks like a winner. When I get that I'll be able to do cardio circuits on 3 machines.

Edited May 23, 2018 by tropo

[robblok]

8 minutes ago, tropo said:

Don't be too hard on yourself. You rowed consistently for a long time after you bought it. Are you going to farmers walk that long? I don't think you will. I think we both used to overdo it in the beginning. I looked back at the start of the rowing thread you started about 6 years ago... I can't believe how much rowing we were doing back then... then more recently you bought the elliptical. What happened there? I don't think you were into that at all.

 

 

To be honest i think i will be keep doing the loaded caries, for some reason they really suit me well. I don't know why but its exactly what I like. The elliptical was indeed not a smart purchase (good that the gf uses it). I had bought it because rowing and my hard training just did not combine that well. 

 

Right now I am still losing weight but I am considering adding either the elliptical after the loaded caries or doing rowing sessions separate in weekends if weight loss stalls. The elliptical has as an advantage that i can do it at a lower intensity. I never really got the knack of rowing at lower intensity.  (actually the assault bike would not be a good idea.. i mean it would like the rower also put strain on my other muscles)

Edited May 23, 2018 by robblok

[tropo]

6 minutes ago, robblok said:

 To be honest i think i will be keep doing the loaded caries, for some reason they really suit me well. I don't know why but its exactly what I like. The elliptical was indeed not a smart purchase (good that the gf uses it). I had bought it because rowing and my hard training just did not combine that well. 

 

Right now I am still losing weight but I am considering adding either the elliptical after the loaded caries or doing rowing sessions separate in weekends if weight loss stalls. The elliptical has as an advantage that i can do it at a lower intensity. I never really got the knack of rowing at lower intensity.  (actually the assault bike would not be a good idea.. i mean it would like the rower also put strain on my other muscles)

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The SkiErg could actually be exactly what you need. It's almost all upper body, so your back and legs get a good break, yet I feel it's harder than rowing in terms of perceived effort for calories burned.

Edited May 23, 2018 by tropo

[robblok]

You know what my problem probably is... i always make my cardio too long and too often because I want to burn calories. But maybe doing something like the elliptical or even rower .. or if i had it ski erg for 10 minutes after a workout would add up too. I just don't want to make my workouts too long making me dread them.

[tropo]

Just now, robblok said:

You know what my problem probably is... i always make my cardio too long and too often because I want to burn calories. But maybe doing something like the elliptical or even rower .. or if i had it ski erg for 10 minutes after a workout would add up too. I just don't want to make my workouts too long making me dread them.

I've had the SkiErg since August 19 and I still love it. I'm at about 650,000m in total now. Like anything, my time on it is a lot lower than it was 10 months ago as I've slowly decreased my time on it. Most of my sessions on it and the rower average about 10 - 15 minutes these days. I just don't like long sessions on any machine.

 

I think your extreme calorie burning you're doing now is a good idea. I remember doing that in 2012 and hitting it ridiculously hard. I really got my body fat percentages low then too. You don't want to keep slow burning them and never reaching your goal. Get there and adjust when you've achieved what you want to achieve. I know I harped on about frequency last week, but I know that if I reduce my frequency too much and take too many days off I get lazy, so it's hard to balance perfectly. I'm in a lazy phase right now, but it's mainly because my knees are hurting and it demotivates me. Training every day certainly keeps you wired and on the pulse. I've done that before too, but never the same routine every day.

[Justfine]

On 5/24/2018 at 12:12 AM, tropo said:

I don't believe that people who can't train well at home can train well at public gyms. People who can train well at public gyms CAN train well at home. If you're not self-motivated, you won't train well anywhere. You can see from a quick trip to any public gym how many train hard. Not many.

 

I'm going to get the Concep2 BikeErg when it arrives in Asia.

I would agree with that but I think diet comes first. A good diet fuels the body and makes you want to exercise. 

 

A poor diet reduces mood and energy levels go up and down quickly and people lose motivation.

 

So no 1 improve the diet.

No 2 learn about different exercises.

No 3 work out an exercise plan

No 4 do it.

[Justfine]

On 5/24/2018 at 12:25 AM, robblok said:

 

 

To be honest i think i will be keep doing the loaded caries, for some reason they really suit me well. I don't know why but its exactly what I like. The elliptical was indeed not a smart purchase (good that the gf uses it). I had bought it because rowing and my hard training just did not combine that well. 

 

Right now I am still losing weight but I am considering adding either the elliptical after the loaded caries or doing rowing sessions separate in weekends if weight loss stalls. The elliptical has as an advantage that i can do it at a lower intensity. I never really got the knack of rowing at lower intensity.  (actually the assault bike would not be a good idea.. i mean it would like the rower also put strain on my other muscles)

I would split loaded carries with rowing. Row 3 days a week and loaded carries 4 days a week.

 

Focusing on 1 a day lets you train harder.

 

Doing both in 1 day compromises both.

[robblok]

5 hours ago, Justfine said:

I would split loaded carries with rowing. Row 3 days a week and loaded carries 4 days a week.

 

Focusing on 1 a day lets you train harder.

 

Doing both in 1 day compromises both.

I train twice a day, not in session that would really compromise it that is for sure. 

[Will27]

I used to love and get out for long bike rides but the increase in dog attacks

just made me lose all enjoyment.

 

I purchased a bike trainer and hooked my Trek up with it.

Just have sessions now with some music blaring.

 

It's no where near as enjoyable as the bike rides but it's better

than doing nothing I guess.

 

[tropo]

9 hours ago, Justfine said:

I would agree with that but I think diet comes first. A good diet fuels the body and makes you want to exercise. 

 

A poor diet reduces mood and energy levels go up and down quickly and people lose motivation.

 

So no 1 improve the diet.

No 2 learn about different exercises.

No 3 work out an exercise plan

No 4 do it.

Many things can reduce energy and mood to train. At my age, I often don't feel like training, often for reasons I can't always pinpoint. Could be food or one of many reasons that cause energy drops. A lousy sleep or a short sleep really affect mood and energy in the gym. Injuries are a real enthusiasm sponge. Try training legs with arthritis - that's never fun and can be a real downer. Even youngster Robblok uses caffeine to get him going in the morning. That's also not healthy as it's an artificial stimulant. A cup of coffee is as far as I go, but coffee has really lost its effect on me as I drink quite a bit.

 

Motivation keeps me going - not mood or desire. To be honest, I never feel like training and often train when I don't feel the energy to do so. #2 and #3 don't help... it's all about #4 - just do it!... then there's the boredom of doing the same sh*t over and over again for over 40 years - it gets damn boring no matter how much you change it up and for me nearly every single workout is different in some way.

 

 

[robblok]

9 minutes ago, tropo said:

Many things can reduce energy and mood to train. At my age, I often don't feel like training, often for reasons I can't always pinpoint. Could be food or one of many reasons that cause energy drops. A lousy sleep or a short sleep really affect mood and energy in the gym. Injuries are a real enthusiasm sponge. Try training legs with arthritis - that's never fun and can be a real downer. Even youngster Robblok uses caffeine to get him going in the morning. That's also not healthy as it's an artificial stimulant. A cup of coffee is as far as I go, but coffee has really lost its effect on me as I drink quite a bit.

 

Motivation keeps me going - not mood or desire. To be honest, I never feel like training and often train when I don't feel the energy to do so. #2 and #3 don't help... it's all about #4 - just do it!... then there's the boredom of doing the same sh*t over and over again for over 40 years - it gets damn boring no matter how much you change it up and for me nearly every single workout is different in some way.

 

 

Thank you old wise one to call me a youngster, caffeine tablets are just the only way for me to take caffeine as i can't drink coffee. I just dont like it. 

 

Sleep is for me the most important reason for a good or a bad training day, but I have always been a fuzzy sleeper and it got worse with age. I am trying to pinpoint the problems and some improvement is happening.

 

I read somewhere that you just have to workout even if you feel like shit (ok within limits) because its the accumulation of all those training days that give the results.. not just your best days. I used to skip sessions if I had a bad day, now I just grind through it maybe use a lighter weight.  

 

Your right alll exercise comes down to the same thing and changing it up helps a bit, but for me motivation comes from results. Now as I have admitted before I don't see much gains in strength anymore (some on exercises i neglected in the past) but exercises like bench press that i did since I was 16... no such luck. 

 

But now my motivation comes from losing fat... that is why i hate it if there is a plateau. But i just keep on going like i have always done, i read a lot on fitness boards but have come to realize there are no magic exercises or routines ect. Your limited by your genetics and how much effort you put in your training and your diet (of course on a caloric deficit you will never gain much muscle if not using juice and even then its hard). 

 

I have some hope for reverse dieting something i will try after i lose my weight. The fun thing is (actually not fun), the more you lose the more you realize your targets were off. Sure I am now leaner as before.. but still not as lean as what i dream about. I had expected to be that lean if i lost an other 3 kg... now I am not so sure.. it might be 5 or 7 kg (if I can ever get there). What I am talking about are sculped obliques the ones  you see on fitness models. But I believe these guys are sub 10% plus lucky where they hold the fat.

[Justfine]

Diet is helping me right now. I want to train everyday and have to hold myself back. 

 

How can u not like coffee? Buy some good stuff.