webfact Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 German motorcyclist injured as ten power poles fall down in Samut Songkhram Picture: Channel 3 A German motorcyclist suffered a fractured collarbone after ten power poles fell on a seaside road in Samut Songkhram about six kilometers from Rama 2 road. Fifty two year old Thomas Johannes Reineri was travelling from Pattaya to Hua Hin on his bike when the poles on the Klong Khon to Yee Sarn Road came crashing down in high winds. Two pick-up trucks travelling behind him were also damaged. Mr Reineri was admitted to Somdej Phraphuttalertla Samut Songkhram Hospital. . The road is a popular short-cut leading to Ban Laem and Cha-Am districts. Power outages were experienced across a wide area of Yee Sarn. The mess was cleared up and power restored later Tuesday, reported Channel 3. Source: Channel 3 -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-05-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Surprised this didn't pull down every pole in the country? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NCC1701A Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) " Fifty two year old Thomas Johannes Reineri was travelling from Pattaya to Hua Hin..." and he thought his cover story of going to Kanchanaburi was going to work. but seriously lets hope he was not too badly injured. I have made that run on my motorcycle a few times. one more thing to worry about in this Mad Max country. Edited May 30, 2018 by NCC1701A 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 once again we see the "expert" thai methods of putting up power poles without the proper depth being used per the height/load factor or being concreted in place, Suppose the profits for not doing so out weigh the accidents when they come down because of it 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 33 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: Surprised this didn't pull down every pole in the country? I think it did. There are only 47 power poles in the entire country - judging by the way the cables droop everywhere nationwide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, seajae said: once again we see the "expert" thai methods of putting up power poles without the proper depth being used per the height/load factor or being concreted in place, Suppose the profits for not doing so out weigh the accidents when they come down because of it I'd suggest it's the 'usual lack of education' too. I've asked PEA staff in the past how they knew if there might be additional stress on the pole if the cables were pulling at an angle? They said all they were ever told was to install the pole by putting it in the ground - end of story. When I worked for British Telecom the PEU (Pole Erection Unit) staff had to know how to calculate the "pull-on-pole" as it was referred to, in order to avoid unbalanced stress. If it was deemed to be above normal, a wire stay was fitted from the top of the pole, at an angle into the ground, to counteract the "pull" in the opposite direction. This is telecoms cable we're talking about - a lot, lot lighter than the heavier mains distribution cables. Edited May 30, 2018 by bluesofa 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, seajae said: once again we see the "expert" thai methods of putting up power poles without the proper depth being used per the height/load factor or being concreted in place, Suppose the profits for not doing so out weigh the accidents when they come down because of it They don´t pay for accidents! Not their fault. Here is the only factor to take into consideration, that some people just have to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Looks like the German did not do the correct risk assessment before traveling always factor in falling objects. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 They are building a new Dual Carriageway nearby and i have been watching the workers and having a laugh with some of them every few days. This morning they were fitting Lamp Standards into the ground, they are high and pretty heavy beasts as this is a main Highway. They are just digging holes with a machine in sandy like soil about no more than half a metre deep, craning the poles in and walloping cement in with no infrastructure. They are then 'propped' to dry with old lumps of wood or whatever is around and i thought that this is surely not a strong enough fixing, so i asked two of the gang if they thought it would be strong enough for high winds or if the got hit by a vehicle. ''We just put pole in hole, not told to do any more'' was the reply i got. Whenever i ask Thai workers about anything i always get a response along the lines of ''We are not allowed to think or do anything other than what we are told to do''. Obvious Clones of the system they are 'educated' and brought up by ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lupatria Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 ...and they didn't find a way to blame the German (yet)? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Surprised this didn't pull down every pole in the country? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 The ones round here are all cockeyed often at incredible angles, only the one on my land is straight and concreted in which they were reluctant to do so i did it myself, entombed in an 90cm block of concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 8 hours ago, bluesofa said: I'd suggest it's the 'usual lack of education' too. I've asked PEA staff in the past how they knew if there might be additional stress on the pole if the cables were pulling at an angle? They said all they were ever told was to install the pole by putting it in the ground - end of story. When I worked for British Telecom the PEU (Pole Erection Unit) staff had to know how to calculate the "pull-on-pole" as it was referred to, in order to avoid unbalanced stress. If it was deemed to be above normal, a wire stay was fitted from the top of the pole, at an angle into the ground, to counteract the "pull" in the opposite direction. This is telecoms cable we're talking about - a lot, lot lighter than the heavier mains distribution cables. They Don't get Paid to Think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 7 minutes ago, digger70 said: They Don't get Paid to Think. True, they don't want to be caught thinking for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave67 Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Soon to be known by his German mates as Volter Edited May 30, 2018 by Dave67 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Dave67 said: Soon to know by his German mates as Volter Ouch! That hertz. You'll get charged for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave67 Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, bluesofa said: Ouch! That hertz. You'll get charged for that. Go ohm if you don't like it 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mehrdad Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Actually electricity price is expensive in thailand but i dont know why PEA not do anything with correct install of wires ! Shame on PEA Edited May 30, 2018 by mehrdad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dave67 said: Go ohm if you don't like it I think I will, resistance is useless. Just don't conduct yourself like that, watts wrong with you? edit: I was going to do some vegetable gardening, but found I had a small leek to earth. Edited May 30, 2018 by bluesofa 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, bluesofa said: I think I will, resistance is useless. Just don't conduct yourself like that, watts wrong with you? edit: I was going to do some vegetable gardening, but found I had a small leek to earth. You haven't met my Mum have you, would you like to meter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Dave67 said: You haven't met my Mum have you, would you like to meter You're trying to confuse me big time now. It feels like a full scale deflection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Who will pay the hospital for this really unlucky young German man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemaker Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, kannot said: The ones round here are all cockeyed often at incredible angles, only the one on my land is straight and concreted in which they were reluctant to do so i did it myself, entombed in an 90cm block of concrete. Are you from Norwich ? ? Edited May 30, 2018 by Acemaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 11 hours ago, trainman34014 said: They are building a new Dual Carriageway nearby and i have been watching the workers and having a laugh with some of them every few days. ....................................... Although its the workers job to do what they are told by their bosses . Its the architect/planners job to consider the stability of the poles and to plan the depth of the holes , nothing to do with the workers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 11 hours ago, trainman34014 said: They are building a new Dual Carriageway nearby and i have been watching the workers and having a laugh with some of them every few days. ....................................... Although its the workers job to do what they are told by their bosses . Its the architect/planners job to consider the stability of the poles and to plan the depth of the holes , nothing to do with the workers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasin1 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Tchooptip said: Who will pay the hospital for this really unlucky young German man? Its obviously all his fault, he will need to recompense the power company, the 2 pick-ups and whilst he's at it, the news publishing costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, bluesofa said: I think I will, resistance is useless. Just don't conduct yourself like that, watts wrong with you? edit: I was going to do some vegetable gardening, but found I had a small leek to earth. Join the resistance at Watt Mahashok. Seriously, though, I hope the gentleman comes out of this OK. Third-world electric systems ... Edited May 30, 2018 by Damrongsak 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meechai Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 When we lived in a nanny state we noticed they were always with their rules,rules,rules.. Bury power poles "X" deep Use Guy-Wires at "X" Angle yada,yada,yada Darn Nanny States ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhood Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 It would be necessary in Thailand to make all companies and private people to make them responsible for damaging; they all should have to pay for what they have caused by their "unprofessional " work or wrong doing!!!!!!!!!!!!! this might be the most important education ; its just the money out of someones pocket what make them thinking!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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