2.5B Baht to fix Suvarnabhumi 'soft spots'

[snoop1130]

2.5B Baht to fix Suvarnabhumi 'soft spots'

By Jintamas Saksornchai, Staff Reporter

 

Aircraft at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport in a July 2014 file photo. Photo: Barbara Walton / EPA

 

BANGKOK — The national airport operator Wednesday said up to 2.5 billion baht will be spent to repair Suvarnabhumi International Airport’s taxiways next year.

 

After an international pilots’ organization warned about soft spots in the airport’s taxiways and aircraft parking areas risked caving in, Airports of Thailand announced plans to replace damaged asphalt with concrete, which is more sturdy and durable.

 

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[coulson]

 the association said there were “failures on heavily transited areas after about two years, which is well below the expected pavement life of around seven years"

 

Umm...must be a great little earner, getting maintenance contracts in swampy. 

 

Wasn't that the panther slayers shoddy work?

[Cadbury]

Shoddy Thai workmanship and cheapskating exposed again. So much for the PM's grand plan to transform Utapao into an Eastern Aviation City.

Potential investors for Utapao won't be impressed or encouraged in the knowledge that Suvarnabhumi's tarmacs are sinking.

That should give them a fair indication of Thailand's aviation incapabilities.

 

[DrTuner]

Call in the Somchais, they'll shovel a couple of spoons in the potholes, 300b only, cheap cheap!

[gk10002000]

they used asphalt for the road surface?  That stuff gets soft with heat never mind 300,000 pounds of aircraft on top if it.  I can't believe the entire thing was not reinforced concrete.  Maybe other airports are like that, but I would never have imagined asphalt.  Not to mention as I understand it that really was a swampy area, and a few feet down below the surface the "prepared" road bed may be a little suspect and ground sinking is happening also

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[scorecard]

2.5B Baht, hope that includes an independent well-known internationally credible off-shore engineering assessment consultancy which will analyze every shovel full of cement for quality and the way it's installed and their work is reported in a way which nobody can interfere with. 

 

And hope there's a clause in the contract, which will be signed by some very senior Thai folks saying that any fault whatever found under 10 years means that everybody in the signing committee is dismissed and must reimburse the 2.5B Baht from their own pockets. 

 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2018 by scorecard

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

39 minutes ago, scorecard said:

2.5B Baht, hope that includes an independent well-known internationally credible off-shore engineering assessment consultancy which will analyze every shovel full of cement for quality and the way it's installed and their work is reported in a way which nobody can interfere with. 

 

And hope there's a clause in the contract, which will be signed by some very senior Thai folks saying that any fault whatever found under 10 years means that everybody in the signing committee is dismissed and must reimburse the 2.5B Baht from their own pockets.

 

You dreamer, you!!!

 

More than likely, if they actually do re-do the repaired sections with real quality concrete instead of Dairy Queen slushes, they'll probably be back in a few years paying to repair the same areas again because they never, either the first or the second time, probably did the required ground compaction and other site prep work to avoid future subsidence in a natively swampy area.

 

Edited June 6, 2018 by metisdead
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[worgeordie]

This is what happens when you build an Airport on a swamp.

regards worgeordie

[Searat7]

They should build the third runway first....this airport was beyond capacity when it opened 12 years ago....the third runway is a no brainer given the problems with the existing runways.

[wirat69]

9 hours ago, worgeordie said:

This is what happens when you build an Airport on a swamp.

regards worgeordie

... and did the King not advise against construction of an airport on that site?? Som nam  na!!

[worgeordie]

14 minutes ago, wirat69 said:

... and did the King not advise against construction of an airport on that site?? Som nam  na!!

Plus the late King also advised not to buy Submarines !

regards worgeordie

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Cadbury said:

Shoddy Thai workmanship and cheapskating exposed again. So much for the PM's grand plan to transform Utapao into an Eastern Aviation City.

Potential investors for Utapao won't be impressed or encouraged in the knowledge that Suvarnabhumi's tarmacs are sinking.

That should give them a fair indication of Thailand's aviation incapabilities.

 

Those of us that were here when Swampy was being built know well the reason for the shoddy construction. The entire facility is a shoddy, cheap construction, for the usual reason. At a time when Singapore's Changi was showing how it should have been done, LOS ended up with that lemon.

Those that don't know the reason need to do some research as to LOS during that period.

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

they used asphalt for the road surface?  That stuff gets soft with heat never mind 300,000 pounds of aircraft on top if it.  I can't believe the entire thing was not reinforced concrete.  Maybe other airports are like that, but I would never have imagined asphalt.  Not to mention as I understand it that really was a swampy area, and a few feet down below the surface the "prepared" road bed may be a little suspect and ground sinking is happening also

One has to understand that there were bigger priorities than building something properly. They would have had to have internationally approved runways or airlines would not have used them, but obviously that didn't apply to surfaces off the runways.

There were reports of poor quality surfaces after the airport opened, so nothing new.

Everything comes down to the usual reason.

[colinneil]

2.5 billion to fix the airways/ aprons, well 1.5 to fix the problems, the rest will go to airport directors mia noi fund, contractors slush fund, and a small amount to keep the juniors in line.

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, worgeordie said:

This is what happens when you build an Airport on a swamp.

regards worgeordie

If that were true, the runways would also have failed.

They were going to build there for decades, so nothing surprising that they finally did so.

 

[seajae]

all the ground area for this should have been stabilized/ reinforced to support all the weight on it, it should then have had the proper reinforced concrete laid on it at the correct thickness but that would have removed all the extra profit from the builders pockets so they did the usual and just built it up with red crap diet, didnt let it settle or compact it then laid  a bitumen surface as thin as they could get away with, probably put millions/billions in their pockets

[worgeordie]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If that were true, the runways would also have failed.

They were going to build there for decades, so nothing surprising that they finally did so.

 

Before the Airport was even open there were cracks reported in

the runways,and there have been repairs made to them over

the years,and now they are going to spend 2.5 Billion THB

to fix them again,the reason why the Airport was built there

was more about who owned the land,than the suitability to

to build an airport there.

 

regards worgeordie

[newnative]

2.5B Baht??? That's a lot of soft spots.

[Srikcir]

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

After an international pilots’ organization warned about soft spots in the airport’s taxiways and aircraft parking areas risked caving in

Does this mean that no one who works for airport management regularly inspects these areas for problems? Seems more the philosophy of waiting until there's an accident to know there's a problem.

[gk10002000]

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

One has to understand that there were bigger priorities than building something properly. They would have had to have internationally approved runways or airlines would not have used them, but obviously that didn't apply to surfaces off the runways.

There were reports of poor quality surfaces after the airport opened, so nothing new.

Everything comes down to the usual reason.

Yeah, I remember the reports.  I had flown into Don Muang twice just before Sub opened.  I remember Thaksin making a flight assuring everybody all is well.  That's a lot of square footage to keep above swamp water level

[Redline]

Just buy the plastic airstrips from China!

[DM07]

The "soft spot" of Suvarnabhumi being....the airport?!

[Dap]

Yup! That's what happens when you build an international airport on top of a swamp that had already been declared a watershed area (to assist prevention of flooding in Bangkok), and then use asphalt

instead of concrete ... guess they figured the concrete would sink faster than the asphalt ... very sad, but the high side is, they have a spankin' new submarine, a fleet of new tanks, new fighter aircraft AND plans for a multi-billion baht spy-in-the-sky. Oh yeah folks, please consider allowing coal fired power plants in your backyards cuz', we're only trying to help YOU! Ain't we grand?

Edited June 8, 2018 by Dap

[Oziex1]

Are these issues the reason we have to catch buses from the plane to the terminal.

[josephbloggs]

39 minutes ago, Oziex1 said:

Are these issues the reason we have to catch buses from the plane to the terminal.

No.

[scorecard]

On 6/7/2018 at 11:02 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Those of us that were here when Swampy was being built know well the reason for the shoddy construction. The entire facility is a shoddy, cheap construction, for the usual reason. At a time when Singapore's Changi was showing how it should have been done, LOS ended up with that lemon.

Those that don't know the reason need to do some research as to LOS during that period.

Well said.