Why I had to leave the UK for Thailand

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, Justfine said:

Fair enough if 80yo but he was only 53.

It is a good example to have your shit together, and never ever <deleted> up while living in Thailand! As said, always have a back up plan and reserves. It is not science, but basic knownledge, and Darwins survivel of the fittest comes to its proof if you choose to live in Thailand. 

[ancharee]

22 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Tell that to the widow of Graham Briar, he died on the operating table in Chiang Rai due to heart issues. In the UK, his home country, his chance of survival would have been much better. The truth is that medical care here is not that great, unless you are in Bangkok and pay top dollar for the best surgeons. And if you get into financial difficulties in Thailand you will not experience a good outcome ... it’s fine to enjoy Thailand but we should not let that blind our judgement. 

you were talking about being poor so if you were poor in the uk or the usa and had heart problems that needed surgery do you think you would be treated that day ! Unless you have insurance or enough money then it's a waiting list

[LivinLOS]

10 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The sea is nice, but the only available women are Eastern Euro hookers.

Ahh yes.. Ranking places by the price and availability of whores.. 

[transam]

1 hour ago, ancharee said:

you were talking about being poor so if you were poor in the uk or the usa and had heart problems that needed surgery do you think you would be treated that day ! Unless you have insurance or enough money then it's a waiting list

The UK has a national health system where nobody waits with immediate life threatening stuff...

[Kadilo]

Just now, transam said:

The UK has a national health system where nobody waits with immediate life threatening stuff...

I’m not sure that’s true anymore. 

Maybe still for the majority. 

[AlexRich]

15 hours ago, BritManToo said:

The sea is nice, but the only available women are Eastern Euro hookers.

 

Only true for those for whom hookers is all they can get.

[Hummin]

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

Only true for those for whom hookers is all they can get.

Who want a straight woman? 

[AlexRich]

5 hours ago, ancharee said:

you were talking about being poor so if you were poor in the uk or the usa and had heart problems that needed surgery do you think you would be treated that day ! Unless you have insurance or enough money then it's a waiting list

If you needed to be treated that day you would be. There will no doubt be a car crash somewhere in the UK today and the unfortunates who are injured will be rushed to hospital and treated ... no one at the hospital will ask if they are insured or where they come from, they'll just deal with the issue.

[Hummin]

If there is anyone? 

[AlexRich]

9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Who want a straight woman? 

Is that a "who's on base?" type question?

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

Is that a "who's on base?" type question?

Good question!

[jimster]

On 6/17/2018 at 8:57 AM, Peasandmash said:

Great observation Bob; Thai's don't like foreigners on hard times and living on low incomes.

Not all of them have a choice. Also, the vast majority of the almost 3 million migrant workers from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia live on low incomes and have hard times everyday. Not their choice.

 

As long as foreigners mind their own business and don't ask for handouts, why do Thais care about them? I don't think they are that judgemental, just as I try not to be in relation to Thais irrespective of wealth or social status. I might judge a Thai who drives like a maniac, but at the end of the day I don't care about that person because I'll probably never see them again.

[oldlakey]

3 minutes ago, jimster said:

Not all of them have a choice. Also, the vast majority of the almost 3 million migrant workers from Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia live on low incomes and have hard times everyday. Not their choice.

 

As long as foreigners mind their own business and don't ask for handouts, why do Thais care about them? I don't think they are that judgemental, just as I try not to be in relation to Thais irrespective of wealth or social status. I might judge a Thai who drives like a maniac, but at the end of the day I don't care about that person because I'll probably never see them again.

As in not see them coming

[NanLaew]

11 hours ago, transam said:

The UK has a national health system where nobody waits with immediate life threatening stuff...

Perhaps more precisely, the UK has a national health system where, depending on where one lives, nobody waits with immediate life threatening stuff and if you are of advanced years with multiple, age-related medical conditions, once you pass a point where the cost-effectiveness of sustaining your existence is challenged, their exit management strategy can be quite expeditious while typically failing to preserve the dying patient's dignity.

[BritManToo]

11 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Only true for those for whom hookers is all they can get.

Unless you bring your own, it doesn't matter.

There are no local women available, the men guard their women like many countries in the world.

 

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Perhaps more precisely, the UK has a national health system where, depending on where one lives, nobody waits with immediate life threatening stuff and if you are of advanced years with multiple, age-related medical conditions, once you pass a point where the cost-effectiveness of sustaining your existence is challenged, their exit management strategy can be quite expeditious while typically failing to preserve the dying patient's dignity.

Having lived in both countries, I can clearly say health care in Thailand is better for the locals.

Better and quicker if you are a foreigner with money.

 

In the UK you usually have to wait months to see a specialist, in Thailand it's often the first day you report the problem.

In Thailand you can treat yourself with antibiotics purchased over the counter, in the UK you have to wait a week for a doctors appointment. (then pay 20 pounds prescription fee, for the same drug that costs 1 pound in Thailand)

Edited June 19, 2018 by BritManToo

[ancharee]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Having lived in both countries, I can clearly say health care in Thailand is better for the locals.

Better and quicker if you are a foreigner with money.

 

In the UK you usually have to wait months to see a specialist, in Thailand it's often the first day you report the problem.

In Thailand you can treat yourself with antibiotics purchased over the counter, in the UK you have to wait a week for a doctors appointment. (then pay 20 pounds prescription fee, for the same drug that costs 1 pound in Thailand)

You would be better to follow alexrich advice and have a car accident, but then if you were poor how could you afford a car.

[bert bloggs]

AS you get older it really does help if you have a good and loving wife and Thai family ,if you are to end your days here ,that is one of the most important aspects of living here .

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Unless you bring your own, it doesn't matter.

There are no local women available, the men guard their women like many countries in the world.

 

 

If you spent any time there you would meet locals, Brits and many from other European countries, as well as tourists. As for Cypriot women, they make their own decisions.

 

[garrya]

On 6/18/2018 at 10:30 AM, transam said:

The UK has a national health system where nobody waits with immediate life threatening stuff...

Well, immediate life threating stuff is really the only one that is recognized in the UK. The big problem is that you will never make it to the doctor on time. GP waiting time could be weeks, referrals months, appointments to see specialists another few months and finally, you may still be alive, you will be seen by someone who will do everything  to find something that could extend your waiting time. 

I have got really bad personal experiences and the real reason why are leaving the UK is in fact the health service that is literally non-existent for some...

On the other hand, when I used to live in Thailand, I had been referred and treated way quicker and more efficiently.

Doctors in the UK do nothing but sell steriod medications, statins etc. 

My missus had lived in the UK for years and could not manage to be seen by a gynecologist even though she had the right to be seen. Lol. There was always a mishap, a missing document, forgotten referral, doctor not available, new appointment needed and it went on and on for ages. In Thailand, she was seen within days LOL.

[473geo]

1 hour ago, garrya said:

Well, immediate life threating stuff is really the only one that is recognized in the UK. The big problem is that you will never make it to the doctor on time. GP waiting time could be weeks, referrals months, appointments to see specialists another few months and finally, you may still be alive, you will be seen by someone who will do everything  to find something that could extend your waiting time. 

I have got really bad personal experiences and the real reason why are leaving the UK is in fact the health service that is literally non-existent for some...

On the other hand, when I used to live in Thailand, I had been referred and treated way quicker and more efficiently.

Doctors in the UK do nothing but sell steriod medications, statins etc. 

My missus had lived in the UK for years and could not manage to be seen by a gynecologist even though she had the right to be seen. Lol. There was always a mishap, a missing document, forgotten referral, doctor not available, new appointment needed and it went on and on for ages. In Thailand, she was seen within days LOL.

Funny I never have a problem booking my annual MOT and if I do have to vist the Doc without an appointment I go early in the morning and get a slot the same day. I have never been badly treated by the NHS, just lucky I guess.

 

Just to say always treated well by the Thai system too.

Edited June 22, 2018 by 473geo

[garrya]

3 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Funny I never have a problem booking my annual MOT and if I do have to vist the Doc without an appointment I go early in the morning and get a slot the same day. I have never been badly treated by the NHS, just lucky I guess.

 

Just to say always treated well by the Thai system too.

Good on you. There must be a quota sytem in place. Busier practices may also use up their budget quicker and this is why they try to turn down patients. It is extreme how differently life treats people.

I wish I had time to list all my negative experiences with the NHS. Shocking.

I never forget when my missus told me how much she expected from the NHS and how little she got.  

[SheungWan]

On 6/17/2018 at 11:49 AM, InMyShadow said:

Life is the longest thing you can do 

 

On 6/17/2018 at 2:33 PM, Kinnock said:

I can't decide if that's really deep and profound, or meaningless.?

Meaningless twaddle. As is the statement 'life is too short'. When I hear that it inevitably comes from someone who is going to do something short-sighted and probably silly. There's a whole boxful of loser mantras out there.

[473geo]

2 minutes ago, garrya said:

Good on you. There must be a quota sytem in place. Busier practices may also use up their budget quicker and this is why they try to turn down patients. It is extreme how differently life treats people.

I wish I had time to list all my negative experiences with the NHS. Shocking.

I never forget when my missus told me how much she expected from the NHS and how little she got.  

Well I guess I consider myself fortunate that I have had little call on the NHS, happy for it to remain that way.

I don't hear a lot of complaints most understand the staff do their best sometimes under difficult circumstances.

[Justfine]

6 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

 

Meaningless twaddle. As is the statement 'life is too short'. When I hear that it inevitably comes from someone who is going to do something short-sighted and probably silly. There's a whole boxful of loser mantras out there.

Yeah I suppose sitting around doing nothing is better.

[SheungWan]

On 6/17/2018 at 8:53 AM, simoh1490 said:

In fact Singapore, Hong Kong and Malaysia have the best infrastructure although I agree that Thailand's is the most affordable. That said I moved here because I was already living in Hong Kong and had been in the region for several years and I couldn't stand the thought of going back to what Dan has described, at least not on a full time and permanent basis. I'm getting ready to embark on a 50/50 split of my year, after 16 years here full time I'm now going to summer in the UK and winter in Thailand, hopefully, the best of both worlds.

You may find 50% in the UK drags. Maybe shave off a month or two.

Edited June 22, 2018 by SheungWan

[vogie]

49 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

 

Meaningless twaddle. As is the statement 'life is too short'. When I hear that it inevitably comes from someone who is going to do something short-sighted and probably silly. There's a whole boxful of loser mantras out there.

That's easy for you to say.

[simoh1490]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

You may find 50% in the UK drags. Maybe shave off a month or two.

That's always an option, as is renting out the flat if I find in successive years that it's not working as planned. But there will be a novelty value during the first year plus I'm right next door to the Lakes and the Dales hence several interesting and scenic areas to (re) explore - even 70 year olds need adventures from time to time.

[transam]

6 hours ago, garrya said:

Well, immediate life threating stuff is really the only one that is recognized in the UK. The big problem is that you will never make it to the doctor on time. GP waiting time could be weeks, referrals months, appointments to see specialists another few months and finally, you may still be alive, you will be seen by someone who will do everything  to find something that could extend your waiting time. 

I have got really bad personal experiences and the real reason why are leaving the UK is in fact the health service that is literally non-existent for some...

On the other hand, when I used to live in Thailand, I had been referred and treated way quicker and more efficiently.

Doctors in the UK do nothing but sell steriod medications, statins etc. 

My missus had lived in the UK for years and could not manage to be seen by a gynecologist even though she had the right to be seen. Lol. There was always a mishap, a missing document, forgotten referral, doctor not available, new appointment needed and it went on and on for ages. In Thailand, she was seen within days LOL.

I woke up one day to find I was going blind in one eye, went to my local hozzy, they had a look.

Half hour later they said get to St.Thomas's Hospital in London, opposite the Houses of Parliament, they are expecting you..At midnight that same day I was on the operating table.

Site saved, went home after 3 days....

[garrya]

3 hours ago, transam said:

I woke up one day to find I was going blind in one eye, went to my local hozzy, they had a look.

Half hour later they said get to St.Thomas's Hospital in London, opposite the Houses of Parliament, they are expecting you..At midnight that same day I was on the operating table.

Site saved, went home after 3 days....

How does this change my experience?