BREAKING NEWS All 13 Football Team Members Found Alive inside Flooded Cave

[dallen52]

3 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I was actually talking about the kids, not the rescue teams.

Yes..

Sorry it was in edit mode.

I hadn't finished....?

I haven't found the delete yet.

Edited July 3, 2018 by dallen52

[overherebc]

11 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

Yes..

Sorry it was in edit mode.

I hadn't finished....?

I haven't found the delete yet.

I started answering something and realised it was the wrong post.

Took ages and shutting down my phone before it would stop coming back as previous content. ?

[Snow Leopard]

Imagine what they felt after so long in the darkness and 2 farangs come out of the water, Surreal. 

 

And to other comments i have read. People get stuck in things all over the world. Up mountains (Mountain Rescue), Out at sea (RNLI), In mines and in caves. That's why they have rescue teams. Selfless people. I commend them from wherever they come from. 

 

I have done a bit of potholing myself on school trips (Long time ago now). We were a bit better equipped though than these boys though, the UK is a lot colder obviously so the need to be prepared is part of the teaching. But these things go on as part of growing up. Before the world turned into a Nanny/PC/Blame game place.

 

Instead of blaming anyone support all the people that were involved and don't be a cynic. Things happen. This is called humanity and caring and the world is always a better place with these types of people on the planet. You could tell by the guys voice he was so chuffed and made up to have found them alive. 

[delphioracle]

Well despite that which is being or has been said  possibly the coach was or is the strong man of the team who kept up their  morale.

 

Compared to  the antics of  those ''community leader characters in the U K for instance who have led and groomed children he is without a doubt a solid leader with a good heart who had and probably still has the trust of those youngsters. 

[Artisi]

44 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

I was putting my positive thoughts forward in a hope of projecting onto the powers that be here.

Hopefully the grown ups remember all the joint effort and mutual cooperation that was shared..

 

It would be sad if they just put signs on every cave.

Do Not Enter...

I fully concur, but you know Thailand today's lesson has been completed, no homework given out - so forgotten by tomorrow - - - - unfortunately. 

[Trouble]

Now that the boys have been found I can say I am certainly glad that had I been stuck in that cave,  it wasn't the members of the TV forum that were in charge of the rescue. The negativity, criticism of how the rescue was progressing, the blame game by many here would have ended any possibility of rescue. I would still be in there. Please remember that things don't always go as planned and obstacles get in the way of plans. Endless criticisms by people with little first hand knowledge of a situation add nothing to the process. Let's be glad some professionals did the job, unhampered by suggestions from the TV crowd. The job now is to get the boys out, not an easy task ahead. But they are safe and things look good. Great work by all those involved.

[mdmayes]

Great news.

[jerry921]

20 hours ago, bannork said:

I can definitely use this story to encourage my students to learn English.

' Students , you never know when you're going to need English in Thailand. You could be stuck down a cave in the dark for nine days when all of a sudden a British rescue worker turns up. Now what should you say?'

Well, yes, go for it, but I think swimming teachers have an even better claim on the incident since it's now confirmed that none of the boys can swim at all (let alone dive).

[Stargeezr]

Getting the students and coach will take a lot more effort and good luck. Unless a shaft

can be dug to the cave,  they have to learn how to breath with the scuba equipment,

or be put in a container with air supplies and hauled out through the miles of caverns.

 It is going to take a lot more effort, just to get the medical people to them and help them,  with many more divers and many other people assisting in the next stages of rescue. Good luck to all.

[Andrew Dwyer]

Well, yes, go for it, but I think swimming teachers have an even better claim on the incident since it's now confirmed that none of the boys can swim at all (let alone dive).

Wow, I knew that a lot of Thai’s couldn’t swim but zero out of 13 ( or 12 ) ! that’s bad.

Hopefully the government will provide funding for kids to learn to swim as a school lesson.

I remember when I was a kid we all went to the local baths and that’s where I learnt, maybe 8 or 9 years old. A grotty old swimming pool with a stone diving board! but enough to teach me, and countless others, how to swim.

[bannork]

Thais my age tell me that in the past most upcountry kids could swim. The rivers and canals were cleaner.

But once swimming pools were built in the cities (richer and nearer consumers there) it was the city kids who learned to swim whilst the number of their rural cousins swimming declined as the rivers and canals became polluted with industrialization.

[faraday]

36 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Wow, I knew that a lot of Thai’s couldn’t swim but zero out of 13 ( or 12 ) ! that’s bad.

Hopefully the government will provide funding for kids to learn to swim as a school lesson.

I remember when I was a kid we all went to the local baths and that’s where I learnt, maybe 8 or 9 years old. A grotty old swimming pool with a stone diving board! but enough to teach me, and countless others, how to swim.

Was that in Chipping Campden?

 

Outdoor pool with green water. But great fun!

[Artisi]

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

Thais my age tell me that in the past most upcountry kids could swim. The rivers and canals were cleaner.

But once swimming pools were built in the cities (richer and nearer consumers there) it was the city kids who learned to swim whilst the number of their rural cousins swimming declined as the rivers and canals became polluted with industrialization.

the state and health aspects of some of the water ways you would certainly be better off not learning to swim in them and run the risk of drowning at some later time.

[Kwasaki]

7 hours ago, mdmayes said:

Great news.

Sure is and was proud when I heard that the 2 British specialist  divers got to them first from new sources. ???????

Whatever so pleased for the kids if they can survive that they now learn to swim. ? 

 

[ThaiWai]

On 7/3/2018 at 7:22 AM, Jeffrey346 said:

Different people have different beliefs. Show some respect..

I believe in reality. That's the only belief that actually matters or helps in a situation like this. Certainly all thanks should go to the men and women who actually helped not those who sat on a fictitious throne in a cloud doing nothing except being responsible for the entire incident. I think delusional people require psychological help respect for conquering false beliefs comes later. And don't ever give me orders. 

Edited July 4, 2018 by ThaiWai

[Kwasaki]

6 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

It is going to take a lot more effort, just to get the medical people to them and help them,  with many more divers and many other people assisting in the next stages of rescue. Good luck to all.

The medics are there already there checking and giving them nutrients etc to build their strengths to be taken out after scuba breathing is taught to them.

The worry is more rain forecasted.

Edited July 4, 2018 by Kwasaki

[dallen52]

20 hours ago, overherebc said:

I started answering something and realised it was the wrong post.

Took ages and shutting down my phone before it would stop coming back as previous content. ?

Sometimes it retains the text in the edit or submit reply area. 

From what you have been doing before. 

Just have to double check it sometimes. 

[Artisi]

13 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

Sometimes it retains the text in the edit or submit reply area. 

From what you have been doing before. 

Just have to double check it sometimes. 

It's a pain in the preverbial..  

[faraday]

3 hours ago, ThaiWai said:

I believe in reality. That's the only belief that actually matters or helps in a situation like this. Certainly all thanks should go to the men and women who actually helped not those who sat on a fictitious throne in a cloud doing nothing except being responsible for the entire incident. I think delusional people require psychological help respect for conquering false beliefs comes later. And don't ever give me orders. 

In the context of this thread, your post is really, a bit daft.

[superal]

6 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Wow, I knew that a lot of Thai’s couldn’t swim but zero out of 13 ( or 12 ) ! that’s bad.

Hopefully the government will provide funding for kids to learn to swim as a school lesson.

I remember when I was a kid we all went to the local baths and that’s where I learnt, maybe 8 or 9 years old. A grotty old swimming pool with a stone diving board! but enough to teach me, and countless others, how to swim.

My thoughts as well .This has to be an embarrassment for the Thai government having a global audience  . I have heard many times of young Thai children drowning in lakes etc . Learning to swim is a must and should be part of their schooling and the younger the better as fear of water increases with age  . Hopefully this event will spur the authorities to come up with a nation wide plan for swimming education and also as a form of exercise / sport .  Hardly rocket science is it ?

[Tony125]

How they might be rescued

 

https://www.livescience.com/62989-thai-cave-escape-plan.html?utm_source=notification

[jerry921]

8 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

How they might be rescued

 

https://www.livescience.com/62989-thai-cave-escape-plan.html?utm_source=notification

One thing about the theorizing in that article. The first dive they have to do is 400 meters long and I haven't heard anything about any air pockets along the way to surface in along the way. If they make it that far, to pattaya beach, the rest is much easier. There's a short deep section where they have to go down fairly far but not for very long, and another shallow section but that one is shorter than the first 400 meters, which is the hard part.

 

It also doesn't discuss the need, mentioned by the rescuers to navigate a very tight point where they had to take their tanks off. My mental image of a rebreather is something that's even larger and bulkier than a regular scuba tank.

[Tony125]

14 minutes ago, jerry921 said:

One thing about the theorizing in that article. The first dive they have to do is 400 meters long and I haven't heard anything about any air pockets along the way to surface in along the way. If they make it that far, to pattaya beach, the rest is much easier. There's a short deep section where they have to go down fairly far but not for very long, and another shallow section but that one is shorter than the first 400 meters, which is the hard part.

 

It also doesn't discuss the need, mentioned by the rescuers to navigate a very tight point where they had to take their tanks off. My mental image of a rebreather is something that's even larger and bulkier than a regular scuba tank.

They need this:

or possibly this :

REVO III CCR

Check out the latest price on:
Revo Rebreathers

 

 

BEST FOR: Good all around unit – but particularly good for cave diving due to slim design

SCRUBBER DURATION: 3 hours

COUNTER LUNG LOCATION: Back mount

PROS: Unique scrubber system that is designed to cater for safety

CONS: Metal case and frame need extra attention and care to keep well maintained

 

[Kwasaki]

33 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

How they might be rescued

 

https://www.livescience.com/62989-thai-cave-escape-plan.html?utm_source=notification

The Mr Black has it right but will the the Thai navy seal do it from the last 16 hr Thai news it didn't sound like they are I am concern with the way they reported.

 

 

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

They need this:

or possibly this :

REVO III CCR

Check out the latest price on:
Revo Rebreathers

 

 

BEST FOR: Good all around unit – but particularly good for cave diving due to slim design

SCRUBBER DURATION: 3 hours

COUNTER LUNG LOCATION: Back mount

PROS: Unique scrubber system that is designed to cater for safety

CONS: Metal case and frame need extra attention and care to keep well maintained

 

The first contact rescue guys said it took 3 hours to reach the boys found location clinging to the sides of the cave against the rushing water current maybe going out will be quicker then.

 

[Peterw42]

9 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

They need this:

or possibly this :

REVO III CCR

Check out the latest price on:
Revo Rebreathers

 

 

BEST FOR: Good all around unit – but particularly good for cave diving due to slim design

SCRUBBER DURATION: 3 hours

COUNTER LUNG LOCATION: Back mount

PROS: Unique scrubber system that is designed to cater for safety

CONS: Metal case and frame need extra attention and care to keep well maintained

 

The ORB 2 you mention is a "concept" design, a theoretical concept done by design students. It doesnt exsist, the same as the re-breathers you see in James Bond movies dont exist.

[ThaiWai]

On 7/4/2018 at 1:33 PM, Jeffrey346 said:

Like I said, SHOW SOME RESPECT...

Like I said I don't take orders especially those who believe mythology will save the day ie;you. 

[ThaiWai]

On 7/4/2018 at 1:33 PM, Jeffrey346 said:

Like I said, SHOW SOME RESPECT...

Your post not only violates TV rules but your own advise as well. The hypocrisy is awesome. Reported. 

[ThaiWai]

23 hours ago, faraday said:

In the context of this thread, your post is really, a bit daft.

Theads go where they may without your approval. You are a victim of your own critique. 

[Jeffrey346]

16 hours ago, ThaiWai said:

Theads go where they may without your approval. You are a victim of your own critique. 

Looks like you can't get along with anyone.. How sad.

16 hours ago, ThaiWai said:

Your post not only violates TV rules but your own advise as well. The hypocrisy is awesome. Reported. 

Is that a fact. Which rule may that be?