Popular Post Puritan Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 The Yanks are begrudging because they can't claim the glory...…….The English heroes modestly told the media that their job is done and aren't doing interviews...….well done lads. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 According to some in this forum , in a relay race only the athlete at the end should get a price. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Puritan said: Ha ha ha that's the funniest comment yet. Especially as the Commons is the lower house of the UK parliament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 hours ago, Graemej100 said: What a 'put down' of a story and so bloody what. They did it! The Americans didn't do it. Mistake or luck - they did it! This is the best story I've had in Thailand for 6 years. How bloody dare you insinuate that it was 'luck'. It was bloody hard work. From a Kiwi living in Thailand. I suspect that the Brits are displaying traditional British understatement, modesty and reserve when implying it was 'luck'. I also think cultural sensitivities are in play here - to ease the possibly ruffled nationalistic feathers of some grandstanding generals ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Eligius said: I suspect that the Brits are displaying traditional British understatement, modesty and reserve when implying it was 'luck'. I also think cultural sensitivities are in play here - to ease the possibly ruffled nationalistic feathers of some grandstanding generals ... Not too mention the feathers that have been ruffled on here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 And so claim to accolade comes so fast in support from those who rode upon the back of tireless donkeys as assumed in such claim. Is that claim from the riders or the the grasping fans of national identity devoid of any personal attribute let alone relevant to this situation? If they are willing let the individuals involved clarify the entire evolution of events. In reality there will be no heroes until such time as these children reach open air. At that moment all and any in any significant contribution will deserve heroic status on the basis of that and not nationality. Consider for even just a moment where this diving team gained experience sufficient to be considered best suited to vanguard this urgent effort. I congratulate them as much as in their success in first sighting this stranded group as I do in them having confidence in the support that made that possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, oldlakey said: Not too mention the feathers that have been ruffled on here If it turns out what is being reported is true the MVP of this crisis may very well be Thai. Seems the young coach being ridiculed and threatened with arrest actually didn't lead the boys into the cave. He was contacted by several of the parents when the sons didn't arrive home. He went looking for them and most likely saved all of them with wise leadership. I think we can all agree the outcome most likely would have been different without his presence there for those nine days. Might be best to say there were multiple MVPs, like about 1000. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damrongsak Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Inepto Cracy said: So too, their history is completed with stories and news of snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory. Distinguished and well-balanced people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damrongsak Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 hours ago, lvr181 said: Now it's a "bash the Brits" day is it? Get a life! Shouldn't be bashing Brits on July 4th. They are celebrating Good Riddance Day. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathologix Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 hours ago, PepeLePew said: Clearly the NYT knows as much about 'luck' as Alanis Morissette knew about 'irony'... Where did the NYT ever use the word "luck"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pathologix Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Puritan said: Shouldn't the Thai's have knowledge of their own caves? That's as ludicrous as expecting English speakers to have knowledge of their own language's grammar. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 34 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said: If it turns out what is being reported is true the MVP of this crisis may very well be Thai. Seems the young coach being ridiculed and threatened with arrest actually didn't lead the boys into the cave. He was contacted by several of the parents when the sons didn't arrive home. He went looking for them and most likely saved all of them with wise leadership. I think we can all agree the outcome most likely would have been different without his presence there for those nine days. Might be best to say there were multiple MVPs, like about 1000. My comment was aimed at those childish nationalistic feathers nothing else As I have already pointed out this has been recognized as a joint effort by many of the TVM who have posted When in the early days a member said in one of the threads that he hoped they did not wander off looking for a way out, my reply was for them to stay where they were and wait for rescue It was assumed the coach had taken them into the cave at that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathologix Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said: If it turns out what is being reported is true the MVP of this crisis may very well be Thai. Seems the young coach being ridiculed and threatened with arrest actually didn't lead the boys into the cave. He was contacted by several of the parents when the sons didn't arrive home. He went looking for them and most likely saved all of them with wise leadership. Source? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, pathologix said: Source? If it proves to be correct then he is certainly a top notch guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pathologix Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldlakey said: If it proves to be correct then he is certainly a top notch guy If the divine power of cave spirits proves to be correct, then that prognosticating monk is a top-notch guy. But until something approaching evidence appears, in either instance, I'm going to stick to the details provided by fact-checked, respectable news sources, not Internet memes and rumours. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, pathologix said: Source? Praise for assistant coach who sacrificed himself for the good of the team #63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiangMaiLightning2143 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 And in a few weeks when all of this is forgotten you will once again be told you are obsolete, or owe the world a living, because 150 years ago there was Colonialism, and sombody you never knew owned slaves. Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pathologix Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 minute ago, JAZZDOG said: Praise for assistant coach who sacrificed himself for the good of the team #63 Yeah, that looks like a very reliable source – an unknown Thai poster supposedly quoting The Telegraph (without linking to a story) but showing a picture of The Times. This looks way more like a false rumour than a real source. But feel free to link to the corresponding article in either publication to prove me wrong. I would love to believe the guy a hero; let's see some evidence. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grusa Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 What is wrong with you people? If all you can do is carp and moan at each other, and muddy the waters with asinine comments, you are no better than the newshounds and the politicians, cobbling together yesterdays' stories into todays' "news". I for one am fed up ploughing through endless pages of rubbish to find out what is really happening. Just accept that the experts are on hand, doing the best they can in difficult circumstances, and really don't give a monkeys' what you think about it. If by some strange chance you know better than they do, stop pontificating......go and help. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 19 minutes ago, pathologix said: Yeah, that looks like a very reliable source – an unknown Thai poster supposedly quoting The Telegraph (without linking to a story) but showing a picture of The Times. This looks way more like a false rumour than a real source. But feel free to link to the corresponding article in either publication to prove me wrong. I would love to believe the guy a hero; let's see some evidence. Several other sources also. My Thai gf heard it on local Thai news. News gathered on TVF is often rumor, I rely much more on local programing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Grusa said: What is wrong with you people? If all you can do is carp and moan at each other, and muddy the waters with asinine comments, you are no better than the newshounds and the politicians, cobbling together yesterdays' stories into todays' "news". I for one am fed up ploughing through endless pages of rubbish to find out what is really happening. Just accept that the experts are on hand, doing the best they can in difficult circumstances, and really don't give a monkeys' what you think about it. If by some strange chance you know better than they do, stop pontificating......go and help. If your fed up simply tune out and read something else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZZDOG Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 CNN reported: Claus Rasmussen, who is part of the rescue team, said the boys have told divers they heard dogs barking, a rooster crowing and children playing. That information now has teams looking at whether there is a chimney or hole they can access instead of trying to get the boys out through the water. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 13 hours ago, markaoffy said: The Best Caving Divers in the World From UK! Fact Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect One of the best....Joint effort, ...be many best divers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, JAZZDOG said: Praise for assistant coach who sacrificed himself for the good of the team #63 I totally agree with (Praise) ..The sign at entrance says July not enter ( Warning ) , they went in June 23rd...why crucify the coach . Also be the officials (Governor ) who should of had a locked gate at entrance of cave ..also slam the Governor who also failed to mention the Brits...Think coach was maybe wrong or even stupid for taking in there in the first place, ...But He saved them...Just think what if he had not been there? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Soup Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Russell17au said: The way that a lot of you a carrying on anyone would think that the Thai's just sat on their asses while waiting for 5 days for these 3 Brits to arrive. No the didn't just sit on their asses for 5 days waiting for the 3 Brits to arrive, on day 2 the hammock delivery arrived. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fish Head Soup Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 10 hours ago, SpeakeasyThai said: Britain or 'Brits' as you state is actually England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The football team you are referring to is England. I hazard a guess and would assume you are from United States in North America. Fear not, it's not uncommon for your breed to be so geographical ignorant. ? If you are going to lecture someone on being 'geographically ignorant' then at least be geographically correct yourself. England + Scotland + Wales = Great Britain. Great Britain + Northern Ireland = the United Kingdom. ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Head Soup Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, JAZZDOG said: CNN reported: Claus Rasmussen, who is part of the rescue team, said the boys have told divers they heard dogs barking, a rooster crowing and children playing. That information now has teams looking at whether there is a chimney or hole they can access instead of trying to get the boys out through the water. Auditory hallucinations. It would be expected in these conditions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chickenslegs Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) I am sure that the Command Team have been keeping detailed logs of every single part of this operation. It would be really interesting if (after the whole incident has been concluded and debriefed) we could have access to all that information to see the parts played by all the people involved, some of whom we have hardly heard of. For example, a couple of days ago I read that the Chinese team of six divers had been tasked with securing guide ropes throughout all the underwater sections of the route to Pattaya Beach. That is a vital piece of work (I imagine it's dangerous work too), but hardly mentioned again in the media. I have read that Aussies, Germans, Swedes, Laotians, the US Navy and others have been involved in this rescue - but they have not received much press (well, the gorgeous USN Jessica Tate did get quite a lot of attention). Regarding the Brits (I am British (English)): Nobody can deny that they have done a great job so far and they have not claimed any recognition for it. I suspect that those guys will, modestly, credit any success to the whole team. To me, that is very honest and "British". Edited July 5, 2018 by Ron19 Off topic comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 hours ago, pathologix said: If the divine power of cave spirits proves to be correct, then that prognosticating monk is a top-notch guy. But until something approaching evidence appears, in either instance, I'm going to stick to the details provided by fact-checked, respectable news sources, not Internet memes and rumours. OK I am with you on this You have to admit it would leave a nice cuddly feeling though One last point I am glad you employed the "IF"word in your POST just like yours truly Have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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