Lupatria Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Juan B Tong said: In future to prevent further losses, Chinese tourists will be required to put a refundable deposit down upon receiving a Thai approved life preserver. Edited July 9, 2018 by Lupatria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said: The tourists have learned the harsh lessons of boat safety and need to stick to the roads in future for a more uniform dispatching. ...and don't forget, there are more chalk outlines of bodies on the tarmac than zebra crossings. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Luckily for Thailand media is concentrating on the cave so this is very easy to sweep under the rug whilst the people look the other way. I also heard there was a helicopter that crashed the end of last week, haven't seen any mention of this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Luckily for Thailand media is concentrating on the cave so this is very easy to sweep under the rug whilst the people look the other way. I also heard there was a helicopter that crashed the end of last week, haven't seen any mention of this. Have only heard from Thai friends about the helicopter crash.Also no foreign media reporting about the boat accident. Only about the cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formaleins Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Yes, that is what matters, that is the thing to be concerned about, that is what everyone should be thinking about after such an appalling tragedy... the great god... tourist numbers. Have you also noticed how well they seem to have managed to keep it out of the mainstream western media? Jonathon Head of the BBC is probably too busy giving head and brown tonguing the correct anus's in Thailand. Besides, most of the victims are onl Chinese, so they don't count as people anyway. It stinks really, it has barely had a mention on many of the main news outlets. If it was a boatload of Somali refugee kids going down in the Meditteranean, they would be all out virtue signalling with candlelight vigils and telling us how Islam is a religion of peace. Edited July 9, 2018 by Formaleins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Nearly all the victims were/are Chinese. So western news media would not be likely to report on it much, but we can be guaranteed that it will be big news in China. And the Thais will likely take it more seriously than they would a mostly western victim trajedy because the Chinese are 1) more strategically important to Thai tourism long term and 2) the Chinese spook easily and 3) their government actually makes efforts to protect their interests abroad (unlike our western governments) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisdoc Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Have you also noticed how well they seem to have managed to keep it out of the mainstream western media? Jonathon Head of the BBC is probably too busy giving head and brown tonguing the correct anus's in Thailand. Besides, most of the victims are onl Chinese, so they don't count as people anyway. It stinks really, it has barely had a mention on many of the main news outlets. If it was a boatload of Somali refugee kids going down in the Meditteranean, they would be all out virtue signalling with candlelight vigils and telling us how Islam is a religion of peace.From Melbourne Australia. 2 years ago 2 murders of girls in 6 months by different killers. One an Irish girl leaving a nightclub, the other a Chinese girl walking to work in the morning. Press still talks about the Irish nightclubber, the working Chinese girl is never mentioned. Sent from my SM-G900I using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Ah, must get the priorities right. '... Yunyong Thaicharoen said, the government has to investigate the cause of the accident ...' That should be a given. But TiT. 'The government must also rebuild confidence among tourists, demonstrating that lessons were learned from this tragedy and steps taken to prevent a recurrence ...' Like all previous ones, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, manhood said: Thailand is one of the most dangerouse countries in the world for traveling!!!! And dont compare with Syria or anything like that....Safety first you can read everywhere but nobody at all care about safety as long pockets are filles with money and statistics are anyway manipulated by those who need to use them! So be aware on anthing you are doing in this country! Agree. In Thailand, death waits for us everywhere all the time by people who, while generally friendly, believe that safety doesn't really matter because life and death is a matter of luck and fate. A faulty elevator, a plane captain who is poorly trained, auto drivers who drive cars with the same casual lack of precision they use to walk, heavy truck drivers who drive them like they drive their motocys, poor dimly lit roads, bad or missing road signs, dangerous ungrounded electric work, fire exits locked and chained, buildings designed without any fire code safety, many people socialized to have fragile egos and prone to violence to solve disputes, agent orange chemicals being sprayed all over agriculture fields, ect ect ect. Charming country but deadly as can be. Edited July 9, 2018 by Fex Bluse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: '... Chinese ... government actually makes efforts to protect their interests abroad (unlike our western governments) This wouldn't be the Chinese protecting their interests; it would be the Thais protecting theirs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jonmarleesco said: This wouldn't be the Chinese protecting their interests; it would be the Thais protecting theirs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Apparently the captain didn't want to take the boat out but the owner insisted. The owner is Chinese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 ...in lieu of any apology, regret or condolences....??? ...I guess we see what their priorities are....??? ...***anyone asking how it is that not one crew member was lost...??? ...I guess we see what their priorities were....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Chrisdoc said: From Melbourne Australia. 2 years ago 2 murders of girls in 6 months by different killers. One an Irish girl leaving a nightclub, the other a Chinese girl walking to work in the morning. Press still talks about the Irish nightclubber, the working Chinese girl is never mentioned. Sent from my SM-G900I using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app There's more Irish in Australia than there are in Ireland. If she had been the one walking to work in the morning, her story would still remain more prevalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Saladin Posted July 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2018 It deserves to adversely affect tourism. Why doesn't the Thai government have inspectors checking tourist boats at EVERY port of embarkation for sea worthiness, overcrowding, etc. and giving a red card and penalties to those that don't comply? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 It deserves to adversely affect tourism. Why doesn't the Thai government have inspectors checking tourist boats at EVERY port of embarkation for sea worthiness, overcrowding, etc. and giving a red card and penalties to those that don't comply?For the Klong Taxi boats in Bangkok and the Ferries to Malaysia to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George FmplesdaCosteedback Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Life is cheap and TAT are still no better with a new boss. Chinese will get the message if nothing is done and go elsewhere eventually. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 ..sounds about right, they will give discounts now.. on the same boat line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeVonderBearz Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Saladin said: It deserves to adversely affect tourism. Why doesn't the Thai government have inspectors checking tourist boats at EVERY port of embarkation for sea worthiness, overcrowding, etc. and giving a red card and penalties to those that don't comply? You're right. That would take planning and organising and non corrupt inspectors who would rather save the lives of others than take a few baht and the ability to deal with pee'd off boat owners who can't operate as their boats are death traps and enforcing laws and collecting penalties. Alot of the above is lacking in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanista Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) I agree with the Thai authorities but only with their predictions for the tourism industry.. No-one cares about 50 dead Chinese. The cave circus has had 1000 times more media coverage than this family tragedy and none of the cave mongers have died. The Chinese will keep coming in millions to Thailand because its so cheap. They cant afford a decent holiday in Australia but thousands of Chinese can and they have alot of fun and are much safer than the Chinese here in LOS. I doubt if more than a handful of Chinese die in OZ every year. It would be hundreds in LOS. Thailands tourism industry is full of uneducated monkeys and corrupt officials. Pattaya and Phuket being prime examples. Edited July 10, 2018 by lanista 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toscano Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 All that matters to Thailand is money , that a boat sinks with 105 people on board and 42 people die is of little concern , only that tourism might be affected . The sinking was not an unforeseeable accident , it was an act of criminal negligence on the part of the captain and owners of the vessel . You do a meteorological study of weather conditions at see before leaving port . You do not take a vessel to sea in very rough weather , neither do people go scuba diving in more than calm sea conditions . The captain of this boat should be criminally charged with manslaughter and banned from commanding a vessel ever again ; the owners too should be charged and made to pay sufficient damages to put them out of business for ever . Does Thailand not have Harbour Masters that have authority to prevent all vessels putting to sea in bad weather ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Quote from Richard Barrow: When will the Minister of Tourism raise the standard of tourist safety? I’m sick & tired of them saying after every tragedy that they are “working on the problem”. How many more tourists have to die? All laws must be strictly enforced & unlicensed operators closed down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I notice that Prawit is blaming foreign operators. Naturally he would. Not the boat operators. Were the passengers ordered to wear safety floaties? Did they know where to find them? Were there any actually on the boat? Any of this reported? Sent from my E5823 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulikens Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 7/9/2018 at 6:20 AM, Anythingleft? said: It truly is a horrific reflection of the Thai mindset, anybody that thinks otherwise is delusional....... Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 What a callous money minded bunch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) oops Edited July 22, 2018 by stanleycoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 All sorted now. Welcome Chinese tourists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'm not sure if this is an indicator for the incline of Chinese tourist arrivals in Thailand but just today Air Asia announced 0 Baht flights to many Chinese cities from now until End of September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koimiloi Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 hours ago, CLW said: I'm not sure if this is an indicator for the incline of Chinese tourist arrivals in Thailand but just today Air Asia announced 0 Baht flights to many Chinese cities from now until End of September. Looking at it from the other side, do many Thais go to China for holidays? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 10:54 PM, CLW said: Air Asia announced 0 Baht flights to many Chinese cities from now until End of September. Interesting , I can't find it , do you have a link ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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