Guest Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, smutcakes said: Elon has certainly got a lot of people talking about Elon.... well who would of thunk it.... duh i am sure he did not.......... You can also think it in the way that Elon got lots of people thinking how to solve this specific problem, which eventually leads to new solutions, which might lead available solutions, when the next similar situation happens. Today we think about this cave rescue. Tomorrow we might be thinking of people who need to be rescued from a sunk boat. The next day, who knows what the situation might be? The engineering, combined with science rarely goes to waste. Sometimes the ideas need time to be useful again, in some entirely different situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sandrabbit said: No he has South African, Canadian & American citizenship. Resident in US though. No That's true. He has South African, Canadian & American citizenship. Resident in US though. Fixed it for you. That's what the melting pot is all about. About 10% of Americans were born in another country. They're still Americans. And by choice. Which makes me chuckle when I read people bashing the USA. As if there's any other country that more people WANT to move to. Edited July 10, 2018 by impulse 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 The kids are no doubt collectively wondering what was that strange capsule like object they passed on the way out... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rgraham Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 He made more of an effort than I did, have to give him some credit. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsincity Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 He turns up with something that is utterly useless and starts tweeting. "The US tech billionaire behind SpaceX and Tesla has mounted an impressive PR campaign: developing, testing, and transporting a mini-submarine to the cave system, from where he updated his social media accounts with news of his arrival." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/44755093 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 A flame post and reply have been removed from this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tropo Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, lionsincity said: He turns up with something that is utterly useless and starts tweeting. "The US tech billionaire behind SpaceX and Tesla has mounted an impressive PR campaign: developing, testing, and transporting a mini-submarine to the cave system, from where he updated his social media accounts with news of his arrival." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/44755093 You just don't quit, do you? You're trying to turn this thread into a smear campaign. Why waste your time looking for evidence in an effort to justify your obvious distress. The fact is Elon Musk is a young, successful, very wealthy man. The problem is you can't deal with that. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aussieroaming Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 Good onya Mr Musk for caring enough to try and help 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jossthaifarang Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 36 minutes ago, steve73 said: Comments on another ongoing thread suggest all the boys were sedated anyway, using the final chamber to revive them. Sorry, but I'm unsure how to post cross-thread quotes. So they took them out without any of them using their arms or legs, I recall someone saying they could just have been bound. Same thing really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, NeilSA1 said: Born and bred in South Africa actually. But it is his Canadian education that made him a legend. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, lamyai3 said: The kids are no doubt collectively wondering what was that strange capsule like object they passed on the way out... No chance - the water has zero visibility. If the capsule is not moored properly it will be lost and end up as the only thing missing from the rescue operation... Edited July 10, 2018 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAZZDOG Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, smutcakes said: Yes they reached out to professionals in caving and evacuation and consequently the rescue will hopefully be completed today. The water level remains low despite the rain and as far as we know they are not starved of oxygen. Its a stupid argument but why the hell would the reach out to Elon Musk? Why not Jack Ma? Why not Bill Gates? Why not Jeff Bezos? I will tell you why, because they have zero experience in this type of situation and they required the best of the best to sought the situation out, which is nearly completed by them. As Musk has said himself, and reiterated by the person i charge of the evacuation, whilst sophisticated the mini sub is completely impractical for this type of rescue, which should be pretty clear to see from anyone who has been following the footage and news reports. I am sure as hell Elon Musk knew it was not practical and completely unusable. He would probably have a fit if they actually said they would try to use it! You totally missed the point, this guy engineered and knocked this thing out in a couple days and had it on site. This guy doesn't dick around he gets things done and has connections everywhere. It is very likely if he was onboard just for logistic purposes pumps would have arrived in a couple days that fit the purpose instead of the ineptitude we witnessed where they are still awaiting for the pumps that would have dewatered that hole a week ago to be delivered. Musk would have the correct pumps there by the third day, the kids likely would have walked out a day or two after they were found, the seal might still be alive and all this drama would have been unnecessary The guy runs a huge business and understands when time is of the essence. Comparing the efficiency of the Thai bureaucracy to that of Musk is a joke. Thank God the divers were there to pick up the ball. Give the government credit for figuring they were in way over their heads. Just a shame they couldn't have outsourced the logistics along with the cave diving. No government is a match for private enterprise when you need something done quickly, never! 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, JAZZDOG said: You totally missed the point, this guy engineered and knocked this thing out in a couple days and had it on site. This guy doesn't dick around he gets things done and has connections everywhere. It is very likely if he was onboard just for logistic purposes pumps would have arrived in a couple days that fit the purpose instead of the ineptitude we witnessed where they are still awaiting for the pumps that would have dewatered that hole a week ago to be delivered. Musk would have the correct pumps there by the third day, the kids likely would have walked out a day or two after they were found, the seal might still be alive and all this drama would have been unnecessary The guy runs a huge business and understands when time is of the essence. Comparing the efficiency of the Thai bureaucracy to that of Musk is a joke. Thank God the divers were there to pick up the ball. Give the government credit for figuring they were in way over their heads. Just a shame they couldn't have outsourced the logistics along with the cave diving. No government is a match for private enterprise when you need something done quickly, never! Anyway he had planned a trip to Asia since he today is in China so why shouldnt he use this opportunity to drop by. Who actually cares if it was based on mixed intentions as long as the capsule actually could have been partly used in a emergency situation - partly beacuse it was not suitable for the whole route... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Leopard Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Well Done. Maybe a bit of a PR stunt but still a good effort. At least the batteries wont go on fire in the cave water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, impulse said: No That's true. He has South African, Canadian & American citizenship. Resident in US though. Fixed it for you. That's what the melting pot is all about. About 10% of Americans were born in another country. They're still Americans. And by choice. Which makes me chuckle when I read people bashing the USA. As if there's any other country that more people WANT to move to. I visited. I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: I visited. I left. During the years the US have actually had more visitors than Citizens - With other Words the majority have left…. When it comes to this thread "Elon Musk is INSIDE Tham Luang cave testing rescue sub" should be closed as Elon has not only left the Cave, he has as well left Thailand and is now in China... Edited July 10, 2018 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smileydude Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 I wouldn't diss anybody who did not lend a helping hand as like many had said they don't have the expertise. As for Elon Musk, he is a cutting edge tech guy who likes to use his ingenuity to create new things and in this case the mini sub isn't that ludicrous an idea and could prove useful if one of the kids becomes ill and too weak to move. As for the PR thing, well everything Musk does could be looked at that way, but considering his background and innovative history I'll give him the benefit of the doubt of his sincereness to try to help. Heck the guy flew all the way here himself. Didn't have to. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
africasiaeuro Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Agree Musk did his best. He even showed up himself. This won't be forgotten by the Thais. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 hours ago, smutcakes said: Did he really try and believe that his solution was workable at this late stage? Or is it all a bit of good PR. In showing his willingness to stand behind his tech i suggest that Elon volunteer to test the protoype before the kids in the cave go in it. If its not ready, what is the point in him being here and delivering it? There is no connection whatsoever to those Billies you mentioned.What role did you think they should have played? Most important it is all over now happily? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Kieran00001 said: Oh yes I do, I just haven't found that particular type of joke funny since I was about 8 years old. And was that 80 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, CGW said: 6 hours ago, connda said: Doubt if we'll see this fiasco at Tham Luang again. I would have to agree with that, somehow I don't think cave diving is going to gain popularity among the masses after this is operation is over - completed successfully! ? road and marine fatalities will increase and more than make up for cave entrapment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 4 hours ago, impulse said: If TESLA hadn't raised the bar, the other manufacturers would be years behind where they are now. They have been shamed at their own game by an upstart. I imagine a lot of senior executives were called on the carpet by their boards and investors to answer some tough questions about how they were spanked by a noob. As far as the shorts, they're going to be real disappointed when TESLA gets their line dialed in and starts meeting their production targets. Musk will make that happen if only to stick it to the shorts who have been trying to sabotage TESLA's success so their options are in the money. Even if they don't reach the levels Musk has bragged on, the stock will grow as they get the rest of the infrastructure in place that's needed to support millions of electric cars needing to be topped up. Then, Jaguar, Nissan, et al. will be coming to TESLA begging to team up. Because only a dinosaur believes that electric cars are just about the cars. It's an entire ecosystem. And there's nobody better positioned than TESLA. If your so confident in it then go stick a few bucks on it and go against the market.these people shorting on tesla will be more in the know of you or I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, africasiaeuro said: Agree Musk did his best. He even showed up himself. This won't be forgotten by the Thais. everything is forgotten by the thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FracturedRabbit Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 3 hours ago, lionsincity said: He turns up with something that is utterly useless and starts tweeting. "The US tech billionaire behind SpaceX and Tesla has mounted an impressive PR campaign: developing, testing, and transporting a mini-submarine to the cave system, from where he updated his social media accounts with news of his arrival." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/44755093 The lead British diver didn't think it was useless; but perhaps he was less informed than you... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, atyclb said: everything is forgotten by the thais Sowow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 So I've been smacked for criticising Musk even though I believe in him as a brilliant innovator and entrepreneur, perhaps using the word gratuitous was a mistake. These guys get promotion by default when ever they make statements or appear in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry921 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, happy chappie said: If your so confident in it then go stick a few bucks on it and go against the market.these people shorting on tesla will be more in the know of you or I. The people shorting Tesla are as crazy as those buying the shares long. Right now 29.45% of the floating shares are sold short, that's a hugely crowded short, just asking to be squeezed. The saying is "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent." How can people gamble on when a mania will fade? I agree with them on the direction, but don't think it's wise to bet money on the timing, and you have to be right on both timing and direction to make money shorting stocks. As far as Tesla goes, it's gamblers vs maniacs. I'm staying the heck away from the whole mud fight. I bought some shares long in another auto maker last month that I think is the one best positioned to weather a long trade war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Mickmouse1 said: Thanks mate but it is nearly over!!? You obviously did not count the hours/days Musk spend designing his "invention" to be sure it does work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, colinneil said: 7 hours ago, Bangkok Ape said: Bullsh*t, he's a showman, a marketeer, a used car salesman. Tony Stark lolz, grow up. Have you read how he treats unions and workers? Most of his achievements are vaporware. Showing up here is simply VILE and totally inappropriate. This Tweet sums it up best: "Elon Musk is making a big show of reaching for his wallet after the bill has been paid." The man is at least trying to help, what has been your contribution towards getting the boys out? I found his contribution Colin Edited July 10, 2018 by Andaman Al 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, FracturedRabbit said: The lead British diver didn't think it was useless; but perhaps he was less informed than you... Thank you FR. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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