Lest we forget: Thai media heralds brave diver "Sam" who died as millions donated to his family

[Cake Monster]

On 7/11/2018 at 3:47 PM, Happyman58 said:

Well said Col Aussie way of saying something back to something you don't like and rubbishing a guy who gave his life to save kids is   Shut the f--------ck up mate

We also have an English way of saying the same thing " Shut your Cake Hole "

[Happyman58]

45 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

We also have an English way of saying the same thing " Shut your Cake Hole "

Alf Garnet use to say that lol or was it Stan from On the buses Can you help me here Cake Monster?

[Happyman58]

6 hours ago, fullcave said:

I do believe diving in caves requires specialized training. Was he cave trained or just some cowboy Thai navy seal diver trying to help who got drowned? Condolences to the family, RIP.

Wow, lots of heartless people in this world. I don't think Thai navy seal divers are cowboys You can have all the training in the world and still an accident can happen. He gave his life trying to save those boys Sad day when it comes to this.

[ttrd]

53 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

We also have an English way of saying the same thing " Shut your Cake Hole "

I am not English neither an American  but here you have 101 more:

 

1. Shut Up

2. Shush

3. I will give ten dollars keep quiet

4. Is there any point for this?

5. Is there any mental asylum

6. I am sorry I asked you

7. Okay I get it

8. OMG! Stop Taking!

9. I hope you get cramp in your tongue

10. Do you have cheek bones?

11. The power of Christ compels you.

12. Be Quiet.

13. Shut your mouth

14. Cut it out

15. Shut your pie hole

16. Just knock it off?

17. Blah Blah Blah and Blah-Blah

18. Oh! This history class.

19. Shut your yappers

20. Zip it

21. Silence`

22. Have I annoyed you before?

23. You have a problem...

24. What kind of noise? Is this?

25. Where is the remote? I forgot to press mute

26. Do you talk when you sleep?

27. I also got constitutional right to speak.

28. A year later…

29. Seriously, tell this to some body else!

30. Oh No! I missed Charlie Chaplin movie.

31. Shut your beak!

32. Do you wanna eat?

33. I am going to kick you if you don’t shut up

34. That’s why I do watch daily soaps.

35. You are wasting my time!

36. Besides Talking! What actually you do?

37. I would like to throw my shoe at you if you don't stop talking!

38. So, Have you planned this already?

39. Your hurting my ears!

40. Shut that hole in your face!

41. Is possible to shut your mouth, even for two seconds?

42. Your dad's the energizer bunny isn't he? Because you are keep talking and talking!

43. Oh how I wish I were deaf!

44. My earphone got noise cancellers

45. Your mom must be so proud of your social skills

46. Do you like the sound of your on voice?

47. You are quite a chatter box.

48. Somebody forget to mute that loudspeaker

49. My ears are taunting me!

50. Is that way! You Punish

51. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

52. Do you breathe?

53. I'd hate to hear you in your sleep, no offence.

54. Where is my surgeon knife? I just want to check your vocal chords.

55. That’s why I read summary in the history book.

56. Volume needs to go off.

57. Do me favor! You can do this in front of my enemies.

58. Is it Talk Show. I wanna paid for this.

59. Cut the Crap or I will do it for you.

60. Okay, I love in all, but enough is enough!

61. Umm, not to be rude, but I really don't care!

62. I should have brought a blanket.

63. Do you plan on stopping anytime soon?

64. At this rate, Haley's comet will be here in no time!

65. I think you might break the world record for world longest talker!

66. This is new Gunnies World Record for Talking!

67. Just stop!

68. All I hear is jibber jabber!

69. It just goes in one ear in out the other anyway?

70. Give me S, Give me H, Give me U, Give me T and then add UP!

71. You should get PhD for Talking

72. Oh how I wish I were deaf!

73. Oh to be Helen Keller!

74. Have you drunk magic water?

75. Is pleading really going to be necessary?

76. I check is there any remuneration of damage due to constant hearing

77. Are you practicing for Gold medal in Olympics for Talking?

78. Can I cut you off right there?

79. You know I am just going to forget everything anyway right?

80. I need three tapes to record this much.

81. Hush up!

82. That’s why I love pets. Because they don’t make unnecessary noise.

83. Do you take drugs before you start talking?

84. These telephone operators talk too much.

85. I just about enough of your incessant jabbering!

86. Do you have an off button?

87. Talk to yourself, not me.

88. Talk to my hands, not me.

89. Really? You still want to talk.

90. Your driving me nuts with all the talky!

91. How is it humanly possible to talk that much?

92. I'm sorry what? I routed out the last hour, sorry!

93. Just because you have no life. That doesn't mean I am going to waste mine, listening to you!

94. Could you wrap this up? Please!

95. I think I hear my mom calling.

96. Sorry I got call from my Ex.

97. Happy! Want to say anything more

98. Stop talking to me! Please! I will do anything.

99. Do I need to pay ransom? To zip your mouth.

100. Finished?

101 That’s it.

Edited July 12, 2018 by ttrd

[Happyman58]

1 minute ago, ttrd said:

I am not English but here you have 101 more:

 

1. Shut Up

2. Shush

3. I will give ten dollars keep quiet

4. Is there any point for this?

5. Is there any mental asylum

6. I am sorry I asked you

7. Okay I get it

8. OMG! Stop Taking!

9. I hope you get cramp in your tongue

10. Do you have cheek bones?

11. The power of Christ compels you.

12. Be Quiet.

13. Shut your mouth

14. Cut it out

15. Shut your pie hole

16. Just knock it off?

17. Blah Blah Blah and Blah-Blah

18. Oh! This history class.

19. Shut your yappers

20. Zip it

21. Silence`

22. Have I annoyed you before?

23. You have a problem...

24. What kind of noise? Is this?

25. Where is the remote? I forgot to press mute

26. Do you talk when you sleep?

27. I also got constitutional right to speak.

28. A year later…

29. Seriously, tell this to some body else!

30. Oh No! I missed Charlie Chaplin movie.

31. Shut your beak!

32. Do you wanna eat?

33. I am going to kick you if you don’t shut up

34. That’s why I do watch daily soaps.

35. You are wasting my time!

36. Besides Talking! What actually you do?

37. I would like to throw my shoe at you if you don't stop talking!

38. So, Have you planned this already?

39. Your hurting my ears!

40. Shut that hole in your face!

41. Is possible to shut your mouth, even for two seconds?

42. Your dad's the energizer bunny isn't he? Because you are keep talking and talking!

43. Oh how I wish I were deaf!

44. My earphone got noise cancellers

45. Your mom must be so proud of your social skills

46. Do you like the sound of your on voice?

47. You are quite a chatter box.

48. Somebody forget to mute that loudspeaker

49. My ears are taunting me!

50. Is that way! You Punish

51. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

52. Do you breathe?

53. I'd hate to hear you in your sleep, no offence.

54. Where is my surgeon knife? I just want to check your vocal chords.

55. That’s why I read summary in the history book.

56. Volume needs to go off.

57. Do me favor! You can do this in front of my enemies.

58. Is it Talk Show. I wanna paid for this.

59. Cut the Crap or I will do it for you.

60. Okay, I love in all, but enough is enough!

61. Umm, not to be rude, but I really don't care!

62. I should have brought a blanket.

63. Do you plan on stopping anytime soon?

64. At this rate, Haley's comet will be here in no time!

65. I think you might break the world record for world longest talker!

66. This is new Gunnies World Record for Talking!

67. Just stop!

68. All I hear is jibber jabber!

69. It just goes in one ear in out the other anyway?

70. Give me S, Give me H, Give me U, Give me T and then add UP!

71. You should get PhD for Talking

72. Oh how I wish I were deaf!

73. Oh to be Helen Keller!

74. Have you drunk magic water?

75. Is pleading really going to be necessary?

76. I check is there any remuneration of damage due to constant hearing

77. Are you practicing for Gold medal in Olympics for Talking?

78. Can I cut you off right there?

79. You know I am just going to forget everything anyway right?

80. I need three tapes to record this much.

81. Hush up!

82. That’s why I love pets. Because they don’t make unnecessary noise.

83. Do you take drugs before you start talking?

84. These telephone operators talk too much.

85. I just about enough of your incessant jabbering!

86. Do you have an off button?

87. Talk to yourself, not me.

88. Talk to my hands, not me.

89. Really? You still want to talk.

90. Your driving me nuts with all the talky!

91. How is it humanly possible to talk that much?

92. I'm sorry what? I routed out the last hour, sorry!

93. Just because you have no life. That doesn't mean I am going to waste mine, listening to you!

94. Could you wrap this up? Please!

95. I think I hear my mom calling.

96. Sorry I got call from my Ex.

97. Happy! Want to say anything more

98. Stop talking to me! Please! I will do anything.

99. Do I need to pay ransom? To zip your mouth.

100. Finished?

101 That’s it.

lol lol lol lol lol

 

[Mark mark]

On 7/11/2018 at 10:54 AM, Mark mark said:

What a REAL Hero ! He went there, retired, and at an older age, and he did it.

 

A Very Unfortunate accident. It looks like the Tanks may have got mixed up ? ... I am no expert, an armature diver of oh 45 dives and YES, it gets much Harder, as you get older if you do not do it every day ! ...

 

I think that you can tell how much compressed air is in a tank, by how heavy it is ? ... Like your buoyancy changed markedly as the tank becomes empty I think, particularly if it is a steel one ? I think ? .... I think that there are Fiber ? Tanks and steal Tanks, and the steal ones are much heavier that the fiber ones ? ... 

 

Just a realy REALLY tragic accident !!! ...

 

...  Still he will be remembered and for a long time ! ... and possibly a very long time, (What else do we have after Death ?) .... Like probably a Monument at the cave for him ! ? .... So remembered and by his decedents, ...  for ever really ...

This above, was probably VERY Incorrect statement from me, sorry,   (To be able to delete it would be good ?)  ...

 

After thinking about it, it would seem, and also reading the Thai Seals press release, that Sam did the right thing, the tanks were not mixed up, and also re other posts, he had enough air when he started his mission almost certainly, though possibly only with the extra margin, for good conditions ?  …

 

But he had to go all the way, and could really, only come back after reaching the boys, … So this gave him a lot less Flexibility, ….  And then as the conditions got worse, with what they described, as a flash Flood, … The water level must have risen, as the flow picked up, …  and flowing through those tight spots, it would be a real bastard to swim against !  ... 

…  And he used up all of his air, struggling against it, or the conditions on his trip back. RIP Sam. A good Professional diver, ... gone in to a cave.

A Hero, from start to end.  No question. As everyone agrees to also.  And as the harder men that are divers say, not our place to comment anyway, sitting in our very dry chairs.

…  So the extra air that should that should have been included, for unforeseen circumstances, ? This could be discussed possibly, ? ... And a better standard used in Future, ? In very big and unreliable stream passage caves, in the wet season, but well this factor is not finite, it must vary with the conditions in the cave, and well how to predict them.  ?

 

I had better get off all of these Good Threads now, ...

 

A Job VERY WELL Done People.  ...  A Great Job, well done.

 

Thanks from a Waffley Old Caver.
 

Edited July 12, 2018 by Mark mark
Improved slightly

[Panda13]

On 7/11/2018 at 11:00 AM, ba ba said:

If only he had checked  how much air he had in his tank before setting out on that final trip he would be with us 

Edited July 12, 2018 by Panda13

[Stargeezr]

I am very happy that all those brave men and women took part in this rescue and saved

the dozen boys and the coach. Sam is a hero who died while doing his part in saving the

team. RIP.  Trying to criticize how any one of them performed is not something wize to do,

concidering how any of us commenters could have do as much. Yes there were women involved,

maybe they did not go far into the cave, but they helped in many ways, and not just sat around like

all of us commenters.

Geezer

[ttrd]

37 minutes ago, Panda13 said:

Are you not expecting a little too much? Unfortunately, it seems like some of us first need to practice basic  thinking prior to enter the next level -  critical thinking...

Edited July 12, 2018 by ttrd

[Happyman58]

1 hour ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

I am very happy that all those brave men and women took part in this rescue and saved

the dozen boys and the coach. Sam is a hero who died while doing his part in saving the

team. RIP.  Trying to criticize how any one of them performed is not something wize to do,

concidering how any of us commenters could have do as much. Yes there were women involved,

maybe they did not go far into the cave, but they helped in many ways, and not just sat around like

all of us commenters.

Geezer

4

Geezer was teamwork and they got the job done that all that matters. You know after all the fanfare alms down they will look into it and see the mistakes but that happens in every rescue attempt Mistakes are made Was reading a story on the Munich massacre in 1972 when terrorists took Israeli hostages at Olympic games  Then it was called the West German government and they made heaps of mistakes trying to rescue those Jews  Biggest one they made when Israel offered them help to get those Jews out and the West German Gov said no So I say well-done everybody and great result for Thailand

[billd766]

9 hours ago, Mark mark said:

This above, was probably VERY Incorrect statement from me, sorry,   (To be able to delete it would be good ?)  ...

 

snip>

…  So the extra air that should that should have been included, for unforeseen circumstances, ? This could be discussed possibly, ? ... And a better standard used in Future, ? In very big and unreliable stream passage caves, in the wet season, but well this factor is not finite, it must vary with the conditions in the cave, and well how to predict them.  ?

 

I had better get off all of these Good Threads now, ...

 

A Job VERY WELL Done People.  ...  A Great Job, well done.

 

Thanks from a Waffley Old Caver.
 

 

That is exactly the problem with unforeseen circumstances. It is impossible to plan for every circumstance or they would probably still be there now and still in the planning stage and the boys still in the cave.

 

At some point you have to draw the line and go for it and if something unforeseen happens then you have to work with it or around it and flag it up for attention for the next time. 

 

Remember if a plan goes to plan for the first 15 minutes it was a good plan.

 

All of the team, including the 1,xxx supporters have my thanks and admiration.

 

I know I couldn't have done it.

[cnx355]

On ‎7‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:07 AM, ThreeEyedRaven said:

I think that is quite a harsh statement to make. How do you know he did not check? It may well be he thought he had enough, but was delayed in the conditions. None of us know the circumstances he faced. He was trying to do a very difficult and dangerous task, and to suggest he died through being careless is quite callous.

We know he died  as a hero participating in a dangerous rescue operation but technically we may never really know why. As far as the published information we have,  there was no autopsy, and possibly no official enquiry to check his equipment such as the  air regulator and the air quality in the bottle he was using. Those are usual procedures in diving accident. RIP to Officer Sam  !

[Cake Monster]

23 hours ago, Happyman58 said:

Alf Garnet use to say that lol or was it Stan from On the buses Can you help me here Cake Monster?

I think it was Alf - but not sure.

Alf was a long time ago and my memory is getting bad sometimes.

Maybe somebody else can clarify ?