Elon Musk apologises to British caver for 'pedo' slur

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Elon Musk apologises to British caver for 'pedo' slur

 

 

Elon Musk has apologised for calling a British diver involved in the rescue of Mu Pa boys trapped in a cave in Chiang Rai a “paedo.”

 

He spoke today after facing widespread criticism and requests from Tesla investors to say sorry to Vernon Unsworth who said rescue submarine being built by Musk was a ‘PR stunt’.

 

In response, Musk described Unsworth as ‘paedo guy’. Unsworth who is still in Thailand has now been contacted by lawyers in the UK and U.S. wanting to represent him.

 

‘My words were spoken in anger after Mr Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub, which had been built as an act of kindness & according to specifications from the dive team leader. 

 

“‘Nonetheless, his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone. ‘I am truly sorry if I offended anyone.’

 

Unsworth is among top cave divers who joined the rescue mission for the Mu Pa Academy footballers and their assistant coach trapped inside Tham Luang cave in Mae Sai district.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30350306

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-07-18

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Tesla's Musk apologises for his comments on British caver

 

FILE PHOTO: British caver Vern Unsworth talks during Reuters interview at a hotel, in the northern province of Chiang Rai, Thailand, July 17, 2018. REUTERS/Soe Zeya Tun/

 

(Reuters) - Tesla Inc <TSLA.O> founder Elon Musk apologised to British caver Vern Unsworth for comments he made about him following the rescue of a dozen Thai schoolboys and their football coach from a cave in northern Thailand.

 

FILE PHOTO: Elon Musk listens at a press conference following the first launch of a SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket at the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, Florida, U.S., February 6, 2018. REUTERS/Joe Skipper/File Photo

 

"His actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader," Musk said in a tweet. "The fault is mine and mine alone."

 

Unsworth, who played a leading role in the rescue, said on Tuesday that he has been approached by British and American lawyers and will seek legal advice after Musk directed abuse at him on Twitter.

 

(Reporting by Rishika Chatterjee in Bengaluru; Editing by Raju Gopalakrishnan)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-07-18

[chrisinth]

Looks like a lot of sincerity in that apology.

 

Almost. Nah, joking, none at all.

[sanemax]

Well done Musk .

Accept it Vern and shake hands let bygones be bygones

[JustAnotherFarang]

That's not an apology.......that's the blame game. Essentially he is saying that Vern told lies and hurt his feelings about his little sub so this is why he slurred Verns good name and character by calling him a pedo.  He knows its wrong now but it is Verns fault he said it................

 

Elon would fit right in with the locals way of thinking

 

JAF

Edited July 18, 2018 by JustAnotherFarang

[les Dennis]

Amazing that, his stock goes down 3.5 per cent and he musters up a half @rsed apology

[Brunolem]

Money talks...until investors' money talks louder...

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

That's not an apology.......that's the blame game.

How can you suggest that Musk stating that "its all my fault and my fault alone" is blaming someone else ?

[JLCrab]

So next move up to Mr. Vern, I guess.

[Eligius]

This is not a generous-spirited 'apology'. It almost spins out the conflict by calling Vern's comment 'a sexual act'. Musk seems obsessed with sex and accusing others of inappropriate sex.

 

If Musk had said something like, 'I was angry at comments Vern made, but I reacted in a totally unjustified and childish way, and I deeply apologise for impugning the character of a man who has been crucial in rescuing so many human lives. Again - I give the biggest apology possible to a man who deserves great respect, and I want everyone to know that there is not one ounce of truth in the slur that I cast on Vern's character.'

 

THAT would be an apology - not Musk's peevish little, spoilt-brat pretence of a 'sorry'.

 

Edited July 18, 2018 by Eligius

[coulson]

Counter apology and a hush settlement is the most efficient way forward.

 

The terminology identified in the apology shows how complicated this could be to fight.

[Myran]

No, no, no, no, no. There has to be a picture with someone pointing before it counts as an apology.

[JustAnotherFarang]

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

How can you suggest that Musk stating that "its all my fault and my fault alone" is blaming someone else ?

If you read the whole post instead of just the beginning you would see why I think he is playing the blame game. 

 

Maybe if someone slurred your character and "good" name by calling you a pedo and then you found that these slurs are published online for all to see you might not be so willing to advise, as suggested in your previous post, to just accept it and then just walk away.

 

JAF

[spidermike007]

This very small man, gave what I would interpret as a half hearted, Trump (he never has apologized in his life, that I am aware of, not in his DNA) style apology. Not sincere. He was pressured into it, after realizing the power of an insult. His shares were dropping, investors were getting worried about his sanity, and there was an outcry from around the world. I have lost all respect for Musk. He is a half man. A creative man, but a fabulously unimpressive human being.

[darksidedog]

Sounds like a forced apology, as he is still obviously pissed about where to put the sub remark, but fair enough. He has said sorry and hopefully, that will now be the end of the matter. Were Vernon to have the grace to say sorry for his comment (not about the subs usefulness, just its suggested parking place), also, all should be well.

[from the home of CC]

this 'apology' was just as far as his ego would permit him

[JustAnotherFarang]

1 minute ago, darksidedog said:

Sounds like a forced apology, as he is still obviously pissed about where to put the sub remark, but fair enough. He has said sorry and hopefully, that will now be the end of the matter. Were Vernon to have the grace to say sorry for his comment also, all should be well.

Really ??  You think Vern should apologise to him............... how can you possibly think that Verns opinion of Elons sub is in any way similar to Elons slur on Verns character.  There is a world of difference but somehow you have failed to see that for yourself.

 

JAF

[Darcula]

It's not an apology unless he wai's the victim on local TV. Just remember to bring a baseball hat and large sunglasses.

[JLCrab]

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

<snip> He was pressured into it, after realizing the power of an insult. His shares were dropping, investors were getting worried about his sanity, and there was an outcry from around the world.

Mr. Musk has been dealing with a group of dissident shareholders who want to remove him as CEO since long before the Thai cave incident.

Edited July 18, 2018 by JLCrab

[stanleycoin]

And they all lived happily ever after.  for now !!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

 

[mok199]

this is Jerry Springer material...stop the insanity ''he said ,she said ''...

[dcsw53]

Best solution I can see is that Vern accepts his apology on condition that Musk confirms he never thought Vern was a pedo ( sic ) makes a substantial donation to the fund for the poor ex-Seal who died during the rescue. Will be peanuts to Musk but Vern's honour stays intact and no one profits.

[lamyai3]

His apology is worded to state he was deeply offended by Vern's suggestion that he perform a sexual act with the sub(pository). This wording is most likely deliberate, perhaps to form some sort of defence in case Vern moved ahead with legal action. The apology seems to be a result of a written demand from the major Tesla shareholders, and given the trouble his clumsy tweets have already caused the wording would almost certainly have been vetted by his lawyers. 

[sanemax]

17 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

If you read the whole post instead of just the beginning you would see why I think he is playing the blame game. 

 

Maybe if someone slurred your character and "good" name by calling you a pedo and then you found that these slurs are published online for all to see you might not be so willing to advise, as suggested in your previous post, to just accept it and then just walk away.

 

JAF

I did read the whole post .

Musk just gave his reasons as to why he got angry and accepted that he alone was to blame for his actions and apologised .

   I do feel that is acceptable and time to put an end to it .

We've all been called names online before

[chrisinth]

24 minutes ago, Eligius said:

This is not a generous-spirited 'apology'. It almost spins out the conflict by calling Vern's comment 'a sexual act'. Musk seems obsessed with sex and accusing others of inappropriate sex.

 

If Musk had said something like, 'I was angry at comments Vern made, but I reacted in a totally unjustified and childish way, and I deeply apologise for impugning the character of a man who has been crucial in rescuing so many human lives. Again - I give the biggest apology possible to a man who deserves great respect, and I want everyone to know that there is not one ounce of truth in the slur that I cast on Vern's character.'

 

THAT would be an apology - not Musk's peevish little, spoilt-brat pretence of a 'sorry'.

 

If it was a sincere apology why would he add the last part, worded like that:

 

".... and to the companies I represent as leader"

 

That's the bit that gets me, grovelling to the shareholders, no need for that at all IMO in a personal apology.

[sanemax]

Just now, chrisinth said:

If it was a sincere apology why would he add the last part, worded like that:

".... and to the companies I represent as leader"

That's the bit that gets me, grovelling to the shareholders, no need for that at all IMO in a personal apology.

Musk upset all the people involved in his Companies , and so he also opologised to them as well 

[55Jay]

33 minutes ago, les Dennis said:

Amazing that, his stock goes down 3.5 per cent and he musters up a half @rsed apology

TSLA closed + $12.59.  You really think a stupid comment by a fat mouth Brit in CM and an equally stupid response from Musk, is going to get in the way of MONEY?  ?

[Krungbin]

This "apology" is the very least the chatacter can/could offer... No further comment needed.

[lamyai3]

13 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

If it was a sincere apology why would he add the last part, worded like that:

 

".... and to the companies I represent as leader"

 

That's the bit that gets me, grovelling to the shareholders, no need for that at all IMO in a personal apology.

The shareholders demanded the apology... 

 

[Inepto Cracy]

It all boils down to the age old saying. Sticks and stones can break my bones, but, chains and whips exite me.

Oh the last line should read, words can never hurt me.

Act like adults please lads. Thank you.