varun Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Vacuum said: BS. Had they been ordinary somchais without the money these two have, they'd been kicked out long time ago. Exactly. Any Somchai/Somphong/Sommai wife-beater/wife-killer would be out on his ear in no time. Edited August 1, 2018 by varun 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Yingluk in a Thai jail is a much bigger headache for the Junta than her out of sight out of mind abroad. Thai authorities are doing it for show. And the UK does not extradite people to countries run by the army who has forcibly takes over the government from a democratically elected government in an illegal coup. That the Junta sees itself as having the legitimacy to even request this provides a window into the minds of the generals.So true their 3 rd gen Ancestors would have shot them.Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 3 hours ago, BobBKK said: "Indeed. Removed by a Court for an illegal abuse of power." what utter nonsense Pray tell me why that is nonsense. Quote On 7 May 2014, the Constitutional Court of Thailand removed Yingluck Shinawatra from the office of caretaker prime ministerand defence minister following months of political crisis. The court found her guilty of charges of abuse of power over the removal of national security chief Thawil Pliensri in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 7/31/2018 at 9:43 AM, Justgrazing said: Not withstanding she was granted a 10 yr visa by UK only in May .. And how much are they prepared to put out , legal fee's in Brit' land are withering for this sort of scrap .. It was not a visa for a permanent stay, but allowed her to stay 6months in the UK per year during a 10 year period - With other Words they can meet in the middle by combinate the visa and jail terms. 6 months in the UK and 6 months at Hilton BKK per year means she will finish her jailterm when the visa expire and she will be free as a bird and ready to focus on and to improve her rice business on a fulltime basis…. Edited August 1, 2018 by ttrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Off topic posts about Tommie Robinson and Julian Assange and the replies have been removed. A post advocating assassination and the replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 3:48 AM, from the home of CC said: Window dressing, Thailand doesn't want to create a martyr. Better to stay outta sight outta mind. I have to agree, the junta would really not have her speak to the Thai public. I'm not so sure the English government feels that the junta represents the rightful government of Thailand either, in which case they may feel any request made by the junta is mute until such time an official election has been held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilcar Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 "The embassy also asked that its request be “kept strictly confidential and executed as a matter of urgency”. So this is keeping something strictly confidential.....hmmmmm 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 'The Royal Thai Embassy ... has the honour to refer to the treaty between the United Kingdom and Siam respecting the Extradition of Fugitive Criminals of 1911.' Didn't realise she was that old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, chama said: I have to agree, the junta would really not have her speak to the Thai public. I'm not so sure the English government feels that the junta represents the rightful government of Thailand either, in which case they may feel any request made by the junta is mute until such time an official election has been held. Beware of Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland. It's the British government. Edited August 1, 2018 by Jonmarleesco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 ""OFFICIAL GUIDELINES to prevent the torture and abuse of people in custody are being drawn up as part of a joint operation between the Thai Justice Ministry and the Association for the Prevention of Torture (APT), an international NGO. "The Thai Embassy in London has submitted a request to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office of the British government for the extradition of fugitive former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra to serve her five-year jail term handed down by the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Persons Holding Political Positions " Two headlines, which when considered together rather point to the extradition request being refused... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 2:38 PM, Raymonddiaz said: UK will never extradite her because they don't believe in thai justice system. The so called justice by the people who did a bigger crime: Coup d'état. You know this how?? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booboo101 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 This won’t happen, she only has to say her life will be in danger if she is returned to Thailand and that will be the end of it, England is full of murderers and terrorists from far flung Countries, they only have to say, what about my human rights and the British Government say, that’s OK you can stay, we’ll give you a free house and a monthly income ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, Booboo101 said: This won’t happen, she only has to say her life will be in danger if she is returned to Thailand and that will be the end of it, England is full of murderers and terrorists from far flung Countries, they only have to say, what about my human rights and the British Government say, that’s OK you can stay, we’ll give you a free house and a monthly income ! I somehow doubt she is dividing her time between the DSS and her local Council's homeless unit, desperately trying to claw back the bus fares. From Knightsbridge. I might be wrong, but somehow I don't think so... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 2:15 PM, webfact said: The embassy also asked that its request be “kept strictly confidential Well that part failed miserably . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Vacuum said: BS. Had they been ordinary somchais without the money these two have, they'd been kicked out long time ago. Ordinary Somchais don't get elected PM nor have to undergo political trials. You need to read up more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 5633572526 Posted August 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 2:26 PM, BestB said: This is going to be interesting . Shouid UK refuse, then Thailand would be refusing in the future. Shoud UK refuse on political grounds , UK will need to issue her with asylum visa and for her to prove her position. Thailand will not refuse in the future because people wanted by western nations are genuine criminals and Thailand does not want them. Yingluck is a victim of a treasonous political coup and no democratic government will extradite a legitimately elected government official to an illegitimate junta 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileydude Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 YS will never remain in any one place long enough to be extradited. She’s already flown off to Lord Voldemort’s favorite haven, Dubai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Dont think shes wanted in Dubai Cheap Labour 800k have left.Economy crash , no job for her at 7/11 anymore.Juesus is she thick.!!Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 If they cannot get a murderer extradited, what chance with a "political lack of judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3NUMBAS Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 orders of the junta ..it wont happen UK dont support juntas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upu2 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 2:43 PM, Justgrazing said: Not withstanding she was granted a 10 yr visa by UK only in May .. And how much are they prepared to put out , legal fee's in Brit' land are withering for this sort of scrap .. They will consider the request made by Thailand and then find a reason to reject it. Of course it will all be politically correct but the end result will be the same i.e. sorry but wont extradite her back to Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whip Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 2:26 PM, BestB said: This is going to be interesting . Shouid UK refuse, then Thailand would be refusing in the future. Shoud UK refuse on political grounds , UK will need to issue her with asylum visa and for her to prove her position. I thought that she bought British citizenship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 The authorities here don't seem to have a clue how extradition works in the UK Thailand, being a category 2 territory, the bones of the procedure is: Quote Requests from these territories need decisions by both the Secretary of State and the courts. The extradition process to these territories follows these steps: extradition request is made to the Secretary of State Secretary of State decides whether to certify the request judge decides whether to issue a warrant for arrest the person wanted is arrested and brought before the court preliminary hearing extradition hearing Secretary of State decides whether to order extradition Should it ever get to an 'extradition hearing' : Quote The judge must be satisfied that the conduct amounts to an extradition offence (dual criminality), none of the bars to extradition apply, where applicable, there is prima facie evidence of guilt (in accusation cases), and whether extradition would breach the person’s human rights. 'Dual criminality' means the offence has to be a criminal offence in the country requested for extradition. All the details are freely available. I wonder if anyone in authority has checked the futility of it all. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/extradition-processes-and-review#extradition-from-the-uk-category-2-territories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odysseus123 Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 5 hours ago, HHTel said: The authorities here don't seem to have a clue how extradition works in the UK Thailand, being a category 2 territory, the bones of the procedure is: Should it ever get to an 'extradition hearing' : 'Dual criminality' means the offence has to be a criminal offence in the country requested for extradition. All the details are freely available. I wonder if anyone in authority has checked the futility of it all. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/extradition-processes-and-review#extradition-from-the-uk-category-2-territories Yes,it may be futile but that is not the point as this sort of stuff is for domestic consumption only. They get a two for one propaganda "hit" for their activity.. Naughty Yingluck, et al, Naughty UK for denying the request as well. (But the mighty Shangri-Larians, source of hope and a shining beacon for the whole planet-will prevail in the end)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacebass Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 What about the Red Bull heir ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 7 hours ago, spacebass said: What about the Red Bull heir ? Who? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 1:36 PM, Baerboxer said: Actually she was there for most of her trial. Just legged it before the verdict. Your not really there in a Kangaroo Court. But u knew that BB. What is the outcome to the rice that was held in warehouses, not your factual delivery but the outcome that is a real one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 1:35 PM, Baerboxer said: Indeed. Removed by a Court for an illegal abuse of power. Which was instructed by the General and his committees. But u knew that BB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 1:32 PM, Baerboxer said: She was correctly found guilty. But as usual running off, a family trait, is permitted. Her case was selectively progressed but that doesn't make her innocent. So what was the outcome of the forensic audit of the warehouses; ah it wasn't done. So why was this court case fast tracked compared with normal trial cases in Thailand? But u knew all this BB. BB from your posts I am reading u way in over your head leading with right wing diatribe over a legal matter that you have applied little investigation into or have no understanding to a legal process. As Hun Sen said after winning the election: "Thank you, dear compatriots, for casting your votes today! You did choose the democratic way and used your right as stipulated in the constitution, the supreme law of the country," he said after the vote, according to Cambodian state media. Cambodia has been a nominal democracy since 1993, following decades of war and conflict. "A victory without a contest is a hollow one," exiled opposition leader Sam Rainsy said in a Facebook post Sunday. "For the first time in the 25 years since the elections organized by the United Nations in 1993, Cambodia lacks a legitimate government recognized by the international community ... Denied a real choice, the vast majority of the Cambodian people have refused to participate in this sham election." CNN July 30 2018. When I read your posts I am reminded of what has happened in Cambodia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgver Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Guess that the Embassy miss out Article 5 without reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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