Does it matter if your name is in the greenbook?

[Lef22]

Apologies if this has been touched upon elsewhere, but having searched a while I couldn’t find an answer for my particular predicament.

 

my question: I have a scooter and the greenbook for it but am unable to transfer it to my name due to incomplete paperwork. Is this something that could cause me issues if I were to be stopped by the police,

or would they be satisfied with just the greenbook regardless of whose name it’s in?

 

I have have been driving this bike for a couple of years in the province without much issue, but now I’m in Bangkok I want to get legal, so plan to get my licence and tax soon.

 

thanks

[johng]

You can get a license and tax the bike no problems...but your name not in the book means its not "legally" yours...you can keep the bike forever but may have problems selling it on.

[Lef22]

11 minutes ago, johng said:

You can get a license and tax the bike no problems...but your name not in the book means its not "legally" yours...you can keep the bike forever but may have problems selling it on.

 

I’m not too worried about selling it on: it’s not a particularly valuable bike but serves my needs well.

 

I just want to make sure that my name not being in the book isn’t something the police could ‘fine’ me for.

[Nickymaster]

First thing you should do is renew road tax and insurance.  You will have to pay the tax from the last date it was paid so it could go back a few years. If the bike is 5 years old it needs to be checked (like MOT in the UK) . This can be done at many places.  They will give you a piece of paper. You take it with the green book to the DLT. Pay tax and insurance and you are good to go.

[KhunBENQ]

So many drive in cars/motorbikes on finance and are not in the book.

(Long term) rentals, commercial vehicles...

Like in other countries people can buy a vehicle who do not have a driving license and not intend to drive it.

 

Why should you have a problem?

Of course you can not sell the motorbike.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

I had for years a 400cc bike in Bangkok which was not in my name.

I bough it and I received the green book and all the signed documents to transfer the bike to a new owner.

But I never transferred it to my name or anybody else name.

Every year the guy who serviced my bike took care of tax and insurance.

Years later I sold the bike and I gave the new owner (a guy in a motorcycle shop) the green book and the signed documents which I received.

The new owner accepted it like that, he didn't even mention it. It seems it was just standard procedure.

Maybe the bike is still officially in the name of the owner from 10 years ago...

 

[user343434]

Just have a copy under the seat and you are fine.. All motorbikes even a Harley have been on my wife's name and the copy of the green book is enough.

It actually confirms the ownership and not who is driving it. 

[user343434]

Just now, OneMoreFarang said:

I had for years a 400cc bike in Bangkok which was not in my name.

I bough it and I received the green book and all the signed documents to transfer the bike to a new owner.

But I never transferred it to my name or anybody else name.

Every year the guy who serviced my bike took care of tax and insurance.

Years later I sold the bike and I gave the new owner (a guy in a motorcycle shop) the green book and the signed documents which I received.

The new owner accepted it like that, he didn't even mention it. It seems it was just standard procedure.

Maybe the bike is still officially in the name of the owner from 10 years ago...

 

yes, beside that,

when I buy a new bike the cash in and all transfer formalities will be done as long you have the original green book.

The green book is "required" to have with you but a copy is accepted in case of theft, then the original green book is like a giveaway ticket.

[Lef22]

24 minutes ago, Nickymaster said:

First thing you should do is renew road tax and insurance.  You will have to pay the tax from the last date it was paid so it could go back a few years. If the bike is 5 years old it needs to be checked (like MOT in the UK) . This can be done at many places.  They will give you a piece of paper. You take it with the green book to the DLT. Pay tax and insurance and you are good to go.

 

Would any regular motorbike repair shop do for the MOT? And how would I ask for that? (Unfortunately I don’t speak Thai).

 

thanks

[jackdd]

7 minutes ago, Lef22 said:

 

Would any regular motorbike repair shop do for the MOT? And how would I ask for that? (Unfortunately I don’t speak Thai).

 

thanks

You have to go to a place with this sign:

[KhunBENQ]

13 minutes ago, jackdd said:

You have to go to a place with this sign:

And only these.

They are NOT repair shops.

 

Drive to such a place with the bike and the book and I think they will understand what the problem/task is.

It's their sole job to do inspections and handle tax/insurance for a fee.

You will have to hand the book to the shop and pick it up later.

Likely next working day.

You can wait for the vehicle inspection/test and drive away with the bike. Still not legal of course until book and sticker come back.

 

What is your current location (district/subdistrict level)?

Maybe I can find a pointer to such a shop.

Edited August 7, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[duanebigsby]

The only problems that occur would be if  the bike was registered in another province.

Then you absolutely need all the transfer documents.

[jackdd]

4 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

The only problems that occur would be if  the bike was registered in another province.

Then you absolutely need all the transfer documents.

To do what?

[duanebigsby]

4 minutes ago, jackdd said:

To do what?

It would need to be put in your name before you could buy the insurance and  legally ride it.

 

[Lef22]

13 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

It would need to be put in your name before you could buy the insurance and  legally ride it.

 

I last taxed and insured the bike in Chonburi province a couple of years ago, and now live in Bangkok, so would this be a problem?

 

I don’t know where the bike was registered previously, although I bought it in Bangkok.

Edited August 7, 2018 by Lef22

[jackdd]

16 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

It would need to be put in your name before you could buy the insurance and  legally ride it.

 

That's not true

[Lef22]

38 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

And only these.

They are NOT repair shops.

 

Drive to such a place with the bike and the book and I think they will understand what the problem/task is.

It's their sole job to do inspections and handle tax/insurance for a fee.

You will have to hand the book to the shop and pick it up later.

Likely next working day.

You can wait for the vehicle inspection/test and drive away with the bike. Still not legal of course until book and sticker come back.

 

What is your current location (district/subdistrict level)?

Maybe I can find a pointer to such a shop.

 

So the mot, tax and insurance can be sorted out completely at this shop, without going to the DLT?

 

I’m currently in Bang Na area.

[KhunBENQ]

26 minutes ago, Lef22 said:

So the mot, tax and insurance can be sorted out completely at this shop, without going to the DLT? 

Yes that's the normal case.

From what you describe there is no need to go yourself.

The shop takes a fee for handling.

Won't brake the bank.

 

Bang Na district (ket) of Bangkok?

Edited August 7, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[jackdd]

3 minutes ago, Lef22 said:

 

So the mot, tax and insurance can be sorted out completely at this shop, without going to the DLT?

 

I’m currently in Bang Na area.

At this shop you can get tho mot, that's their job ?

Usually they can also sell you the compulsary insurance (por ror bor)

Then you have to take the papers that you get from them together with the green book to your local DLT to pay the tax and get the sticker.

For a fee they might offer to go to the DLT for you.

[KhunBENQ]

1 minute ago, jackdd said:

For a fee they might offer to go to the DLT for you.

Which many might prefer.

[Peterw42]

4 minutes ago, jackdd said:

At this shop you can get tho mot, that's their job ?

Usually they can also sell you the compulsary insurance (por ror bor)

Then you have to take the papers that you get from them together with the green book to your local DLT to pay the tax and get the sticker.

For a fee they might offer to go to the DLT for you.

Whenever I have used the yellow cog agents they have always arranged the tax and sticker etc, inspection/documents one day and a phone call the next day to come and pick up the sticker. Otherwise whats the point of using them if a trip to the DLT is still required.

[KhunBENQ]

5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Otherwise whats the point of using them if a trip to the DLT is still required.

Only point is that you HAVE to go there for the vehicle inspection/test (bike older 5 years).

Not done at the DLT.

 

To the OP :

a couple of inspection shops in the Bang Na district.

One on Lassale, Soi 43.

One on Srinagarindra rd. (terrible transcript).

Both south of the expressway.

Which fits better?

 

Edited August 7, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[Peterw42]

4 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Only point is that you HAVE to go there for the vehicle inspection/test (bike older 5 years).

Not done at the DLT.

Ok thanks, but as I said I have never come across one that then sends you to the DLT to pay, get sticker etc.

[duanebigsby]

36 minutes ago, jackdd said:

That's not true

For out of province it is.

Happened to me.

[jackdd]

2 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

For out of province it is.

Happened to me.

What happened to you?

[duanebigsby]

4 minutes ago, jackdd said:

What happened to you?

They would not allow me to buy insurance until I got the bike transferred from Chonburi province to Chiang Rai, greenbook from previous owner to my name and new license plate.

Edited August 7, 2018 by duanebigsby

[johng]

11 hours ago, duanebigsby said:

They would not allow me to buy insurance until I got the bike transferred from Chonburi province to Chiang Rai, greenbook from previous owner to my name and new license plate.

I'm pretty sure you are "confused" about something here...anyone in any province can buy the compulsory insurance..no mater what province the number plates come from and your name doesn't have to be in the book to do so...where you trying to buy insurance at the Department of Land Transportation  ???

[duanebigsby]

24 minutes ago, johng said:

I'm pretty sure you are "confused" about something here...anyone in any province can buy the compulsory insurance..no mater what province the number plates come from and your name doesn't have to be in the book to do so...where you trying to buy insurance at the Department of Land Transportation  ???

Yes, because no one else would sell it to me as I had the old number plate with the red stripe.

In order to get the new number plate, I needed to go to the Department of Transport where they insisted my name to be in the green book.

Edited August 8, 2018 by duanebigsby

[johng]

2 minutes ago, duanebigsby said:

Yes, because no one else would sell it to me as I had the old number plate with the red stripe.

Well that's something new I never heard of before !

 

 

[harrry]

12 hours ago, duanebigsby said:

It would need to be put in your name before you could buy the insurance and  legally ride it.

 

Once true but not now