Popular Post sirineou Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: Stopped him getting out and doing it again Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Sure does ,i death seems to stop most people from doing most things, but the death penalty did not stop him,and does not stop others all research indicates and this case proves, but it does make people like you feel better so it has some redeeming value. IMO making you feel better is not worth the down side. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, ivor bigun said: Thrown away the key? You know that in Britain he would live a quite decent life watching tv .doing the gym, 3 meals a day nice and wsrm ,medical help and out in 20 years .no kill the scum and unlike you my heart will not bleed Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Ah, the “gaol is a luxury” argument... Where do you get the notion my heart is bleeding? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 It’s about time just wish he felt the pain and terror that poor kid felt 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Ah, the “gaol is a luxury” argument... Where do you get the notion my heart is bleeding? It is not that bad,believe me reallySent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: It is not that bad,believe me really Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No idea what that means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross163103 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 33 years?! Give me a break! There's something seriously wrong with this system when a person sentenced to death gets to live this long. The girl he raped and murdered only got to live 7 years because of him! Singapore has got their death penalty procedures right. Bring on the liberal comments. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, sirineou said: It all depends what one considers reciprocal punishment, If one considers reciprocal punishment ending ones miserable life and dispatching him to the peaceful slumber of death and in the process spending millions of dollars to do it then YES, others might think that throwing him in a dark hole, depriving of all liberty and exposing him to the pleasures afforded to pedophiles in jail for the rest of his life , to be a more appropriate punisment since he has already done it, No deterrent for him No it was not, it never stooped him from doing it. No, but it has certainly stopped him from ever doing it again. We all hear of "life imprisonment" being given as an alternative punishment for a serious crime, but in many countries, in practice it hardly ever means that literally and the prisoner is often released early for one reason or another. Not all, of course, but many then go on to commit another serious crime, with a member of the public being the (often) totally innocent victim. Protection of the public should be the authorities' prime concern, which has to mean that either the death penalty has to be retained OR, alternatively, "life" must mean "life". One would have thought that life imprisonment would cost the tax-payer much more, but, somehow, the previous methods of administering the death penalty, which used to be extremely low, have been replaced by supposedly more humane methods, which just happen to cost millions. Exactly how a lethal injection ends up costing millions is unclear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 If he was Thai and did it in Thailand he would be out in five and studying to be an arborist or a gunsmith. Good on you US for putting theses creeps down. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemrut Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Why do western countries, particularly the US/UK/AUS, have so many psychopaths? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 No idea what that means. Think about itSent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, cyberfarang said: So what? Putting these people to death is good for society and also real justice for the victims and their families, which is really what this is all about. 30 years later ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: No, but it has certainly stopped him from ever doing it again. We all hear of "life imprisonment" being given as an alternative punishment for a serious crime, but in many countries, in practice it hardly ever means that literally and the prisoner is often released early for one reason or another. Then fix the problem at hand, not provide a feel good solution that does not address the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 56 minutes ago, nemrut said: Why do western countries, particularly the US/UK/AUS, have so many psychopaths? Of course. Psychos are evenly distributed throughout the world. Thailand has it's equal share or maybe even a few extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 karma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 7 hours ago, KKr said: dear do-gooders, if modern methods are not deemed as suitable, there were a few very effective methods in use before. I think the state should form a committee of death row convicts and maybe they can come up with some form of lethal injection that meets their humane standards. Let the inmates decide how they want to go out. Then surely they would have no cause for lawsuits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 hours ago, ivor bigun said: Think about it Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No. Make your point in a manner that can be comprehended. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Bluespunk said: The death penalty is supposed to deter others from committing the same crime. The fact is, the statistics show it doesn’t work. It might work if it didn't take 33 years to carry out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mac98 said: It might work if it didn't take 33 years to carry out. The research says not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodney earl Posted August 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2018 You can get statistics to say anything if you ask the questions the right way. The fact is that he will NEVER get the chance to do anything like that again (which in my book is a good thing). As far as I am concerned China has got the right idea. Apart from anything else I begrudge the fact that he lived for over 30years after committing this horendous crime at tax payers expense. It just not seem fair it should have happened 30 years ago.!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 14 hours ago, cyberfarang said: So what? Putting these people to death is good for society and also real justice for the victims and their families, which is really what this is all about. With the added bonus of collectively saving taxpayers millions on board and lodging the type pf person that cannot realistically be rehabilitated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Trouble said: a committee of death row convicts and maybe they can come up with some form of lethal injection that meets their humane standards A paraquat and novichok speedball maybe? ...with some Dettol to make it smell a bit better after the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeptic7 Posted August 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Bluespunk said: All true, but I still cannot accept it is right for the state to execute citizens. I wouldn’t campaign for clemency on the part of those who acted like this filth, but I would call for their death either. Get over it Blues. Who cares? Human scum pieces of shit such as this need to be purged from the planet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Bluespunk said: The research says not. Did they research every person on earth or just those that commited murder ,? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Trouble said: I think the state should form a committee of death row convicts and maybe they can come up with some form of lethal injection that meets their humane standards. Let the inmates decide how they want to go out. Then surely they would have no cause for lawsuits. my bet would be on O.D., but that cannot be done because it involves an illegal substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said: Get over it Blues. Who cares? Human scum pieces of shit such as this need to be purged from the planet. I’ll decide how I feel about the state killing it’s citizens if that’s ok. I don’t weep at the passing of scum, but I cannot support the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, ivor bigun said: Did they research every person on earth or just those that commited murder ,? Google is your friend if you wish to educate yourself on the effectiveness of the death penalty as a deterrent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivor bigun Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Google is your friend if you wish to educate yourself on the effectiveness of the death penalty as a deterrent. Sorry blue you get an e for effort,dont waste your timeSent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Just now, ivor bigun said: Sorry blue you get an e for effort,dont waste your time Sent from my SM-A720F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Sat on a beach in Hua Hin listening to some tunes. I’ve got all the time in the world. But then, I always make time for learning the facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 39 minutes ago, KKr said: my bet would be on O.D., but that cannot be done because it involves an illegal substance. Absolutely! They might become addicted. Don't laugh. For years USA doctors wouldn't give adequate pain killers to the dying for that very reason. Drug war and all that. Zero tolerance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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