US funny man to give up his American citizenship - desperate to become a Thai

[CanterbrigianBangkoker]

Why would you not get dual citizenship? Doesn't make sense to me, he'd be no less 'loyal' to Thailand by holding both passports, since he WAS born in the States. If it is not a prerequisite to gaining Thai citizenship, (which it isn't) why renounce US citizenship? Anyhow, good luck to him. 

Edited September 18, 2018 by CanterbrigianBangkoker

[wvavin]

He should keep his US citizenship as a safety net especially where he is staying in such country now.

[oldrunner]

I love Thailand, I love my Thai wife, her children and grand-children but I am an American, served 20 years under her flag and will remain an American as my Thai family lowers me into Thai soil for my final trip.

[The Theory]

This is a very unique case since only those dual or multi citizens give their citizenship to escape US tax, but those make lots of money out of US. 

 

Congratulations anyway,

Hope it works for him.

[Neeranam]

48 minutes ago, lemonjelly said:

Would his kids still be able to apply for a US passport after he’s renounced his citizenship?


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No idea, but probably has it already.

[connda]

Good for him.  I wish him the best of luck and hope his dream comes true.  Seems to be easy enough to do if you're a foreign woman married to a Thai man, but being a foreign man married to a Thai woman, the bar is raised to 'almost insurmountable.'  It should not be that way for those who wish to pursue a path toward citizenship.  The Thai government seems to have zero compassion for foreign men who attempt to fully integrate into Thai society such as Udom.  So good for him!!! 

[Neeranam]

8 hours ago, Thian said:

I liked that movie of him and his ants....

It's Udom, not Adam.

[Top Chef]

Two words........DUMB A$$

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, connda said:

but being a foreign man married to a Thai woman, the bar is raised to 'almost insurmountable.'  It should not be that way for those who wish to pursue a path toward citizenship. 

It's easier than many other countries.

Working for 3 years, salary over 40k a month. 5,000 baht for application.

It's barstool myth that's it's impossible.

What makes you think it's so difficult?

Edited September 18, 2018 by Neeranam

[BobBKK]

Hope he enjoys his 500 baht pension when he gets older.  What a ****

[Arin Chokphisit]

6 hours ago, GinBoy2 said:

Pay the money and renounce your citizenship.

Does anyone actually know who he is?

I'd never heard of the guy, so for me it's yet another of the 'Oh Well' stories that I don't care about

I have met with Udom some 13 years ago and can attest to the fact that he feels like a Thai, speaks and eats like a Thai and has never ever wanted anything else but to be a Thai. Where he lives near Phrae he went to Thai school, lived with Thais all his life and is in every regard (but his looks) a Thai. I wish him very best of luck in finally getting Thai citizenship. I moved here 35 years ago at the age of 25 and have received my Thai citizenship 11 years ago. He deserves (and needs) Thai citizenship more than I..

[smotherb]

8 hours ago, Thailand said:

When he gets his citizenship first thing will be his army call up papers.

He is 42, do you really think that will happen?

[Neeranam]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Hope he enjoys his 500 baht pension when he gets older.  What a ****

Why so bitter?

 

You obviously know nothing about the Thai pension scheme.

 

500 baht is just what all old people get, nothing to do with what they have paid into the pension scheme.

[BobBKK]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Why so bitter?

 

You obviously know nothing about the Thai pension scheme.

 

500 baht is just what all old people get, nothing to do with what they have paid into the pension scheme.

I never said that. I said enjoy your 500 THB pension that you will get when OLDER.  Most Thais I know would give and arm and a leg to get to Europe or the USA.  Who cares anyway if he wants to do this let him do it and condemn his kids to it too.  To me it's pathetic and damn his parents for doing this for the 'Lord'.

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, worgeordie said:

What happens if he gives up his US citizenship, then cannot get Thai citizenship,

he's going to be a stateless and we know how they are treated in Thailand.he's

got to think this through carefully.

regards Worgeordie

then he must wander into a cave with some schoolchildren before it floods

[ZAKY]

9 hours ago, ezzra said:

Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure...

No! He is very clever, by renouncing to his american citizenship he will have no tax to pay to america and also it will be easier for him to open a bank account im thailand without declaring that he is an american citizen. Due to the Fatca system, all banks are compelled to report the accounts of all american citizen to america. Some banks are even reticent to open an account for them. 

[mok199]

7 hours ago, Jimbo in Thailand said:

LOL, no need to leave the kingdom stravers, just do like I do and pretend you can't speak/understand Thai when a local starts getting under your skin.  Of course, I'm assuming it's not your Thai babe, but a stranger, or 2 or 3.  Yep, I've long known that the "language barrier" can be a very good thing at times.  

haha...I use the ''MUTE routine often ,and I am one step away from the''white cane '' when it comes to dealing with some thais

[ratcatcher]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Bull.

Septic is an explicit slur.

Yank is corny and dated and generally not used by Americans except ironically when taking to Brits.

Citizens of the USA are called Americans.

Duh.

Yes, only in Latin America you might want to be diplomatic and say estadounidense.

Not relevant elsewhere.

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Septic is not widely used and is cockney rhyming slang  (septic tank - yank) mostly used in Southern England area in a good natured way to mean an American. It is no more derogatory than an American calling an Englishman a limey or an Aussie calling him a pommie (POME).

As a Canadian I don't get all bent out of shape being called a Canuck.

Funny how New York has a baseball team called NY Yankees?

[ratcatcher]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

People from Central and South America , resent citizens from the USA claiming to be "Americans".

America is the whole continents 

The two continents are differentiated by the words North and South.

Canadians are not American but are North American.

Mexicans are not American but are North American. 

South America with 12 countries uses the individual name of the country, but American has historically been someone from the United States of America.

[MrPatrickThai]

7 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

but American has historically been someone from the United States of America.

Only in the USA.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, ratcatcher said:

Septic is not widely used and is cockney rhyming slang  (septic tank - yank) mostly used in Southern England area in a good natured way to mean an American. It is no more derogatory than an American calling an Englishman a limey or an Aussie calling him a pommie (POME).

As a Canadian I don't get all bent out of shape being called a Canuck.

Funny how New York has a baseball team called NY Yankees?

I'm aware of the origin.

But septic and similar are indeed derogatory and so are limey and pommie.

 

Quote

 

http://www.rsdb.org/race/americans

Seppo	Americans	Cockney rhyming slang for septic tank = yank, shortened.
Seppo/Zeppo	Americans	Short for Septic, see Septic, Septic Tank.
Septic	Americans	Short for Septic Tank, which is rhyming slang for "Yank." Commonly used in Ireland. May also be used in the UK.
Septic Tank	Americans	Cockney rhyming slang for "yank", often abreviated to "Seppo"

 

Yankee, Yank is  NOT used by Americans among ourselves to describe our nationality. Yankee is about an American REGION -- North / Northeast but still dated and corny even in that usage. It has a lot of connotations of the civil war era (1860s), Yankees vs. Rebels.The New York Yankees were named LONG AGO.

 

Americans are Americans. Like it or not. Like us or not. Even Canadians get that!

 

Edited September 18, 2018 by Jingthing

[ratcatcher]

1 hour ago, MrPatrickThai said:

Only in the USA.

No, even in Canada, as much as we love Americans, we still refer to those from the lower 49th as Americans. Eh?

[Splash210]

Ok, well enjoy Thai pay lol

[tweedledee2]

4 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I was told that Yank was a derogatory term. I never know what to call people from the US.

You can call me Mr, Sir or by my first name if we are friends. 

[KhunFred]

11 hours ago, Thailand said:

When he gets his citizenship first thing will be his army call up papers.

Not at 42.

[Gecko123]

My diagnosis?

 

Obsessive compulsive nationality disphoria.

[micmichd]

11 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

well, giving up USA citizenship may sound like a good idea now, but later, now lets assume the USA still exists, he won't be eligible for any Medicare or any other federal benefits.  Americans can hold dual citizenship, but if the Thais are expecting or demanding him to give up USA allegiance, well, so be it.  One makes their bed, one sleeps in it.

Guess Medicare or Medicaid are not much worse than Thai Universal Healthcare or NHS. Private Health Insurances in Asia are cheaper than in the U.S.A.  And if he's worked for his pension he should well be able to take it with him and spend it in Thailand. I'm naturalized German, and I do the same.

[ostyan]

As an American teacher, he can get 40K and up. As a Thai teacher, he can get as much as 20K.

[duanebigsby]

5 hours ago, Emster23 said:

I'm a Yank and pay US taxes on my pension & social security. As they are US based, I would still be required to pay taxes regardless of citizenship.

Medicare is useless here. Expats don't have political power, so easy to cut us out of coverage. I suppose they think we wouldn't ever need health care once we moved out of USA.... still get to pay into it or get dinged.

Article said he spent his first 2 years in US, so probably is more Thai than Yank. Doesn't seem to consider future very well.... hmmm

My "Tarzan's first law of the jungle: don't let go of one vine til you have hold of another"

There is no "vine" for a 42 year old who has lived here since he was 2. He has considered his future very well. It's to be in Thailand and not go to the States.

[NCC1701A]

very short sighted person putting all his eggs in a Thai basket.