Trump court pick tearfully denies woman's sexual assault allegation

[mikebike]

24 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I am dismayed at the Dems (many of whose policies I support).

You have used this line, or very similar, in many of your posts...

 

Which policies would that be exactly? 

 

I, personally, haven't seen a single post of yours which would confirm your assertion.

[BobBKK]

13 minutes ago, Spidey said:

 

It's clear that the agenda for both sides is political in the extreme. The President for nominating his stooge in the first place and the Democrats for trumping up (no pun intended) reasons for turning the nomination down.

 

However, if the nomination is eventually refused, it can only be good for the American Justice System, which should NEVER be politicised.

 

Yes I agree and have never stated otherwise. Take this process OUT of politics but we are where we are NOW.

[newatthis]

14 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Nope, I would not.

 

But I wouldn't be putting him on the Supreme Court either.

 

And that's the important thing. Any twerp can run for POTUS, but this man is applying for a position on SCOTUS; the highest federal judical court in the USA.

He has made it quite clear that any legal decisions he makes will not be based on the law, but on his anti-Democrat stance. He will be like a policeman who is convinced of your guilt and arranges the evidence to suit that opinion instead of going where the evidence points.

SCOTUS is the last hope for proper legal recourse.  Can you trust this man to do the correct legal thing?

[BobBKK]

9 minutes ago, mikebike said:

You have used this line, or very similar, in many of your posts...

 

Which policies would that be exactly? 

 

I, personally, haven't seen a single post of yours which would confirm your assertion.

 

Then you have not looked very hard. I replied to another posters who claimed the same very recently. I am a member of the British Labour Party holding office earlier in my life. I am pro-choice, pro-marijuana, anti-corporates, pro-equal rights for all and pro- getting rid of the electoral college.  Most of all I am pro-fairness and anti politics in judicial processes.

[BobBKK]

17 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

So how come Neil Gorsuch's confirmation didn't need any of this dripping, white-male entitlement to succeed? He's from exactly the same time-frame, era, no?

 

White male?  how did that get in here?  there is nothing to do with race in this or gender.  BTW I was just as vehement when the GOP derailed Obama's pick who, I thought, was a good choice. 

[mikebike]

3 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

Then you have not looked very hard. I replied to another posters who claimed the same very recently. I am a member of the British Labour Party holding office earlier in my life. I am pro-choice, pro-marijuana, anti-corporates, pro-equal rights for all and pro- getting rid of the electoral college.  Most of all I am pro-fairness and anti politics in judicial processes.

Pro choice, and pro-equal rights ARE big D Democratic policies.

 

Pro-marijuana, anti-corporate, and eliminating the electoral college are not.

 

So "many" has now become "two".

 

Your past doesn't interest me in the least and is about the same quality of evidence as Kavanaugh's calendar.

 

Also wouldn't a staunch "equal-rights" supporter want a full FBI investigation to prevent the possibility of putting a tainted judge on the Supreme Court?

[NaamGin]

After an emotional day of testimony on Capitol Hill, a late Thursday report from Townhall citing a Senate insider reveals that Brett Kavanaugh has the votes to make it out of committee and will be confirmed on the floor for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. 

 

It appears the 11th hour character assassination of Judge Kavanaugh failed. The Dims tried it with Clarance Thomas and Robert Bork, so they thought they would dust off the old playbook since after all, we are in the #MeToo generation where facts, evidence and proof mean nothing. Especially when you get the opportunity to destroy a man's career and family with false, unverifiable accusations that would never make it into court because of lack of evidence. All because he has a different political ideology than yours. 

 

Congrats though to the Dims for a spirited fight, you have raised conservatives interest in the mid-terms by about 12 points. You want to stack the courts, then go win some elections, if you can. 

 

Welcome to the SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh.

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, helpisgood said:

 

Agreed.

 

Maybe the Republicans are wary of what may be revealed about Kavanaugh's school life.

 

I've had various FBI backround checks for one security clearance or another. Doesn't seem too great a burden to impose on a would be Supreme Court justice.

[Silurian]

The American Bar Association is calling for a delay and an FBI investigation! Even they understand the need for additional investigation so to not sully the people's trust of the highest court in the land.

 

American Bar Association: Delay Kavanaugh until FBI investigates assault allegations

 

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"The basic principles that underscore the Senate's constitutional duty of advice and consent on federal judicial nominees require nothing less than a careful examination of the accusations and facts by the FBI," said Robert Carlson, president of the organization, in a Thursday night letter addressed to Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley and ranking Democrat Dianne Feinstein.

...

In the letter, the ABA president says the Senate must remain "an institution that will reliably follow the law and not politics," saying a "thorough FBI investigation will demonstrate its commitment to a Supreme Court that is above reproach."

 

Edited September 28, 2018 by Silurian

[BobBKK]

12 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Pro choice, and pro-equal rights ARE big D Democratic policies.

 

Pro-marijuana, anti-corporate, and eliminating the electoral college are not.

 

So "many" has now become "two".

 

Your past doesn't interest me in the least and is about the same quality of evidence as Kavanaugh's calendar.

 

Also wouldn't a staunch "equal-rights" supporter want a full FBI investigation to prevent the possibility of putting a tainted judge on the Supreme Court?

 

You are so wrong there buddy. But no point flogging a dead horse with a closed mind. Have a nice day we agree to disagree.

[mikebike]

5 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

After an emotional day of testimony on Capitol Hill, a late Thursday report from Townhall citing a Senate insider reveals that Brett Kavanaugh has the votes to make it out of committee and will be confirmed on the floor for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. 

 

It appears the 11th hour character assassination of Judge Kavanaugh failed. The Dims tried it with Clarance Thomas and Robert Bork, so they thought they would dust off the old playbook since after all, we are in the #MeToo generation where facts, evidence and proof mean nothing. Especially when you get the opportunity to destroy a man's career and family with false, unverifiable accusations that would never make it into court because of lack of evidence. All because he has a different political ideology than yours. 

 

Congrats though to the Dims for a spirited fight, you have raised conservatives interest in the mid-terms by about 12 points. You want to stack the courts, then go win some elections, if you can. 

 

Welcome to the SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh.

From their own blurb: "Townhall is the top source for conservative news..."

 

Hahhaha... one conservative news outlet is reporting it... must be done deal.

[BobBKK]

7 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I've had various FBI backround checks for one security clearance or another. Doesn't seem too great a burden to impose on a would be Supreme Court justice.

 

That is true and would be a great idea if they had not hidden this to play their political games. 45 days or so ago "FBI report" sound right and Im sure most would have supported it. Now?  just a delaying tactic.

[Morch]

1 minute ago, BobBKK said:

 

That is true and would be a great idea if they had not hidden this to play their political games. 45 days or so ago "FBI report" sound right and Im sure most would have supported it. Now?  just a delaying tactic.

 

Given the partisan divide, I somehow doubt anything would garner a "most would have supported" reaction, regardless of what you're sure of. Trump supporters seem to have no issues discrediting and doubting reports by security agencies - so long as it serves to protect the Don.

[NaamGin]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

That is true and would be a great idea if they had not hidden this to play their political games. 45 days or so ago "FBI report" sound right and Im sure most would have supported it. Now?  just a delaying tactic.

 

Kavanaugh has been though 5 or 6 complete FBI background checks over the years he has been in public service. Not one found any inclination of the claims being made against him. One more would do the trick I guess, especially when you consider that everyone named as a witness to these events has made statements to the contrary. 

[mikebike]

21 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I've had various FBI backround checks for one security clearance or another. Doesn't seem too great a burden to impose on a would be Supreme Court justice.

 

12 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 

That is true and would be a great idea if they had not hidden this to play their political games. 45 days or so ago "FBI report" sound right and Im sure most would have supported it. Now?  just a delaying tactic.

Soooo... quashing "political games" is more important than making the right decision in the long run? What an odd opinion.

[mikebike]

13 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

 

Kavanaugh has been though 5 or 6 complete FBI background checks over the years he has been in public service. Not one found any inclination of the claims being made against him. One more would do the trick I guess, especially when you consider that everyone named as a witness to these events has made statements to the contrary. 

Except that it seems clear that he lied (or at the very least "misled") in two of those previous appointment hearings in 2004 and 2006 to protect himself.

[attrayant]

47 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

I was just as vehement when the GOP derailed Obama's pick who, I thought, was a good choice. 

 

You were?  Here in these forums?  Maybe the board's search engine sucks but damned if I can find you posting in the Merrick Garland discussion.

[mikebike]

5 minutes ago, attrayant said:

 

You were?  Here in these forums?  Maybe the board's search engine sucks but damned if I can find you posting in the Merrick Garland discussion.

Maybe under another avatar... Bob the Builder only joined on Feb. 14.

[Kieran00001]

46 minutes ago, NaamGin said:

After an emotional day of testimony on Capitol Hill, a late Thursday report from Townhall citing a Senate insider reveals that Brett Kavanaugh has the votes to make it out of committee and will be confirmed on the floor for a seat on the U.S. Supreme Court. 

 

It appears the 11th hour character assassination of Judge Kavanaugh failed. The Dims tried it with Clarance Thomas and Robert Bork, so they thought they would dust off the old playbook since after all, we are in the #MeToo generation where facts, evidence and proof mean nothing. Especially when you get the opportunity to destroy a man's career and family with false, unverifiable accusations that would never make it into court because of lack of evidence. All because he has a different political ideology than yours. 

 

Congrats though to the Dims for a spirited fight, you have raised conservatives interest in the mid-terms by about 12 points. You want to stack the courts, then go win some elections, if you can. 

 

Welcome to the SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh.

 

The origin of your claim appears to be a Bulgarian stockbroker, are you sure you are this confident in what this foreigner says someone told him?

[Dap]

5 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

I don't follow, which do you think we are seeing here, the shortage of quality people resulting in a sex pest being nominated, or a brave person being attacked with an unfounded allegation?  Of course the reason there is a shortage of quality people is nothing to do with who is actually available, it is due to Trump sacking his transition team on Jareds request and choosing to run the appointments themselves, something they are clearly incapable of doing, hence why they keep selecting people with embarrassing or criminal histories.

Birds of a feather?

[darksidedog]

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[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, Gecko123 said:

Hawaii's Senator Mazie Hirono has been heroically vocal in speaking out about the unfairness of this proceeding. She is the one who articulated that Kavanaugh is an "outcome driven" judge. Forget about the "strict constitutionalist" vs "judges who use the law to legislate" ways to categorize judges.

 

Kavanaugh is an extremely politically connected (Starr investigation, worked in the Bush White House, Federalist Society darling.) This guy has a fine legal mind, but views the law as something which can be used in order to get it to do what you want it to do. He has become skilled in using the law to accommodate the interests of the powers that be, and thus endeared and ingratiated himself to those whose interests are served.  In other words, once he knows the outcome he wants, he is clever about promulgating legal arguments which support that outcome.

 

I don't sense this guy has the ability to empathize with average Americans. His strong suit seems to be the ability to make adroit legal reasonings which have endeared and ingratiated himself into the graces of the Republican elite who have in turn groomed him for career advancement. But whether you're talking about abortion rights, civil rights, immigration, prisoner rights, corporate interests vs individual interests, campaign finance reform, gun rights, or environmental protection, how an 'average Joe' TVF member thinks putting this guy on the Supreme Court is in their best interests boggles my mind. You think this guy is going to look out for your interests? Unless you're in the top 10%, I think this guy is going to be looking after interests far far above your pay grade. But while it lasts, enjoy the illusion that your interests are being served by putting him on the court.

An excellent summary of why this man should never be appointed.

He is obviously a political appointee to a role that should in itself be free of politics but is increasingly seen as another way of pushing a right wing agenda through interpretation of the law. 

It's no coincidence that Trump and his cronies are trying their very best to get this man in as everyone in Washington now sees the supreme court as an uncontested route to their political leanings which in this case is right-wing christian ideology.

 

[DaiHard]

I hope that those of you that are so quick to rush to judgment on unsubstantiated allegations just because you don't like Trump never find yourself in the position where your falsely accused because you'll get precious little sympathy

[mikebike]

10 minutes ago, DaiHard said:

I hope that those of you that are so quick to rush to judgment on unsubstantiated allegations just because you don't like Trump never find yourself in the position where your falsely accused because you'll get precious little sympathy

The only ones wishing to "rush to judgement" are the GOP.

 

Those who believe Dr. Ford is a credible witness are only asking for a formal investigation, not judgement.

 

If I were falsely accused I would demand an investigation to clear my name without caveat... strangely Mr. Kavanaugh seems angered by the idea.

Edited September 28, 2018 by mikebike

[attrayant]

6 minutes ago, DaiHard said:

I hope that those of you that are so quick to rush to judgment on unsubstantiated allegations just because you don't like Trump never find yourself in the position where your falsely accused because you'll get precious little sympathy

 

If I were to find myself in such a situation and the allegations were false, I'd have the milligram of common sense it takes to ask the relevant law enforcement and investigatory agencies to clear my name.

 

If I were to find myself in such a situation and the allegations were true (or there were even any sliver of truth), I'd have the milligram of common sense it takes to decline the nomination.

 

But thanks for the kind wished though.

[digger70]

Hang on now ,,Fair suck of the sav,,, Why wait 36 yrs to accuse maybe the Wrong Person. Should've Reported the Allegation and maybe supplied some DNA and /or some evidence and the Witness she said that was There. Can't Proof Anything Now.

[mikebike]

1 minute ago, digger70 said:

Hang on now ,,Fair suck of the sav,,, Why wait 36 yrs to accuse maybe the Wrong Person. Should've Reported the Allegation and maybe supplied some DNA and /or some evidence and the Witness she said that was There. Can't Proof Anything Now.

Come on dude!! Even multiple Fox News hosts have declared her a credible witness. Your lack of insight into sexual assault psychology doesn't prove anything... but an investigation could... Why not?

[Basil B]

The unfortunate fact is she is a Democrat and never hid that fact.

 

But unfortunately America is divided with republican believing: it never happened,  boys will be boys, she is just laying s**t on Republicans.

 

He is damaged goods, while he has a high profile he will be a target for further allegations.

 

By supporting him the Republicans will be shooting themselves in the foot, they will not have a leg to stand on as Trump has already shoot the other foot off...

[habanero]

5 hours ago, utalkin2me said:

Ford does not have a pattern of unusual or reckless behavior. She is just going to come out of the woodwork now, and turn her life upsidedown with nothing to gain? That explination makes no sense.  Then you have the coorborative stories that bolster her claim. 

 

This guy is a scumbag. The country is filled with successful, power hungry, narsicistic scumbags, this isn't surprising at all. 

 

This guy is done. Stick a fork in him. Forget the supreme court buddy, you should feel lucky if you are not in a jail cellmafter this. 

Really? Funny how all the woman claiming to be sexually assaulted are Democrats. ????

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Can you imagine what the troglodytes in this thread would be saying if it were a Democratic nominee tearfully testifying?

Or if a woman or a black guy behaved that way.