Under a changing sky

[rooster59]

Under a changing sky

By Pradit Phulsarikil 
Nation Graphics

 

Nation Graphics/Pradit Phulsarikil

 

Climate change has caused much concern this century, but Thailand is joining the fight against rising temperatures by promising to take action on cutting down greenhouse gas emissions.

 

Climate change has caused much concern this century, but Thailand is joining the fight against rising temperatures by promising to take action on cutting down greenhouse gas emissions.

 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30355898

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-06

 

 

[bluesofa]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Thailand is joining the fight against rising temperatures by promising to take action on cutting down greenhouse gas emissions.

So where's the article about this?

No idea if the graphics have any details, they're to small to read clearly, even after zooming in.

Just what "action" is Thailand "promising to take"? Talk is cheap - especially when there's only two sentences.

 

[jvs]

Yes the intention is fine but what is a small country going to do when big countries like China and the US are by far the most damaging parties?

You can dream up all kinds of environmental taxes like my home country does but is it really going to make a difference?

[Black arab]

Climate change has been going on forever, temperatures were hotter than they are now a number of times . We are actually in a temp pause at the moment even though c02 levels have risen .The book mirrors and mazes co firms this.Global warming is another corporate con and we all fell for it.

[zzaa09]

9 hours ago, bluesofa said:

So where's the article about this?

No idea if the graphics have any details, they're to small to read clearly, even after zooming in.

Just what "action" is Thailand "promising to take"? Talk is cheap - especially when there's only two sentences.

 

A flash in a pan.

Jumping on the fashionable band wagon - it's all the rage. 

 

 

If we know anything, the climate change issues/activism [pro or con] are highly profitable. 

Business as usual. 

 

 

Think about it.

[canuckamuck]

I would be more concerned if human's found a way to stop the climate from changing. 

Of course they have no idea how. But hey, at least the fear mongering has created a lot of new jobs for hippies and Poindexters. Some good tax money coming in too.

[Bluespunk]

2 hours ago, Black arab said:

Climate change has been going on forever, temperatures were hotter than they are now a number of times . We are actually in a temp pause at the moment even though c02 levels have risen .The book mirrors and mazes co firms this.Global warming is another corporate con and we all fell for it.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. 

 

Global warming is a real threat and humanities behaviour is fuelling it. 

 

[Nyezhov]

They need to start with plastic and bottles. Recycling.

[Bluespunk]

17 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

They need to start with plastic and bottles. Recycling.

Recycling while very important is not as crucial as reduction in use and production. 

[teacherofwoe]

Damn, that water vapor!

[Nyezhov]

22 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Recycling while very important is not as crucial as reduction in use and production. 

Thats fine. We should all do our part. I have my own BPA free water bottles. I try to control my breathing so as not to pump excess C02 into the air. I reuse plastic bags. If you stitch them together with thread you unravel from your old socks, they make excellent ponchos. Straws are very useful. For example, If you fit three or four of the bendable ones together, you can use them to suck out ear wax, much better than going for candling.

 

Silliness aside, back in the USA in many jurisdictions, recycling is mandatory as are deposits on bottles and cans. That in and of itself lowers carbon footprints, assuming that such a thing makes a difference. Think Global, act local. My biggest bitch about Thailand is it is a pig sty. Small efforts mean more than trying to get a billion chinese to mend their ways.

[iroc4life]

44 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Recycling while very important is not as crucial as reduction in use and production. 

Reduction in use and production while every economy in the world is measured by yearly growth ???? Itll never happen even for plastics. Most western countries are already placing limits or out right banning them when only about 10% of the worlds plastic in the sea comes from those nations while 90% or more come from Asia and Africa who do basically nothing. 

[Bluespunk]

27 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Thats fine. We should all do our part. I have my own BPA free water bottles. I try to control my breathing so as not to pump excess C02 into the air. I reuse plastic bags. If you stitch them together with thread you unravel from your old socks, they make excellent ponchos. Straws are very useful. For example, If you fit three or four of the bendable ones together, you can use them to suck out ear wax, much better than going for candling.

 

Silliness aside, back in the USA in many jurisdictions, recycling is mandatory as are deposits on bottles and cans. That in and of itself lowers carbon footprints, assuming that such a thing makes a difference. Think Global, act local. My biggest bitch about Thailand is it is a pig sty. Small efforts mean more than trying to get a billion chinese to mend their ways.

Recycling is great and I am heavily involved in my schools Green Flag programme. 

 

However, the way forward is reducing our usage. Recycling itself will not work. 

[Nyezhov]

22 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Recycling is great and I am heavily involved in my schools Green Flag programme. 

 

However, the way forward is reducing our usage. Recycling itself will not work. 

Well Im old enough to to remember:

 

Milk in glass bottles that you returned.

Wax paper wrapped sarnies

Wax paper wrapped everything

Breadboxes

Cloth diapers

 

But look at the different environmental consequences of each. And if you reduce usage, how many folks do you condemn to death....

[Bluespunk]

13 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Well Im old enough to to remember:

 

Milk in glass bottles that you returned.

Wax paper wrapped sarnies

Wax paper wrapped everything

Breadboxes

Cloth diapers

 

But look at the different environmental consequences of each. And if you reduce usage, how many folks do you condemn to death....

Those things you mention are biodegradable. 

 

Plastic is not. 

 

They were mostly reusable. 

 

Many plastics can be reused, but are generally not. 

 

If we don’t reduce our usage of single use plastics and other environmentally destructive behaviours, we will face environmental catastrophe. 

 

Oh yes, and as I have said in every post...recycling is important. 

[fforest1]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. 

 

Global warming is a real threat and humanities behaviour is fuelling it. 

 

Global warming is as fake as a 3 dollar bill...And the cure for Global Warming is lots and lots of new taxes....lol.....That the sheep cant wait to pay...

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, fforest1 said:

Global warming is as fake as a 3 dollar bill...And the cure for Global Warming is lots and lots of new taxes....lol.....That the sheep cant wait to pay...

With views like yours, we are indeed doomed. 

[Ulic]

I will believe it when I see the planned coal-fired electric plants changed over to gas.

[Nyezhov]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

With views like yours, we are indeed doomed. 

Fair enough, Ill bury a memory stick with all my writings and hope the Octopus people find it after the next Ice Age. 

 

Which is coming if you beleive in cyclical climate change.

[Bluespunk]

5 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Fair enough, Ill bury a memory stick with all my writings and hope the Octopus people find it after the next Ice Age. 

 

Which is coming if you beleive in cyclical climate change.

I believe that the earth has indeed gone through cyclical changes.  

 

That is not what is happening right now though. 

 

The enviromental catastrophe we are facing now is of humanities doing. 

[Nyezhov]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

I believe that the earth has indeed gone through cyclical changes.  

 

That is not what is happening right now though. 

 

The enviromental catastrophe we are facing now is of humanities doing. 

well thailand isnt the place for you to be then in terms of an imminent catastrophe. I suggest the hills of NC, SC, WV, KY or TN. Best places in the world to ride it out.

[Bluespunk]

14 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

well thailand isnt the place for you to be then in terms of an imminent catastrophe. I suggest the hills of NC, SC, WV, KY or TN. Best places in the world to ride it out.

Nowhere will be safe unless humanity changes it’s behaviour. 

[kannot]

15 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Just what "action" is Thailand "promising to take"?

"0"

[nausea]

Well, I guess most people aren't too optimistic, if the falling birth rate is anything to go by. These are the halcyon days - the calm before the storm, when we live off our principal and b##ger the consequences. Now, there was a time when people took a long term view; indeed, many sacrificed their lives in pursuit of an ideal. Me? I think we're about to find out the answer to the Fermi paradox - real close up and personal. Hopefully, I'll be dead long before the SHTF. Ha! 

[gunderhill]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

With views like yours, we are indeed doomed. 

Doomed anyway whatevers  done.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, gunderhill said:

Doomed anyway whatevers  done.

Maybe... but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. 

[manarak]

7 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Maybe... but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. 

yes... however I think taxes are not the way to go.

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, manarak said:

yes... however I think taxes are not the way to go.

Don’t care what the cost is in taxes. 

[Elad]

5 hours ago, teacherofwoe said:

Damn, that water vapor!

Yep, water vapour is the most abundant greenhouse gas, making up about 0.5% of the gaseous composition of the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide is at around 0.038%.

There seems to be a correlation between Global mean surface temperatures and anthropogenic c02 emissions over the last 200 years, but its not proven. 

[Nyezhov]

6 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Don’t care what the cost is in taxes. 

Cool pay my share. In fact, I assume you are living under a scenario wherein you consume and/or produce nothing so as not to have a negative impact on climate?