MekkOne Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Quote The act would focus on dogs and cats first, in an effort to reduce the number of abandoned pets – which resulted in the spread of infectious diseases that could pass onto humans. unfortunately no vaccine against idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, androokery said: That sounds like a moral argument, not so much a legal one. And I think people culling soi dog packs want to stand more on legality than morals. "That sounds like a moral argument, not so much a legal one." I agree, except it isn't a moral argument - it's a 'personal opinion' argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androokery Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, MekkOne said: unfortunately no vaccine against idiocy. Why is that idiotic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MekkOne Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, androokery said: Why is that idiotic? whole thing is... Nobody in this country will do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androokery Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, MekkOne said: whole thing is... Nobody in this country will do it. So the idea makes sense and the argument is sound, it's just that it's extremely unrealistic to expect any positive effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MekkOne Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 minute ago, androokery said: So the idea makes sense and the argument is sound, it's just that it's extremely unrealistic to expect any positive effects? I think so, I've got at least 5 cats (none of them mine) wandering around my house and in my garden, none of them got a collar, I want to see the BiB coming here and claim that are my cats, they feed themselves with the offer that the wife leaves on the ghost house, so tell me how the BiB proof that an animal is actually belongs to you (let the dog that is more affective) but a cat they will spend time sitting in front of my place with a camera for get a picture of me or the wife actually feed one of the animals ?????? Could work in BKK not in rural areas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androokery Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, MekkOne said: I think so, I've got at least 5 cats (none of them mine) wandering around my house and in my garden, none of them got a collar, I want to see the BiB coming here and claim that are my cats, they feed themselves with the offer that the wife leaves on the ghost house, so tell me how the BiB proof that an animal is actually belongs to you (let the dog that is more affective) but a cat they will spend time sitting in front of my place with a camera for get a picture of me or the wife actually feed one of the animals ?????? Could work in BKK not in rural areas... I think it's supposed to work the other way round... Any dog or cat that is not registered and of which you do not immediately claim ownership can be caught and euthanised. For the benefit of the society as a whole. If you do claim ownership then you are liable for the fine for not having registered the animal in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Sometimes I think they just do this promote hysterical laughter. Add this to the myriad of other laws and regulations that are on the books destined to be totally ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MekkOne Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, androokery said: I think it's supposed to work the other way round... Any dog or cat that is not registered and of which you do not immediately claim ownership can be caught and euthanised. For the benefit of the society as a whole. If you do claim ownership then you are liable for the fine for not having registered the animal in the first place. Sorry in which word of fantasy do you live? EDIT: sorry I don't want you to misunderstand... who's going to go after the animals the BiB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androokery Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just now, MekkOne said: Sorry in which word of fantasy do you live? I think this is the first step in the direction I have described. I however do not believe there will be any further steps taken, nor do I think anything like this will be seriously implemented. But the tactic and the intent seem clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 450 Baht to register a dog or a cat, but only 100baht to register a motorbike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, cyberfarang said: Paying 450 baht to keep my dog, of course, my dog is part of the family. But if they start demanding that amount to register my wife, no way, ridiculous, absurd. You might have to decide, one has to go.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, androokery said: I think it's supposed to work the other way round... Any dog or cat that is not registered and of which you do not immediately claim ownership can be caught and euthanised. For the benefit of the society as a whole. If you do claim ownership then you are liable for the fine for not having registered the animal in the first place. Sounds great but they don't do euthanasia here. More likely to be sterilised and put back on the street, if anything is done at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, prakhonchai nick said: 450 Baht to register a dog or a cat, but only 100baht to register a motorbike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And half of the motorbikes in rural areas aren't registered, with no number plates, insurance or "tabien rot"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Expect a brand new government ministry to manifest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 2 hours ago, JAG said: And half of the motorbikes in rural areas aren't registered, with no number plates, insurance or "tabien rot"! only half!! .....come down this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 What happens if you don't register them? It's not like they have an animal control department, or a animal pound to actually enforce any of this! This is just another exercise in pointless proclamations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 8 hours ago, PatOngo said: Expect the street dog population to rise significantly then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Cabinet backs animal registration law, orders more review to reduce inconveniences BANGKOK, 12th October 2018 (NNT) - The cabinet has approved in principle the animal registration measure, and ordered related agencies to conduct further studies to avoid unnecessary inconveniences to public members. The Government Spokesman, Lt. Gen. Sansern Kaewkamnerd, said the cabinet on Wednesday (Oct 10) approved the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperative's proposal on the amendment of the Prevention of Cruelty and Animal Welfare Provision Act, and ordered officials to revise issues that may cause concern to the general public. Lt. Gen. Sansern said the Prime Minister, Gen. Prayut Chan-o-cha, has ordered the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperatives and related agencies to consider the appropriateness of animal registration fees and penalties, which could be waived, and re-submit the draft to the cabinet for further consideration. The law will still have to pass more procedures by the Council of the State and the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) before being officially implemented. The general public can submit their input regarding this law directly to the government, or through DLD 4.0 mobile application by the Department of Livestock Development. The Prevention of Cruelty and Animal Welfare Provision Act was first implemented in 2014 to prevent animal cruelty by humans. The new revision is aimed to reduce abandonment of pets by requiring pet owners to register their pet to ensure proper care. -- nnt 2018-10-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 "...the cabinet on Wednesday (Oct 10) approved the Ministry of Agriculture and Cooperative's proposal on the amendment of the Prevention of Cruelty and Animal Welfare Provision Act, and ordered officials to revise issues that may cause concern to the general public..." In other words, "We'll have a law to register animals if necessary, but we won't necessarily have a law to register animals." Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: ordered officials to revise issues that may cause concern to the general public. thai specificity on display; means absolutely Zero; country can't even control it's own animals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Good luck in getting the Thais to do this.just like them getting a scooter license or road tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 hours ago, JAG said: And half of the motorbikes in rural areas aren't registered, with no number plates, insurance or "tabien rot"! I have no problems registering my dog, but I wonder what the point it besides paying off a Thai. What are the actual benefits for dog owners or others that will done with this money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostyan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Do you think this regulation is feasable or just an another joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Never happen. In rural Thailand that's a full day's pay. Implement that before the election and watch Phue Thai win in a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 17 hours ago, canuckamuck said: If they paired this with a plan to eliminate the unregistered dogs they would be on to winner with this plan. Bounty.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 17 hours ago, PatOngo said: Expect the street dog population to rise significantly then...…...I've seen so many dogs abandoned when they pass that cute, na rak, cuddly little pup stage. How do you tell the difference? In my area every dog is out in the street. Bloody obstical course going into town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 17 hours ago, stanleycoin said: What could ever go wrong with this idea !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's already been scrapped according to BKK Post. Prayuth fondly imagines he rules this country but some laws that he introduced are scrapped/ignored by the police like the pickup seat-belt one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MekkOne Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 hours ago, madmitch said: Sounds great but they don't do euthanasia here. More likely to be sterilised and put back on the street, if anything is done at all. Another one that lives in Dreamland... Who is going to sterilize all the strays? who's going to pay for it? Do you think they going to pay the sterilization with the income from the new dog/cat tax? I mean reality check sometimes is not hurting, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'm all for it if they can make it work, which on past performance, it won't. If they do enforce it, the Thais next door with nine dogs will be in for a shock. So will the farang who lives near me who lets his six dogs roam the community. If it were up to me, households would be limited to one PET dog which must be kept behind a locked gate except when being walked, on a lead, by an adult. I think it'd be more appropriate if dogs were to be required to have a licence for owners, most of whom are completely irresponsible in this country, farang included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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