webfact Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Quick U-Turn on plans to introduce registration of pet dogs and cats Picture: Thai Rath The government has announced a U-turn on plans announced this week to order cat and dog owners to register their pets. They have decided it would be too much of a "burden". The move announced on Wednesday would have seen pet owners having to pay 450 baht to register their pets and face 25,000 baht fines if they didn't. Sorawit Thanito - a vet at the Department of Livestock Development - told Thai Rath that the government had shelved plans for now saying that they would have been a burden on the population. A rethink on the way forward is now in the pipeline. The news on Wednesday caused a large reaction from pet owners with ten thousands of people sharing stories and many more commenting on the matter. Source: Thai Rath -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-10-12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 So, is it ok for dogs and cats to ride in the back of a pickup? The flip flop continues! 1 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 Flip! Flop! Almost seems part of the standard operating procedure here. Bring out a cunning plan, introduce it with gusto, then decide its not so cunning, and pull the plug. 13 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 it would only have worked if they also started collecting all the stray dogs and cats as well, many pet owners dont give a sh*t about them, they simply let them run wild with no training at all. Really over people simply allowing their animals to crap in other peoples yards and on the streets, really doubt the owners would take responsibility for them though, they simply dont care what they do and in many cases dont even feed them, instead letting them scrounge through rubbish etc on the streets 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post james.d Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 Why not just scrap every single law here already passed and any that may be in the pipeline.. would win plenty of votes. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, PatOngo said: So, is it ok for dogs and cats to ride in the back of a pickup? The flip flop continues! Only if they're on a leash. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KiChakayan Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 Any one who may have hopes on Thailand moving into modernity, in due course, at the right juncture, in the fullness of time, should think about making a U turn to go home. 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 "A rethink on the way forward is now in the pipeline".......I hope the same person who came up with this idea initially is not involved 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It was too much of a burden? The mind boggles! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post petermik Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 hours ago, DM07 said: It was too much of a burden? The mind boggles! ???? The government wants total concentration on the upcoming "elections" and no sidetracking on lesser issues......difficult enough here deciding how many chillies in todays somtam without all this to contend with ???? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThreeEyedRaven Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 I had a seemingly brilliant idea about how Thailand could avoid these embarrassing law introductions and subsequent withdrawals, which was before introducing a law, to actually think it through first. Then I saw the flaw in my idea. Many Thais are not blessed with an innate ability to think, let alone think things through to a conclusion. Before deciding it was brilliant, I should have thought it through! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Checked Florida USA cost and it is $15 and California $16 - so proposed Thailand cost does appear a bit on the high side. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Flip! Flop! Almost seems part of the standard operating procedure here. Bring out a cunning plan, introduce it with gusto, then decide its not so cunning, and pull the plug. I think you just described why a "20 year plan" wouldn't work either. What if it was a bad plan, not thought out ?! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Pet registration bill to be rethought after public fury and worries over fallout By KORNRAWEE PANYASUPPAKUN THE NATION File photo A BILL approved by the Cabinet making it mandatory to register dogs and cats was derailed yesterday after pet lovers cried foul over the high fee for the registration document, and threatened to abandon their pets. The bill, which got the Cabinet nod on Wednesday, allows municipalities to charge a maximum fee of Bt450 – Bt50 for registration, Bt100 for a book of identity and Bt300 for identification tools such as microchips. It sets the maximum fine for violation at Bt25,000. However, the bill does not specify where the money will go or how it would be spent to improve animal welfare. “We don’t object if the government charges registration fees, but the amount must be appropriate and the agency must explain how the income is spent,” wrote the Watchdog Thailand page. “Personally, I think it [the registration bill] doesn’t tackle the problems, but makes them worse. Who will want to adopt stray cats and dog?” wrote the admin of Moh Maew Yak Bok Tard Maew Facebook Page (What a cat doctor wants to tell cat lovers). The pricey fees will discourage owners from adopting pets and may even encourage some to abandon their dogs and cats on the street or in the care of temples to avoid paying the fees, according to comments in social media in response to the bill. Bill to be reconsidered “If the bill was passed into the law, more dogs would be abandoned, uncared for, starve and spaying or neutering is harder. The dogs will also be at greater risk of rabies, said Dr Thiravat Hemachudha, a rabies expert and professor at Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine. Instead of charging high fees from people who help take care of unwanted dogs and cats out of kindness, the government should ask for their cooperation to get the animals spayed and neutered as well as vaccinated for rabies, he said. Following the public outcry, the Cabinet will reconsider the bill. At its core, the bill intends to regulate family pets and reduce the number of strays, but the Cabinet promised not to make registration a burden for people. Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha was worried that if the registration move led to people abandoning their pets, the municipality, the City Hall, or the Agriculture Ministry would not be able to take care of these unwanted pets,” Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam said yesterday. The Livestock Development Department agreed to take the bill back for reviewing, as it might create too much burden for the people, director-general Sorawit Thaneto said yesterday. The bill, in fact, aims to prevent pet owners from abandoning their pets and to provide welfare for the unwanted ones. With such a law, families would be required by law to provided good care for their pets, and thus reduce the number of stray dogs and cats, he explained. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30356285 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: Flip! Flop! Almost seems part of the standard operating procedure here. Bring out a cunning plan, introduce it with gusto, then decide its not so cunning, and pull the plug. Are you sure you don't mean 'pull the pug'? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anterian Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 The 1% at the top truly have no understanding of how the 40% at the bottom live. The finance system illustrates this, a poor Thai can buy a motorbike because he can buy on credit, but a helmet at 3000 Baht needs cash, which he cannot afford. So he breaks the law. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirat69 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, darksidedog said: Flip! Flop! Almost seems part of the standard operating procedure here. Bring out a cunning plan, introduce it with gusto, then decide its not so cunning, and pull the plug. Other governments call it "flying a kite".... which might also be a colloquially appropriate term for the Thai government!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Well I guess there are a couple of threads going on about this. But to repeat myself, it's not like there is an animal control dept, or shelters to actually enforce any of it, so pretty usual Thai worthless proclamation. Then you come down to the rotten truth, that Thai's don't actually have the same love for pets that most of us in the West do. At best they get fed, but for the majority they just roam the streets, fend for themselves, and as for veterinary care...dream on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said: Well I guess there are a couple of threads going on about this. But to repeat myself, it's not like there is an animal control dept, or shelters to actually enforce any of it, so pretty usual Thai worthless proclamation. Then you come down to the rotten truth, that Thai's don't actually have the same love for pets that most of us in the West do. At best they get fed, but for the majority they just roam the streets, fend for themselves, and as for veterinary care...dream on! Re your above words that I put in bold. I know many Thais who own cats and dogs who give them the same care and love that I give my dog of 12 years or that other westerners give. But your last sentence is certainly very correct. I see lots of that in Thailand too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 glad the animals got a reprieve. any word of a flip flop on the UK Embassy income letter debacle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 minute ago, NCC1701A said: glad the animals got a reprieve. any word of a flip flop on the UK Embassy income letter debacle? No, that's in the 20 year plan. You're screwed! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unamazedloso Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 what a load of bs. if you cant afford it you shouldn't be responsible for it. all im saying. this would have been one of the best moves in to the modern era. the burden to the public and tourism from the disgusting dogs is much worse. i guess it was never a problem for the hisos to recognize and just a way to get money given the u turn. so stupid!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Irresponsible cowards... They want to bury heads in the sand and hope the problem will go a way. If an owner can not afford 450B then obviously they can not afford to care for that animal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoilSpoil Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 u-turns make a circle. Dogs and cats are a serious problem here, people get mauled or rabiesallthe time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, NCC1701A said: glad the animals got a reprieve. any word of a flip flop on the UK Embassy income letter debacle? Well, it took "ten thousands of people sharing stories and many more commenting on the matter" to turn this one around. Turning round the awesome British ship of state may take quite a few matelots leaning on the wheel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post user564545 Posted October 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2018 pet lovers cried foul over the high fee for the registration document, and threatened to abandon their pets. So, not really pet lovers then"? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 My Mrs was having a rant about this yesterday. All our cats have come from the local <deleted> dumping cuttings nearby. I told her yesterday, leave the next one don't feed it don't hold it. If the dog or our cats kill it, the karma is on those who dumped the kitten. Idea #2 was to pass it on to the police. They work for the government let them sort it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 so, if pet owners had to register their pet mutts, would Prayut lead the way and register Prawit?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, darksidedog said: Flip! Flop! Almost seems part of the standard operating procedure here. Bring out a cunning plan, introduce it with gusto, then decide its not so cunning, and pull the plug. The hub of U-turns! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 ????And how many people could afford to pay 25,000 baht fines and how were they going to police it , it’s October not the 1st of April???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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