10 hours ago, darksidedog said:

Flip! Flop! Almost seems part of the standard operating procedure here.

Bring out a cunning plan, introduce it with gusto, then decide its not so cunning, and pull the plug.

Nothing can surprise me.  When do we get a Prime minister who make his MP's & cabinet responsible for their continued cabinet position for the outcome of every time they open their mouth?  And those ministers each have a P.R department who make all announcements of policy or ideas after ministerial consultation, instead of letting Civil Servants just open their mouths at will and say what ever comes into their empty little heads    Of course we might miss the entertainment of the flip flops but it would show some maturity and that would actually be newsworthy in itself.

"A rethink on the way forward is now in the pipeline. "

 

That's B.S.ese for "Let's forget this whole thing now shall we?"

Getting a licence to drive a vehicle can be a bit of a burden too .

..maybe should relax that requirement also?

the soi dogs are a burden, why they not take care of this problem first?

20 minutes ago, joskeshake said:

the soi dogs are a burden, why they not take care of this problem first?

They do not really see them as a problem, that's the problem

Stupid is an often abused word. In Thailand when it comes to governing bodies, Stupid does not begin to cover the idiocy of appointed governing bodies. As an owner of five cats, all spayed, all caged at night one being a house nut, two birds and an unknown creature, all caged and well cared for, I do want or need some tight arse suit and tie jerk governing every minute of everyone's day. Take a break and go back to the massage palour.

13 hours ago, petermik said:

The government wants total concentration on the upcoming "elections" and no sidetracking on lesser issues......difficult enough here deciding how many chillies in todays somtam without all this to contend with  ????

funny

13 hours ago, neeray said:

I think you just described why a "20 year plan" wouldn't work either.

 

What if it was a bad plan, not thought out ?!

 

12 hours ago, webfact said:

Pet registration bill to be rethought after public fury and worries over fallout

By KORNRAWEE PANYASUPPAKUN 
THE NATION

 

File photo

 

A BILL approved by the Cabinet making it mandatory to register dogs and cats was derailed yesterday after pet lovers cried foul over the high fee for the registration document, and threatened to abandon their pets.
 

The bill, which got the Cabinet nod on Wednesday, allows municipalities to charge a maximum fee of Bt450 – Bt50 for registration, Bt100 for a book of identity and Bt300 for identification tools such as microchips. 

 

 

It sets the maximum fine for violation at Bt25,000. However, the bill does not specify where the money will go or how it would be spent to improve animal welfare. 

 

“We don’t object if the government charges registration fees, but the amount must be appropriate and the agency must explain how the income is spent,” wrote the Watchdog Thailand page. 

 

“Personally, I think it [the registration bill] doesn’t tackle the problems, but makes them worse. Who will want to adopt stray cats and dog?” wrote the admin of Moh Maew Yak Bok Tard Maew Facebook Page (What a cat doctor wants to tell cat lovers).

 

The pricey fees will discourage owners from adopting pets and may even encourage some to abandon their dogs and cats on the street or in the care of temples to avoid paying the fees, according to comments in social media in response to the bill. 

 

Bill to be reconsidered

 

“If the bill was passed into the law, more dogs would be abandoned, uncared for, starve and spaying or neutering is harder. The dogs will also be at greater risk of rabies, said Dr Thiravat Hemachudha, a rabies expert and professor at Chulalongkorn University’s Faculty of Medicine.

 

Instead of charging high fees from people who help take care of unwanted dogs and cats out of kindness, the government should ask for their cooperation to get the animals spayed and neutered as well as vaccinated for rabies, he said. 

 

Following the public outcry, the Cabinet will reconsider the bill. 

 

At its core, the bill intends to regulate family pets and reduce the number of strays, but the Cabinet promised not to make registration a burden for people. 

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha was worried that if the registration move led to people abandoning their pets, the municipality, the City Hall, or the Agriculture Ministry would not be able to take care of these unwanted pets,” Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam said yesterday. 

 

The Livestock Development Department agreed to take the bill back for reviewing, as it might create too much burden for the people, director-general Sorawit Thaneto said yesterday.

 

The bill, in fact, aims to prevent pet owners from abandoning their pets and to provide welfare for the unwanted ones. With such a law, families would be required by law to provided good care for their pets, and thus reduce the number of stray dogs and cats, he explained. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30356285

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-12

 

12 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Are you sure you don't mean 'pull the pug'?

 

 

12 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Are you sure you don't mean 'pull the pug'?

 

China doesn't have problems with dogs.Perhaps their policy on keeping a dog could be adopted in Thailand. One dog per household .     keeping a dog in china.com. 

21 hours ago, KiChakayan said:

Any one who may have hopes on Thailand moving into modernity, in due course, at the right juncture, in the fullness of time, should think about making a U turn to go home.

Yep. Return to 23rdC UK, acid attacks, street knifings, homeless folks, terrorist killings, high prices, low wages, impossible house prices. Civilization!! After you.

When they flip flop and "pull the plug" 'tis a pity that a few idiots don't go down the drain at the same time! 

I was wondering what the law would mean for soi dogs. Rounded up and sold for Viet BBQ?

21 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Checked Florida USA cost and it is $15 and California $16 - so proposed Thailand cost does appear a bit on the high side.  

DOGS
License fee	$28.00 (before deductions)
Dog Park fee	$2.00 (Bylaw No. 14 – 2014)
Total	$30.00 (before deductions)
Spay/Neuter deduction	$13.00
Rabies Vaccination deduction	$3.00
Total cost after deductions	$14.00

 

The above (CA$) is the current fee in my home town in Canada!

Thailand WAKE UP, if anyone wants to have an animal as a pet then why not make it a law to registrate the animal be it a dog, cat, squirrel of buffalo then there is traceability regarding the animal, stop all this pussy footing around and make laws that mean something instead of confusing every issue

This country isn't ready for this quiet yet , a voluntary arrangement maybe with a chip implant, but to ask some of the kind people who care for the Soi dog then to pay 500 baht for a registration is a bit much considering the whole of this dog problem wouldn't have come about in the first place if someone hadn't taken in a couple of strays and therefore turned the whole she bang upside down and now its considered by many Thai's the dog is protected. 

A post using a foreign language has been removed.  English is the only acceptable language anywhere on ThaiVisa including Classifieds, except within the Thai language forum, where of course using Thai is allowed. 

1 hour ago, Prairieboy said:

DOGS
License fee	$28.00 (before deductions)
Dog Park fee	$2.00 (Bylaw No. 14 – 2014)
Total	$30.00 (before deductions)
Spay/Neuter deduction	$13.00
Rabies Vaccination deduction	$3.00
Total cost after deductions	$14.00

 

The above (CA$) is the current fee in my home town in Canada!

So we just adopted another cat as a playmate for our Thai cat (hugely expense relo, but I’m trying getting to get over that).

So, Ying Noi cost $57 from the shelter. She was already spayed and had her rabies shot. We got a free vet exam as part of the adoption fee.

The whole notion of ‘pets’ in Thailand is so far outside of my thinking it’s pointless trying to rationalize it.

 

Now I just watch both cats playing together and it brings a smile to my face

The problem, like always when its comes to introduce civilized laws into Thailand, lays in the assumption that Thailand is already a developed country...unfortunately is still 3 grade.

When I arrived 25 years ago I thought that this could be achieved in 20 years...wishful thinking (or thinking not at all) 

23 hours ago, anterian said:

The 1% at the top truly have no understanding of how the 40% at the bottom live. The finance system illustrates this, a poor Thai can buy a motorbike because he can buy on credit, but a helmet at 3000 Baht needs cash, which he cannot afford. So he breaks the law.  

Even if said helmet was given for free, he wouldn't weare it.

18 hours ago, masuk said:

Maybe high fines, damages costs and medical costs for anti-rabies shots when one of their pets has a piece of someone?

 Yes high fines and the 'pet' should be put down.

On 10/12/2018 at 9:09 AM, james.d said:

Why not just scrap every single law here already passed and any that may be in the pipeline.. would win plenty of votes.

What's the point in scrapping the laws, no one enforces them apart from pocket money, the minority who obey them would be the very few to gain from scrapping laws

And if your in Phuket don't forget to renew your Crocodile registration.