Lamkyong Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 due to the Thai / pound exchange rates I am now 3000 bht short of the required 40.000 monthly income as the ex-rate is hardly unlikely to improve also if the embassy is no longer producing income letter will immigration any alternative ie imm accepting bank statements if all of income what alternatives can i use ie visa could i apply for i am married and over 50 also i have here lived for eight years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Deposit the shortfall in your account so that when your ‘income’ is deposited from abroad the combination of income and cash totals more than 40,000 Bt. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbi1 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 METV or Elite Visa, those are the two choices. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmaxdan Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you're applying for a marriage extension then what about 400,000 baht deposited in a Thai bank account in your name? Of course not everyone wants to tie up large sums of money here, especially with the weak pound. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poanoi Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 as far as i can remember, the combination is not valid for marry visa, i also cant remember keeping it in savings was valid, but since you are 50, you can change to retirement visa, altho that is a much steeper requirement, or hire an agent, which cost 10 times more 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If desperate or lazy use an agent, under 13k a year, first year 20k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, tgeezer said: Deposit the shortfall in your account so that when your ‘income’ is deposited from abroad the combination of income and cash totals more than 40,000 Bt. Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect That is not allowed for extensions of stay based upon marriage. The combination option is only for retirement extensions. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 If 45 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: if all of income what alternatives can i use ie visa could i apply for For the extension based upon mariage you can average your income for the past year to reach the 40 baht income. If you have records of how much you got in baht for the past year and it is a total of 480k or more you could show proof of that to meet 40k baht income requirement. If you cannot meet the income or money in the bank requirement you could get a multiple entry non-o visa in Savannakhet without financial proof being needed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lamkyong Posted October 13, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 thanks, for reply i did the calc but only 456 @ todays rate please can you please advise details of how to apply for this visa how much and do i have to leave the country every 90 days or please what is the most user freindly way thanks 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 49 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: If desperate or lazy use an agent, under 13k a year, first year 20k any suggestions as to the names of such agents ?live i deepest kalasin area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: thanks, for reply i did the calc but only 456 @ todays rate please can you please advise details of how to apply for this visa how much and do i have to leave the country every 90 days or please what is the most user freindly way thanks You have to use the exchange rate you got for every transfer into the country for a the past year for it to work. For example if you got 43k baht for 6 months of the year and 37k baht for the other 6 months that would be a total of 480k baht for the year. It would require having a bank book or some other proof showing how much you got every month. To get a multiple entry non-o visa you would apply at the consulate in Savannakhet. You would need your marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card signed by her. A copy of your passport photo page and the Lao VOA/entry page. A completed application form (download: Savannakhet 2501-01-31.PDF). Then pay the 5000 bath fee for it. You apply the morning of one day and pick up your passport the next afternoon. You would have to leave the country every 90 days or you could apply for 60 day day extension of each 90 day entry to visit your wife. You can get almost 17 months of total stay from the visa by getting a new 90 day entry just before the date it expires and a 60 day extension of that entry. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ratcatcher Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: If desperate or lazy use an agent, under 13k a year, first year 20k Just remember there's a new boss at Immigration Dept. I'm not Joking. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 any suggestions as to the names of such agents ?live i deepest kalasin areaI don't know your area, but you can try to find an agent who has contacts with your immigration office. Go in the shop and ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: If desperate or lazy use an agent, under 13k a year, first year 20k 16 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: any suggestions as to the names of such agents ?live i deepest kalasin area Lamkyong, as you live in Kasalin, you're not far from Savannakhet. I would suggest you that explore UJ's advice rather than use an agent. It will probably be cheaper and, most importantly, you'll know that it will be legal. See Ratchatcher's comment above. Edited October 13, 2018 by Moonlover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Just remember there's a new boss at Immigration Dept. I'm not Joking.I thought it was a big joke? We don't know the impact on agents yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJAS Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: but only 456 @ todays rate And which rate are you using? Immigration tend to calculate compliance with income requirements on the basis of Bangkok Bank's Bank Notes Buying Rate (currently 42.32). You can ascertain the corresponding rate for each of the other days when you made a transfer, as advised by ubonjoe, through the following link:- https://www.bangkokbank.com/en/Personal/Other-Services/View-Rates/Foreign-Exchange-Rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted October 13, 2018 Author Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, ubonjoe said: That is not allowed for extensions of stay based upon marriage. The combination option is only for retirement extensions. but if i deposit the full 400.000 and to use for future proof are their any other things I should be aware of ie restrictions except the 3 month seasoning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lamkyong said: but if i deposit the full 400.000 and to use for future proof are their any other things I should be aware of ie restrictions except the 3 month seasoning No restrictions other than it has to be in the bank for 2 months (3 is for retirement extensions) on the date you apply and in your name only. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgeezer Posted October 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2018 any suggestions as to the names of such agents ?live i deepest kalasin areaTake into account that your status as a married man with a Thai wife with the financial resources to sustain your family is the prime reason to grant PTS. Your circumstances are provided for under the Immigration Act which makes no mention of specific sums of money or income so if your case is genuine the act doesn't require you to have specific resources or to leave the country for any reason other than your choosing. There are many cases of people using irregular means to circumventing the spirit of the law and with the collusion of some Immigration officers, if you are not one of those there should be no need to contemplate backdoor deals. It is no secret that the pound has lost value and your situation is shared by many people so in your position I would make representation through official channels. This may seem incredibly naive of me, especially by people who regularly use irregular means to stay in this country but, honesty and sinserity of purpose can count a great deal. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Take into account that your status as a married man with a Thai wife with the financial resources to sustain your family is the prime reason to grant PTS. Your circumstances are provided for under the Immigration Act which makes no mention of specific sums of money or income so if your case is genuine the act doesn't require you to have specific resources or to leave the country for any reason other than your choosing. There are many cases of people using irregular means to circumventing the spirit of the law and with the collusion of some Immigration officers, if you are not one of those there should be no need to contemplate backdoor deals. It is no secret that the pound has lost value and your situation is shared by many people so in your position I would make representation through official channels. This may seem incredibly naive of me, especially by people who regularly use irregular means to stay in this country but, honesty and sinserity of purpose can count a great deal. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appYou're suggesting they will make allowances because of the GBP drop. Any evidence of that? The only allowances I've heard of are in the shape of bungs / tips 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, tgeezer said: Take into account that your status as a married man with a Thai wife with the financial resources to sustain your family is the prime reason to grant PTS. Your circumstances are provided for under the Immigration Act which makes no mention of specific sums of money or income so if your case is genuine the act doesn't require you to have specific resources or to leave the country for any reason other than your choosing. Could you please provide the section of the immigration act of 1979 that states that. I don't think you can provide it since no such clause exists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If one is slightly short of the average 40K/month for a year, would it not be possible to return, say 40/50K to the UK and then re-transfer it.?Payments into the Thai bank would then exceed 480,000Baht over the full year.. Note that if UK state pension is paid directly to a Thai bank account it is paid every 28 days, therefore there are 13 deposits showing in the passbook over a full year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 A multiple entry non-o visa is being mooted as an alternative to to 'retirement visas'..But what are the implications of such visas? Are they easy yo obtain? Are they easy to renew? If they are easy and cheap why do people bother with extensions based retirement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 minute ago, The manic said: A multiple entry non-o visa is being mooted as an alternative to to 'retirement visas'..But what are the implications of such visas? Are they easy yo obtain? Are they easy to renew? If they are easy and cheap why do people bother with extensions based retirement? This only works if youre married to a Thai, & the disadvantage compared to an extension is that you have to leave the country every 90 days with all the attendant costs, with an extension you just fill a form in at your nearest immigration office without leaving the country, much cheaper & doesn't waste 1 1/2 passport pages every 90 days.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, The manic said: A multiple entry non-o visa is being mooted as an alternative to to 'retirement visas'.. In which topic? It has only been mentioned in this topic for the OP who is married to a Thai. The only nearby location that will issue a multiple entry non-o visa for retirement is Penang and it requires 800k bath in the bank for proof of 65k baht income to apply for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 hours ago, ubonjoe said: No restrictions other than it has to be in the bank for 2 months (3 is for retirement extensions) on the date you apply and in your name only. Does the 400,000 baht have to come from abroad or will Immigration accept monies placed into the account in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Might sound daft, but can you not just send the money back to the UK you when here and then resend it again a few times ? OK you'd lose money in transfers fees and currency changes , but strictly it would not be illegal i suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Could you please provide the section of the immigration act of 1979 that states that. I don't think you can provide it since no such clause exists.You are correct of course, I can't prove a negative. As far as I can see The Act provides for people to stay temporarily in the Kingdom, diplomats, students, sportsmen all the way down to most of us who are 4-34-15 I think, namely 'other purposes.' The conditions under which we are able to stay is not stipulated in The Act. The Act is executed by means of a panel of civil servants presided over by the director and it is they who stipulate the conditions which qualify as 'other' and it was their predecessors and preceding MPs who formulated the Act in the first place. What we are referring to as laws are ministerial regulations which carry the force of law only if the commission approves them when they are applied. The act provides for appeal to this commision in the case of permission to stay being withdrawn and it is this appeal to which I refer. I see the changes which happened in my memory whereby three months of deposit required for extension of stay, extensions of stay not being considered 90 day reports, visa changes in country, etc. as examples of how the rules can be changed when circumstances change. As I said I may be naive but I think that it is worth a try. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgeezer Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 You're suggesting they will make allowances because of the GBP drop. Any evidence of that? The only allowances I've heard of are in the shape of bungs / tips"bungs/tips" are not provided for in The Act. I can see no better reason to consider a drop in the pound as qualifying for a change in the rules where the alternative is to break up a 'genuine' family where at least one member is a Thai citizen with voting rights. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, vogie said: Does the 400,000 baht have to come from abroad or will Immigration accept monies placed into the account in Thailand? There is no requirement for it to come from abroad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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