webfact Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Pheu Thai, Allies Could Be Disbanded, Election Official Warns By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter Former Pheu Thai MP and Redshirt leader Jatuporn Prompan, third from left, talks to reporters at a general meeting of Pheu Chart Party on Sunday. BANGKOK — A Pheu Thai spokeswoman lashed out Tuesday at the Election Commission after it suggested that the party and its allies could be dissolved on the ground of illegal collaboration. Election Commission sec-gen Charungwit Phumma told reporters Monday that officials would look into whether Pheu Tham and Pheu Chart are serving as shell parties for Pheu Thai, which he said would violate election laws. The party’s spokeswoman called for a due process if the investigation was to proceed. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2018/10/16/pheu-thai-allies-face-disbandment-election-official-warns/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-10-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 But, but... Wissanu said there was no problem! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 39 minutes ago, webfact said: Election Commission sec-gen Charungwit Phumma told reporters Monday that officials would look into whether Pheu Tham and Pheu Chart are serving as shell parties for Pheu Thai, which he said would violate election laws. Not that I'm a fan of PT by any means, but that's assuming he means that he's been told to say it, therefore preparing the ground when the EC are instructed that PT have been discovered to violate election laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 They are still the only real opposition to the Feb fix, sorry election, so simpler just to snuff them out now just in case they may actually win,highly unlikely but covers all the bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 The junta will never exhaust ways to try eliminate PTP. 2 coups in this decade and the courts and EC working diligently following orders to rid Thaksin regime. They know they never win and they will do a Hun Sen and eliminate the oppositions. However they dealing with an opposition that also have a power base and will not easily do away. Their supporters are infuriated with successive attempts and have always responded overwhelmingly at the ballot boxes. This time will be no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 In every future (if any) Thai election, Thaksin will support a party, and that party will win. That's the reality of the game, the only way the general (ake the elites) can win, is not to have an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: The junta will never exhaust ways to try eliminate PTP. 2 coups in this decade and the courts and EC working diligently following orders to rid Thaksin regime. They know they never win and they will do a Hun Sen and eliminate the oppositions. However they dealing with an opposition that also have a power base and will not easily do away. Their supporters are infuriated with successive attempts and have always responded overwhelmingly at the ballot boxes. This time will be no different. Maybe Thaksin should try to keep out of politics for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 45 minutes ago, Thailand said: They are still the only real opposition to the Feb fix, sorry election, so simpler just to snuff them out now just in case they may actually win,highly unlikely but covers all the bases. This government must be really afraid of the election results now. The way they are headed there will only be the PPP government party and the Democrats left to vote for in a "free and fair" election. 7 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Maybe Thaksin should try to keep out of politics for a change. Maybe the government should also keep out of politics too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hopefully they do ban the Pheu Thai party. The blow-back from that action will be interesting to watch in the North and North-East as huge numbers of rural Thais are disenfranchised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Maybe Thaksin should try to keep out of politics for a change. Thaksin and PTP or whatever his next incarnation is will never change, continue to treat laws as not applicable to them and then moan when caught breaking them and punished. He still wants his dream Shin political family dynasty - never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Wait for it... Wait for it....... Wait for it ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Thaksin and PTP or whatever his next incarnation is will never change, continue to treat laws as not applicable to them and then moan when caught breaking them and punished. He still wants his dream Shin political family dynasty - never change. No different from the current government then. My apologies. The current government back in 2014 granted themselves an amnesty for ALL past, present and FUTURE acts. Far more than Thaksin ever did or even tried to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Maybe Thaksin should try to keep out of politics for a change. Can I ask you why Thaksin should keep out. Is it for corruption or being a serious threat to the establishment and the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 ...and after all unwanted parties are gone the brothers in arms will give you a perfect democratic election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: The junta will never exhaust ways to try eliminate PTP. 2 coups in this decade and the courts and EC working diligently following orders to rid Thaksin regime. They know they never win and they will do a Hun Sen and eliminate the oppositions. However they dealing with an opposition that also have a power base and will not easily do away. Their supporters are infuriated with successive attempts and have always responded overwhelmingly at the ballot boxes. This time will be no different. To be expected from this round of military rulers. There's quite a rich history of such repressive political activity going way back. No revelations really, except towards those who don't pay attention to recent developments and contemporary history. The greater difference, in comparative terms, might be that the general population and respective "oppositions" are far more knowledgeable and sophisticated, refusing to play into the martyr syndrome - things are quite different today. It's quite obvious that the ruling Junta is sensing threats from all corners and the reality that their dominance might be fading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: In every future (if any) Thai election, Thaksin will support a party, and that party will win. That's the reality of the game, the only way the general (ake the elites) can win, is not to have an election. Thaksin doesn't support a party. He IS the Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 59 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Can I ask you why Thaksin should keep out. Is it for corruption or being a serious threat to the establishment and the military. Because he is a convicted criminal, and there are a few more cases waiting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, FritsSikkink said: Because he is a convicted criminal, and there are a few more cases waiting for him. Unlike the parties and accusers that brought the charges and continue to rule with an exempted and corrupted iron fist. Pure as the driven snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said: Because he is a convicted criminal, and there are a few more cases waiting for him. Convicted against those who commit corruption and will never ever be convicted. Think Suthep and the generals. By the way, any news of watchgate? Carrying on drinking those junta kool-aid mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 50 minutes ago, zzaa09 said: To be expected from this round of military rulers. There's quite a rich history of such repressive political activity going way back. No revelations really, except towards those who don't pay attention to recent developments and contemporary history. The greater difference, in comparative terms, might be that the general population and respective "oppositions" are far more knowledgeable and sophisticated, refusing to play into the martyr syndrome - things are quite different today. It's quite obvious that the ruling Junta is sensing threats from all corners and the reality that their dominance might be fading. Agree 100%. There are new politics in play now. People are better informed and the paradigm has been shifted. The military can't continue to use the same tactic to suppress freedom without threat of some sort of retaliation from the people or the new regime. Prayut's 4+ years in power exposed the ambition of the military and individual that is intoxicated with power and thus a threat to the people and the new regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Eric Loh said: Can I ask you why Thaksin should keep out. Is it for corruption or being a serious threat to the establishment and the military. Corruption total disregard for the law.. so yes Thaksin should be gone same as Suthep. These two do nothing but cause trouble. Also he is on the run.. if he can't come back to face justice why should he be allowed to run a party from a distance (besides that its now against the law as it should have been all along) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Convicted against those who commit corruption and will never ever be convicted. Think Suthep and the generals. By the way, any news of watchgate? Carrying on drinking those junta kool-aid mate. Your always banging the same drum.. yes he is a crook but other crooks are not punished so he should not either. Progressive people would not bang that drum, they would start by removing Thaksin and then the other lawbreakers. Your way only causes more damage because nobody will ever follow the law then. Its a bit strange that someone like you who supposedly loves democracy hates the rule of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, robblok said: Your always banging the same drum.. yes he is a crook but other crooks are not punished so he should not either. Progressive people would not bang that drum, they would start by removing Thaksin and then the other lawbreakers. Your way only causes more damage because nobody will ever follow the law then. Its a bit strange that someone like you who supposedly loves democracy hates the rule of law. Its been how long since TS was out of the country? How is that other lawbreaker punishment coming along..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, smutcakes said: Its been how long since TS was out of the country? How is that other lawbreaker punishment coming along..... Seen quite a few that have been punished so yes it does happen. Certainly not for everyone but as long as you allow people like him flaunt the law it sets a bad example and it will never work. So keep on making excuses for him. The guy is a convicted criminal with many cases against him with a track record of corruption. Do you really think that he should be leading a party ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 So if they do get dissolved, does that mean the only choices would be P Prayut and/or his shell parties ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Maybe Thaksin should try to keep out of politics for a change. Topping the list of people who should keep out of politics: 1. The military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, FritsSikkink said: Because he is a convicted criminal, and there are a few more cases waiting for him. Sure, in a country where there is no due process and the courts are not independent of the political whims of those in power. You are just taking sides with no consideration of the Thai people's desires. If Thaksin is so powerful and the Thai people want him, then the junta and the yellows really need to do some really deep soul searching, because it speaks to their ineffectiveness. Did Thaksin become powerful because others are just far too stupid and delusional to compete with him? Why is he so powerful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 One day we might realize who's behind all the universal crookedness and secretive corruption. Blanketing all - regardless of political/social corners. Most can't, or won't, see it. Creating a false surface to justify whatever their support or bias might be. It's all the same theatre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzaa09 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, chickenslegs said: Topping the list of people who should keep out of politics: 1. The military. 2. And other influential types that can't named. ???? [....and most still aren't able to connect the real dots] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 4 hours ago, FritsSikkink said: Maybe Thaksin should try to keep out of politics for a change. Perhaps the Junta should as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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