SCOTT FITZGERSLD Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) Just now, jrjrjr said: This is clearly the truth that so many narrow minded grumpy expats will never be able to understand. How funny it is that they think that their low so life is all Thai people life... most thai people are very poor in western terms. 30-40 % are unemployed. 90-95% of the workers are earning starvation salaries of 6900-20000 baht a month. so no, thai people do not support all those malls. truth is that most malls in pattaya as well as in bangkok are surviving on tourists money, be it farang or chinese. another truth is that many malls and chain restaurants operate on borrowed money and wdo not justofy their operations. and truth is that in thailand there is a small group of very rich , who are so loaded with money that they open more and more malls even if those malls lose. one prove for that are the thai cinema chains. you get the first world , state of the art cinemas, but most of them are usually empty and don't show a profit. i know cause i love going to movies in thailand. it allways feels like a private cinema. the whole cinema hall just for yourself. Edited October 24, 2018 by SCOTT FITZGERSLD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: the whole cinema hall just for yourself. "The Avenue" cinemas are good for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jrjrjr Posted October 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: most thai people are very poor in western terms. 30-40 % are unemployed. 90-95% of the workers are earning starvation salaries of 6900-20000 baht a month. so no, thai people do not support all those malls. truth is that most malls in pattaya as well as in bangkok are surviving on tourists money, be it farang or chinese. another truth is that many malls and chain restaurants operate on borrowed money and wdo not justofy their operations. and truth is that in thailand there is a small group of very rich , who are so loaded with money that they open more and more malls even if those malls lose. one prove for that are the thai cinema chains. you get the first world , state of the art cinemas, but most of them are usually empty and don't show a profit. i know cause i love going to movies in thailand. it allways feels like a private cinema. the whole cinema hall just for yourself. No Thai gets less than 9000 thb. Unemployment rate is one of the lowest in the world. Open your eyes, most Thai are not poor Esaan farmers ! I know more loaded Thai than I ever knew loaded farangs back home. Do you also think that most Thai women work in bars ? RIDICULOUS foreigner opinion. Edited October 24, 2018 by jrjrjr 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT FITZGERSLD Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, jrjrjr said: No Thai gets less than 9000 thb. Unemployment rate is one of the lowest in the world. Open your eyes, most Thai are not poor Esaan farmers ! YOU are the one ho need to open eyes. most thais ARE POOR EASARN FARMERS !! and when you count them too, when you see the full picture, than the real umemployment rate is 30-40%, and the min. salary de facto is 4000-5000 baht. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: YOU are the one ho need to open eyes. most thais ARE POOR EASARN FARMERS !! and when you count them too, when you see the full picture, than the real umemployment rate is 30-40%, and the min. salary de facto is 4000-5000 baht. The unemployment rate for any Thai woman between the age of 18 and 45 who is even half way attractive is 0% because they could work in any beer bar... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCOTT FITZGERSLD Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Just now, fforest1 said: The unemployment rate for any Thai woman between the age of 18 and 45 who is even half way attractive is 0% because they could work in any beer bar... even in a beer bar they hardly makes ends (=som tam + rent of a bed with three room mates) meet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Makes You Wonder... Ferangs come here, and in general get involved with a poor Thai Girl/Family, and overnight become Champions of the Poor. All rather weird to me. Back Home they didnt give a rats ass about poor, or would they be seen dead driving a Truck. The fools buy Gold for them , yet only spent a few $ on Dear Old Mom that raised them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 The unemployment rate for any Thai woman between the age of 18 and 45 who is even half way attractive is 0% because they could work in any beer bar...The official unemployment rate is nonsense really, how many people do you see trying to sell food on the street who are lucky to sell a few things a day, plus those street hawkers, then you have the mobile furniture sellers etc etc. Also how many girls Isaan parents are doing nothing up at the farm waiting for their money to turn up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Makes You Wonder... Ferangs come here, and in general get involved with a poor Thai Girl/Family, and overnight become Champions of the Poor. All rather weird to me. Back Home they didnt give a rats ass about poor, or would they be seen dead driving a Truck. The fools buy Gold for them , yet only spent a few $ on Dear Old Mom that raised them.Having a truck here is almost mandatory along with the building a house 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted October 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: most thai people are very poor in western terms. 30-40 % are unemployed. 90-95% of the workers are earning starvation salaries of 6900-20000 baht a month. so no, thai people do not support all those malls. truth is that most malls in pattaya as well as in bangkok are surviving on tourists money, be it farang or chinese. another truth is that many malls and chain restaurants operate on borrowed money and wdo not justofy their operations. and truth is that in thailand there is a small group of very rich , who are so loaded with money that they open more and more malls even if those malls lose. one prove for that are the thai cinema chains. you get the first world , state of the art cinemas, but most of them are usually empty and don't show a profit. i know cause i love going to movies in thailand. it allways feels like a private cinema. the whole cinema hall just for yourself. Where are you getting 30-40% unemployment from, Thailand has full employment. 20k a month isnt starvation wages, thats what a teacher, bank worker, middle class Thai earns, with that they buy houses, cars, and go on overseas holidays. If 95% are on starvation wages, who is buying all the new cars on the roads, or the 80% home ownership rate. I went to T21 with Thai friends and family today, they spent more money than I did, it looked like they were supporting the mall to me. Edited October 24, 2018 by Peterw42 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted October 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: YOU are the one ho need to open eyes. most thais ARE POOR EASARN FARMERS !! and when you count them too, when you see the full picture, than the real umemployment rate is 30-40%, and the min. salary de facto is 4000-5000 baht. How can most thais be poor issan farmers when the entire population of issan is only one third of the Thai population ? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 1:20 PM, champers said: Unless you have personally invested in a mall, why worry? You're a man/lady after my own heart...I often ask myself the same question. Lots of times I see on here questions like "Anybody know what they're building on so-and-so site"...and I say to myself "why would people concern themselves about such things"...I didn't even when back home...let alone a development somewhere in Asia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 You're a man/lady after my own heart...I often ask myself the same question. Lots of times I see on here questions like "Anybody know what they're building on so-and-so site"...and I say to myself "why would people concern themselves about such things"...I didn't even when back home...let alone a development somewhere in Asia?Its a wonder you use a forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said: Makes You Wonder... Ferangs come here, and in general get involved with a poor Thai Girl/Family, and overnight become Champions of the Poor. All rather weird to me. Back Home they didnt give a rats ass about poor, or would they be seen dead driving a Truck. The fools buy Gold for them , yet only spent a few $ on Dear Old Mom that raised them. I often wonder about the trucks as well, Why the need for a truck if you live in BKK or Pattaya etc, a trip to Big C once a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Need a big truck for "big face" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 In Bangkok at least when the Middle Eastern women go shopping, they go shopping. Price is not a factor for most of them & yes they buy a lot of stuff for kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 12:37 PM, sexyman said: the Chinese have got many choices in China with the same goods easily available in there. Then why are the malls like Paragon loaded with only chinese going to the designershops? They do the same in Europe and in Swiss they all go to those huge watchshops.( which even have chinese staff); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Malls are born and then they die. Who remembers December in Bangkok (I know this is the Pattaya sub-forum)? It remained on life support for around 3 years before finally succumbing. Asians are no slouches at redeveloping. It just gets knocked down and becomes something else, probably a condo nowadays. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted October 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2018 20 hours ago, fforest1 said: Well in Bangkok the number of malls is insane....Yet they keep building more and more all the time....Its hard to believe that Pattaya can support so many malls but it some how seems to... The reason is clear - the traffic is so bad getting to the next one 500m away will take four hours. Pattaya is headed that way too, eternal gridlock, so expect malls every walking distance, which for Thais is about 50m. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Id go to the Opening of an Envelope years ago. Now ive got Lazadaitis. . Why not.?..We wanted hot/cold water dispenser,2 illuminated keyboards, 8 new pillows. Kerry bring on Saturday, pay de Man. Malls are not much fun less U Young. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said: i know cause i love going to movies in thailand. it allways feels like a private cinema. the whole cinema hall just for yourself. Give or take a couple of polar bears. I stopped going when my vision got too blurry from my teeth chattering together. They must have 50 Billion BTU units there to get it so close to absolute zero. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Jingthing said: All these amazing and wonderful unique new restaurants in there, yet the same old chains that already exist here other places were totally packed with Thais. Talk about being unadventurous. Ah. Now that you mention it, yes, Thais use the "go to where it's full" strategy to avoid the places with crappy food. The savvy restaurateurs should hire some of the wondering farangs to sit at their place to make it look more popular. Which I think these freebies are all about, it's a death match, round 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 10 hours ago, GWS said: You would be suprised how many BBK people shop in Pattaya on weekends. Having 3-4 big shopping malls so close to each other, all within a 10-15 minute drive of each other is something that is not possible in most areas of Bangkok which makes Pattaya appealing for some. So true. The first thing my Bangkok relatives do when they come to visit is hit the malls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, newnative said: The first thing my Bangkok relatives do when they come to visit is hit the malls. Mine go to the seafood eateries at the end of Jomthien. Different folks, different strokes. Central brought in a mighty weekender invasion from BKK, especially when highway 7 was connected, but it has died down a fair bit as Pattaya got more and more congested. They probably figured could as well get stuck in traffic in BKK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 1:20 PM, champers said: Unless you have personally invested in a mall, why worry? I didn't see the word "worry" in the ops post. He simply posed a question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAKAPALITA Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Anyone remember the big one in Penang years ago. I enjoyed that Mall. After ten mins we ferangs all came and sat outside moaning about Visa Runs with a Cold One or 8 , whilst Thai girlfriends wandered about inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 From an economical aspect, the sustainability of all the Shopping Malls in Pattaya really isnt an issue. If a Mall ceases to be a viable source of revenue for the Developers, they will just close it down, and either sell the land at a huge prce, or develope yet another Condo on the site. Its a win , win for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I had a quick look round T21 today and yes i still dislike walking around malls. The subsidised cheap food court will get people there, i doubt I'll go back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I had a quick look round T21 today and yes i still dislike walking around malls. The subsidised cheap food court will get people there, i doubt I'll go back I'm currently going daily. On the way now. Haven't even tried the food court yet except for a decent 35 baht cappuccino. My first visit was a nightmare of crowded exhaustion but now that I know the layout I basically just head to where I'm going. BTW does anyone know if the food court will raise prices after their three month free rent thing? Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackhorse Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 T21 is all about the food and coffee shops plus supermarket . The one in BKK that I eat at daily is packed wall to wall and that's low seasonThey don't even have an electronic store or furniture shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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