Thailand makes HUGE changes to its laws on smoking in public

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, Commercial Diver said:

Laughter is good .. Duh, Cigarettes are an absolute ignorant & stupid choice 

Of lifestyles .. what good does smoking cigarettes bring .. ?

 Foolish, insecure people enriching tobacco companies .. (Why) to ensure poor health, wracking coughs and a dim-witted image for themselves  .. Please .. if you insist on your right to such a moronic habit, then Smoke over there somewhere ????‍♂️

If you’re serious, read ... Alan Carr’s “The Easy Way to Stop Smoking” 

 

42 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

 

In reality very few people are going to take your advice and go out and purchase a copy of said publication or even send off to Amazon for one. Folk are simply not going to do it and it's probably a load of waffle that's been printed simply to make money.

 

If it's such a boon to those wishing to quit tobacco as you seem to imply could you kindly take the trouble to explain in a couple of paragraphs the main points that are made in Carr's book. If your doing so results in just one smoker becoming an ex smoker then you will have made a valuable contribution to that individual's future well being.

It's actually a very good book for many of those who are determined to stop smoking.

 

Entirely off topic, but many years ago (before reading the book, but determined to stop smoking) - I used very similar methods/thoughts to quit the habit I hated.  (I'd quit before using will-power - but serious stress/trauma resulted in starting again....)  Of course there was the occasional 'addiction pangs' - but this time they only lasted moments as they just made me happy, knowing it was 'the monster' dying and complaining about it! ????

 

Unfortunately, more than 2 years later I went through something very traumatic, which resulted in long-lasting, physical pangs (my throat 'closed up', desperate for a cigarette).  I withstood this for 2 days, and then started smoking again ☹️.

 

About a year later, and again wanting to quit smoking again - I came across, and read, Carr's book.  I was taken aback at how it mirrored my own 'mental images' that enabled me to easily quit smoking a few years earlier!  The final section of the book however, mentioned that it's an entirely different 'ball game' for those with a psychological addiction...., which is when I finally realised that my psychological addiction meant that I would always end up smoking again when suffering serious stress/trauma - and so I gave up on giving up ☹️.

 

I apologise for this post being so far off-topic, but I get annoyed when some people, with no idea, spout nonsense about how easy it is for everyone to stop smoking!

[bobnuts]

Hmm, I guess the marketing campaign for "Classic, sexy women, low tar" cigarettes just came to a grinding halt.

 

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, cookieqw said:

And what do you do with your buttends. ??

You never heard of waste bins, or sand bins provided for butts....?

 

Hmmm, well I suppose I do hang out at posh venues....????

[stanleycoin]

37 minutes ago, transam said:

 

Hmmmm, well I am going to buy a traffic cone so I can stand in the middle of the road to avoid a fine...But I will be standing there thinking those diesel trucks passing by will be doing more harm than me....????

You may want to keep a low profile if you do that. 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2018 by stanleycoin

[HappyAndRich]

2 minutes ago, Mac98 said:

Can't wait for them to ban farting in occupied rooms. Then within 15 feet of an occupied room. Then altogether because it creates an ozone hole in the atmosphere.

Sorry to go of topic, but this comment really calls for it. Did you by any chance enter Thailand yesterday as a teenager together with parents or legal guardian?

That is about the level a not fully grown up person would lay and compare the discussion on. Or maybe it was supposed to be funny, what do I know. I might be totally wrong. You just lost me completely here.

[khunbillmex]

19 hours ago, pmh2009 said:

So what's next... prohibiting  of laughter???

555

[HappyAndRich]

31 minutes ago, tonboy said:

Many people die in road accidents and bad health due to alcohol. Especially in Thailand. Let's get this forbidden first. You agree ?

No, and I already tried to explain that subject before in this discussion, and will not try again.

 

And what is not forbidden with the subject your are mentioning? Driving drunk is already illegal and therefore forbidden.

Edited November 7, 2018 by HappyAndRich

[CanterbrigianBangkoker]

27 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

Relax <removed>...it's just the Internet.

 

Let me repeat for you - I don't care about the argument of second hand smoke killing me. It's unlikely as I choose not to hang around smokers.

 

I just don't like smoke or smokers. So, I am very happy to see these continual impediments.

 

We won. It's over. Get used to it.

 

 

 

I shall do no such thing. I'll flout the new laws as much as I can get away with an effort to irritate people such as yourself. You must stand up to bullies wherever you find them.

 

Notice you didn't begin to appraise my question / argument I put to you re: forthcoming abolition of other pass-times, following smoking. Interesting, I'm sure it's something you never considered.

 

 

Edited November 7, 2018 by CanterbrigianBangkoker

[Tchooptip]

18 hours ago, poanoi said:

i wont be able to comply if farting becomes outlawed,

will i at least be offered nembutal if i cant comply with law ?

 

i wont be able to comply if farting becomes outlawed,

 

Congratulation you've just have been named President of the T.V. Poetry Club

[Zyxel]

Smokers, just to be safe when you go out, keep this in your pocket:

 

[Monkeyrobot]

Thetsakit will have a tape measure on hand, and the 2000B fine. 

[Artisi]

20 hours ago, pmh2009 said:

So what's next... prohibiting  of laughter???

No, reduction of road deaths, but only the ones caused by smoking.. 

[DLock]

15 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

I shall do no such thing. I'll flout the new laws as much as I can get away with an effort to irritate people such as yourself. You must stand up to bullies wherever you find them.

 

Notice you didn't begin to appraise my question / argument I put to you re: forthcoming abolition of other pass-times, following smoking. Interesting, I'm sure it's something you never considered.

 

 

 

...and there Ladies and Gentlemen is the reason you smokers have such a bad name and your "rights" keep getting taken away.

 

Not only do you smell, but you attitudes do as well.

 

Carry on kid. 

 

 

[Tchooptip]

20 hours ago, pmh2009 said:

So what's next... prohibiting  of laughter???

 What's nex is that most will laugh at such a crazy comparison

[dick dasterdly]

21 minutes ago, cookieqw said:

And what do you do with your buttends. ??

 

16 minutes ago, transam said:

You never heard of waste bins, or sand bins provided for butts....?

 

Hmmm, well I suppose I do hang out at posh venues....????

????

 

Personally, I always have an empty tic tac container in my handbag for my butt-ends when 'out and about' - as there aren't many waste bins or sand bins provided.

 

When walking my dogs on the beach, I only take a few cigs. with me - and dispose of them in the cig. packet, which will then be put in my bin at home.

[Burma Bill]

15 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

I wonder if they'll make an exception for the chainsmoking Chinese tourists... 

I personally hope they prosecute chain smoking farangs in farang bars who pollute the atmosphere for us non-smoking farangs. They are in Thailand and covered by their laws.

[Mad mick]

i can see another backflip coming stand by , how are coup muppets lawmakers going to enforce this law ? or is it just for farangs and chinese tourist ! crikey cops will love this idea tea money reinstated  

Edited November 7, 2018 by Mad mick

[sanemax]

36 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

I shall do no such thing. I'll flout the new laws as much as I can get away with an effort to irritate people such as yourself. You must stand up to bullies wherever you find them.

 

If you "deliberately irritate" people , people who would like to avoid you , that makes you the bully 

[CanterbrigianBangkoker]

17 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

Your attitudes got you where you deserve to be.

 

Relegated.

 

Enjoy it, Sunshine....ha ha ha ha ha ha.

 

 

I'm not being impeded from smoking the occasional fag where I actually enjoy it most - with mates in an outdoor setting that caters for it - or - at home. As I said, I'll flout the new law as much as possible as it's a load of BS.

 

The day is coming, I am sure when I and millions more will have our existence encroached upon to the extent that we can't drink or smoke (at all), eat what we like or think what we like. The freedom of speech bit is already long gone. These kinds of actions are supported and even advocated for by the PC brigade - like yourself. Shame on you all.  

 

Edited November 7, 2018 by CanterbrigianBangkoker

[DLock]

1 minute ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

 

I'm not being impeded from smoking the occasional fag where I actually enjoy it - with mates in an outdoor setting that is geared up for it - or - at home. As I said, I'll flout the new law as much as possible as it's a load of BS.

 

The day is coming, I am sure when I and millions more will have our existence encroached upon to the extent that we can't drink, smoke, eat what we like or think what we like. The freedom of speech bit is already long gone. These kinds of actions are supported and even advocated for by the PC brigade - like yourself. Shame on you.  

 

 

You're welcome.

[stanleycoin]

6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

I have to admit that I'm not as fastidious in this respect as I'm lucky to live next to a very quiet, 'locals' beach - and my dogs nearly always shit away from the beach area.

 

I do however, always have a plastic bag in my pocket, so on the rare occasions they shit somewhere that could possibly cause annoyance, I clean it up and take it home for disposal.

Very commendable. 

Good job 

[CanterbrigianBangkoker]

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If you "deliberately irritate" people , people who would like to avoid you , that makes you the bully 

 

You misunderstand - those who criticise the smoker aren't willing to avoid them or live and let live, that's the whole point here. I am happy to avoid others and take my occasional ciggy out of doors (as is already the case all around the developed word) and thus not impose on an indoor environment. That's fine by me. The loonytune I'm referencing by 'seeking to irritate' is the one who insists in his/her own posts that anyone who smokes must be 'kept as far away from him/her as possible' - in all settings, indoor and out. Precious much? It's simply laughable.

 

I've made my point. This is becoming an uphill struggle with certain people.

Edited November 7, 2018 by CanterbrigianBangkoker

[grumpy 4680]

 

20 hours ago, HappyAndRich said:

That a very good step to promote public health and to get rid of all the bad smelling spews of all smokers.
If you want to smoke, get away from people and show some dignity and respect for other that don´t want your tobacco smoke in their lungs.

 

Same like a factory can´t dump their shit anywhere, due to that it´s bad for nature. You smokers can´t dump your dangerous smoke into other peoples lives and surroundings.

Thank You!

     Those that have given up smoking, usually become the biggest hypocritical bigots that stir up the anti smoking brigade, Iv'e given up for the umteenth time, yet I still believe smokers have a right to smoke any where outside, dignity and respect works both ways, so stop whinging.

[sawadee1947]

If this is not a law for fool's Day then it's really an amazing big step into right direction. 

However what about law enforcement? Will there be special smoke agents sneeking and sniffing around us? 

[sanemax]

9 minutes ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

You misunderstand - those who criticise the smoker aren't willing to avoid them or live and let live, that's the whole point here. I am happy to avoid others and take my occasional ciggy out of doors (as is already the case all around the developed word) and thus not impose on an indoor environment.

You previously stated that you "deliberately irritate" people by smoking , I have seen this quite often , smokers frequently wait until someone gets their food and then spark up , just to irritate them .

  So, smokers who are standing one step outside a restaurant with all the smoke blowing in , shall I take my food and go and sit across the road to avoid the smoke ?

[hobz]

10 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

 

     Those that have given up smoking, usually become the biggest hypocritical bigots that stir up the anti smoking brigade, Iv'e given up for the umteenth time, yet I still believe smokers have a right to smoke any where outside, dignity and respect works both ways, so stop whinging.

It just takes one smoker to light up in an outdoors restaurant to ruin the meal for everyone.

That being said I think it's up to each establishment to enforce their own smoking rules.

As for completely public spaces like a street or a park I think smoking could be allowed if smokers just showed a little respect and walked away a few meters from people... Most do.. almost all smokers show respect for others.. but not all ofcourse..always a few bad apples...

[hobz]

I have one of those spray bottles that spray out a fine mist. I usually load it up with thousands of chemicals and walk around spraying the mist in the vicinity of people.. they always get upset and look scared.. I don't get it.. just a couple thousand chemicals mixed with air. Nothing harmful. 

[mommysboy]

4 hours ago, darhut said:

Maybe Sir Richard Dolls answer may be quite different now (if he were still alive) that statistics show that if you are a non smoker and live with a smoker you are 30% more likely of developing lung cancer. Not so minimal after all.

Not cancer no, but certainly other serious problems.  Nevertheless that's pretty hardcore and far removed from the odd whiff out on the street.

[CanterbrigianBangkoker]

22 minutes ago, sanemax said:

You previously stated that you "deliberately irritate" people by smoking , I have seen this quite often , smokers frequently wait until someone gets their food and then spark up , just to irritate them .

  So, smokers who are standing one step outside a restaurant with all the smoke blowing in , shall I take my food and go and sit across the road to avoid the smoke ?

 

OK firstly - it sounds like you're appropriating behaviour to me that I don't engage in, which is a little out of order, IMO. What I said is I would 'flout the new law' and would take pleasure in the fact that by doing so it would irritate certain jobsworths on this forum who want to see a personal liberty of many removed altogether. It (the newly proposed law) is a draconian and unnecessary measure, furthermore it's an imposition on people who are not doing anything illegal to begin with. 

 

The issue I and many others seem to have is with OTT restrictions on smoking outside, especially when in an urban setting. 

 

'I am happy to avoid others and take my occasional ciggy out of doors (as is already the case all around the developed word) and thus not impose on an indoor environment.'

 

An outdoor area of a cafe on the street in ANY town or city is already subject to far more automotive pollution than cigarette smoke - which is a bigger risk to anyone's health than a few puffs of tobacco smoke that dissipates in the wind within a couple of seconds. Therefore the only argument to be made is the smell - that is why I try to be considerate around others - especially when eating. I think it should be up to each premises to decide their own rules on this topic - many have an outdoor smoking area that is distanced from the non-smoking outdoor area. That works fine. If a place doesn't allow smoking even outdoors then it would probably not attract a clientele that smoke in the first place, anyway. Having some balance to this issue is key, otherwise just ban the whole concept of 'smoking anything' and be done with it. 

 

I wonder what pass-time will take the next hit though? Probably one of the other unhealthy ones that you and others do approve of /indulge in ????. I wonder what the reaction will be then?

 

Edited November 7, 2018 by CanterbrigianBangkoker

[mommysboy]

2 hours ago, DLock said:

...I'm pretty sure I'm not going to die from second hand smoke, or probably even exhaust fumes...and these are the usual trollish rubbish thrown out by both sides to redirect futile arguments.

 

For me, it's pretty simple. Keeping smokers as far as way from me is a good thing. I just find it repulsive.

Millions are dying worldwide from air pollution, so don't be so sure of that. Second hand smoking- you're probably right unless heavily exposed.