rooster59 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Chularajamontri rules measles vaccine not prohibited by Islam By The Nation The Chularajamontri, or Thailand's Islamic spiritual leader, has unofficially ruled that Muslims can receive measles vaccine, a spiritual leader in Yala said on Saturday. Ahmad Abdull Hazima, an Islamic leader in Yala, said the Chularajamontri and 39 provincial Islamic committees have made unofficial rulings that vaccines are not prohibited by Islam. The rulings were sought after an ongoing outbreak of measles in four southern border provinces have seen thousands overcome by the illness and 18 people have died. In Yala alone, 14 people died from the disease. Ahmad said the Islamic leaders said that although vaccines have not been formally approved as being "haral" or allowed by the religion, they were not formally prohibited either. The Islamic leaders considered that vaccines were necessary to keep Muslims healthy so that they could continue practising their religious activities. As a result, the spiritual leaders saw that the use of vaccines would not violate Islam. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30358755 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Somehow I can't shake off the idea that publishing this kind of stuff is endorsing religious leaders' authority to rule over things, which I find disturbing, especially as public health is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, manarak said: Somehow I can't shake off the idea that publishing this kind of stuff is endorsing religious leaders' authority to rule over things, which I find disturbing, especially as public health is concerned. You are entirely right, in my opinion. However, you also need to consider how these "spiritual leaders" derive their authority. If it is because they have followers, then they are a de facto political leader but they will be referred to as a "spiritual leader" because they don't hold a political office but a religious one. As a political leader, they can give "advice" to their followers on any issue at all. We, as Westerners, might find irrational, unscientific, uneducated and medieval but that is the nature of their society. However, if the populace is being compelled against its will to follow the rulings of its spiritual dictators, either being forced to be vaccinated against their wishes or prevented from receiving vaccines they would like to have, then this is a form of evil suppression. One last thought to leave you with :- Prince Harry: 'With testing, we can end HIV' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, rooster59 said: The Islamic leaders considered that vaccines were necessary to keep Muslims healthy so that they could continue practising their religious activities. As a result, the spiritual leaders saw that the use of vaccines would not violate Islam. the logic of a six-year-old; doesn't come close to addressing why the dead and dying refused treatments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Chularajamontri rules measles vaccine not prohibited by Islam Don't suppose it's worth asking him about female genital mutilation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Briggsy said: If it is because they have followers, then they are a de facto political leader but they will be referred to as a "spiritual leader" because they don't hold a political office but a religious one. In the case of Thailand, that's very debatable. In Thailand the Muslim Chularajamontri is king-appointed. As such the Chularajamontri in the eyes of the local [Muslim] community holds very little or no legitimacy [as an Islamic religious leader]. Culture, Religion and Conflict in Muslim Southeast Asia: Negotiating tense puralisms, edited by Joseph A. Camilleri, Sven Schottmann; Chapter 7-From colonists to infidel, framing the enemy in Southern Thailand's Cosmic War by Virginie Andre, page 121. The Thailand Chularajamontri is considered a government official. Historical Dictionary of Thailand Second Edition By May Kyi Win, Harold E. Smith, Gayla S. Nieminen; Civil Service/Bureaucracy page 77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Kinda late for some muslims, I'd suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 In Pakistan, the measles vaccine is alleged to be a Nasrani plot to sterilise muslim girls, AND "Everybody"knows that the MMR vaccine give a child AUTISM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Srikcir said: In the case of Thailand, that's very debatable. In Thailand the Muslim Chularajamontri is king-appointed. As such the Chularajamontri in the eyes of the local [Muslim] community holds very little or no legitimacy [as an Islamic religious leader]. this is even way worse - I dispute any religious leader's authority, but it seems in this case, the religious "leader" telling to do the right thing isn't even listened to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceKadet Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Well, I also read that the use of nuclear weapons was allowed in Islam since Allah did not mention or forbid it in the HK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 what is Haral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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