12 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

Relax.

Hope you feel better after your little heart attack.

It was a stroke wasn't it ?

 

I'm the one who's (possibly ) having the heart attack. Just been to the Dr today and he reckons I have a heart murmur. Not classified as urgent though, so i have to wait a month to see the specialist. 

 

If I suddenly disappear from here you'll know they got it wrong ! 

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Only if the EU put in a hard border.  The UK won't be putting one in, and nor will Leo Varadkar. 

Varadkar has said in interviews not long ago that

Ireland is prepared to install a hard border should

the UK leave without a deal

 

 

7 minutes ago, tebee said:

It was a stroke wasn't it ?

 

I'm the one who's (possibly ) having the heart attack. Just been to the Dr today and he reckons I have a heart murmur. Not classified as urgent though, so i have to wait a month to see the specialist. 

 

If I suddenly disappear from here you'll know they got it wrong ! 

Sorry to read this.

The personal health is very important.

Good luck.

36 minutes ago, bomber said:

lets hope the guy with 33 years in the city isnt lending money out to the likes of greece,i rest my case

You should, it's heavy and leaking.

maybe this 

can help the UK

Tornos News _ European Commission_ Greek economy to grow by more than 2% in 2019-2020.html

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45 minutes ago, tebee said:

It was a stroke wasn't it ?

 

I'm the one who's (possibly ) having the heart attack. Just been to the Dr today and he reckons I have a heart murmur. Not classified as urgent though, so i have to wait a month to see the specialist. 

 

If I suddenly disappear from here you'll know they got it wrong ! 

 I understand doctors advise with a heart murmur you have to give up half your sex life.  I think at your age you could either give up the looking or the thinking.

23 minutes ago, nauseus said:

You should, it's heavy and leaking.

why me? i dont like greeks,been twice wouldnt go again,i much prefer their enemies turkey,4euro a pint is a rip off,i aint paying off their debts off,its a place for rich brexiteers with their mighty pounds????

If they had to choose, eight in 10 Irish people (81%) would cut economic ties with the UK rather than with the EU (19%).

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/brexit/irish-overwhelmingly-back-govts-backstop-pressure-sky-poll/ar-BBTk07y

 

 

5 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Only if the EU put in a hard border.  The UK won't be putting one in, and nor will Leo Varadkar. 

So much for controlling the UK's borders then.

3 hours ago, Grouse said:

All this Greek stuff is off topic

Yes. Its all Greek to you.

2 hours ago, bomber said:

why me? i dont like greeks,been twice wouldnt go again,i much prefer their enemies turkey,4euro a pint is a rip off,i aint paying off their debts off,its a place for rich brexiteers with their mighty pounds????

You are more likely to find the Brexiteer brigade hanging out in Cyprus, the other end of the Greek financial umbilical cord. Still lamenting their high interest bond losses, and sticking the blame donkey on the usual Conspiracy Theory targets.

6 hours ago, sanemax said:

Oh no, cancel Brexit then 

You'll wish you had when it kicks off.

13 hours ago, Grouse said:

EU27•5 at least I think

True in one respect, but the poster was suggesting TM should have been dealing with the 27 leaders rather than the likes of Barnier & Juncker, that unelected paranoia again.

The perverse validity is that had there been 28 leaders around the brexit table there would never be any conclusion.

15 hours ago, aright said:

Our decision was decisive, we want out asap.

I am sure that these families recognise it is better that the limited resources be spent on giving you what you want.

 

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/communities/housing/news/101691/half-all-children-private-rentals-live-poverty-according

It is always good to have a good relationship with your neighbors.

As the farmers say: “Good fences make good neighbours.”


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7 hours ago, sanemax said:

Would the IRA go back to violence again ?

Its a different generation now and the new generation may not be inclined to start a bombing campaign 

It wasn't one sided and violence is a serious reality. My friend lives in Belfast and as much as he would like to see it, he fears reunification will bring reprisals from the hard core unionists.

The U.K. will not be declaring war on Europe and we will still be members of NATO &UEFA & the Eurovision song contest

We should leave the Eurovision too. Another shambles where tactical voting against the UK is obvious.


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4 minutes ago, Loiner said:

As the farmers say: “Good fences make good neighbours.”
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And as the EU say, you cannot have different regulations on either side of an open border.

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that it is a choice between regulatory alignment or a good fence.

And as the EU say, you cannot have different regulations on either side of an open border.
Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that it is a choice between regulatory alignment or a good fence.

That’s why we had a referendum. Did we want regulatory alignment? No, we chose against that and voted to Leave the bloc. We rather like making our own regulations (and everything else that goes with them) on our side of the border.


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Project Fear has been superseded.

 

The government has drawn up secret plans that include the option of slashing taxes and tariffs to rescue the economy if there is a no-deal Brexit, reports suggest.

The plan, being overseen by cabinet secretary Sir Mark Sedwill, have been compiled as a list of possible options for ministers to help offset the economic impact of leaving the EU without a deal.

 

The proposals, named “Project After”, have been called a “Doomsday list of economic levers”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-tax-cuts-theresa-may-cabinet-plan-economy-recession-project-after-bank-of-england-a8769431.html

8 minutes ago, Loiner said:

That’s why we had a referendum. Did we want regulatory alignment? No, we chose against that and voted to Leave the bloc. We rather like making our own regulations (and everything else that goes with them) on our side of the border.


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So you and all that voted to leave chose to put your "good fence" across Ireland. Not what they are admitting to.

15 minutes ago, Loiner said:

We rather like making our own regulations (and everything else that goes with them) on our side of the border 

What’s the point of that when you don’t enforce the border? 

So you and all that voted to leave chose to put your "good fence" across Ireland. Not what they are admitting to.

300 miles of Red herring. UK says no fence necessary at that point.
Ireland still flip flopping on the issue but EU ‘demanding’ one.


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What’s the point of that when you don’t enforce the border? 

Between NI and Ireland what do you really want to enforce?


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43 minutes ago, Loiner said:

300 miles of Red herring. UK says no fence necessary at that point.
Ireland still flip flopping on the issue but EU ‘demanding’ one.


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If you are going to run seperate trading systems then you’ll need one. 

 

Dont try and pin this on the EU, the other 180 members of the WTO will demand, and entitled to, the same access you provide EU goods and services via that border. 

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

Between NI and Ireland what do you really want to enforce?

The “own regulations (and everything else that goes with them) on [your] side of the border”. Or what’s the point of having them when you don’t enforce them?

If you are going to run seperate trading systems then you’ll need one. 
 
Dont try and pin this on the EU, the other 180 members of the WTO will demand, and entitled to, the same access you provide EU goods and services via that border. 

The NI border is very definitely an EU orchestrated non-issue. Leo jumped on the bandwagon in the hope it would frustrate Brexit and not affect his vital cross border trade. May is happy to keep it going as part of the backstop which she is encouraging to be viewed as insurmountable.


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The “own regulations (and everything else that goes with them) on [your] side of the border”. Or what’s the point of having them when you don’t enforce them?

What regulations do you want to enforce?


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2 minutes ago, Loiner said:

The NI border is very definitely an EU orchestrated non-issue. Leo jumped on the bandwagon in the hope it would frustrate Brexit and not affect his vital cross border trade. May is happy to keep it going as part of the backstop which she is encouraging to be viewed as insurmountable.


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No, it’s a global trade rule issue and it is very real.

 

Similarly, if the EU, via the northern Irish border let british products in without checking, then the rest of the world will be entitled to this under WTO rules.

 

You guys actually voted for this. You wanted this. Why are you having a whinge - and blaming others - when the reality is presented to you?

9 minutes ago, Loiner said:

What regulations do you want to enforce?

I don’t know; you were the one saying you would do own regulations: “our own regulations (and everything else that goes with them) on our side of the border.” What’s the point of having your own regulations if you don’t enforce them?