Top Democrats say Trump may face impeachment, jail over hush money

[lungbing]

I'm English so I don't have the inbuilt bias you have.  My point....

Why do the Democrats not just accept they lost the election and get on with finding a viable candidate  and setting some policies in place to win the next election.

[Jonah Tenner]

10 minutes ago, lungbing said:

I'm English so I don't have the inbuilt bias you have.  My point....

Why do the Democrats not just accept they lost the election and get on with finding a viable candidate  and setting some policies in place to win the next election.

And I am Norwegian, and regard current American political antics from both sides as a cornucopia of amusement, distraction maneuvers and general obfuscation.

The world has not seen a Circus like this since the Roman Empire.

[pedro01]

35 minutes ago, lungbing said:

I'm English so I don't have the inbuilt bias you have.  My point....

Why do the Democrats not just accept they lost the election and get on with finding a viable candidate  and setting some policies in place to win the next election.

 

Neither side does that. 

 

You man recall talk of a certain birth certificate...

 

The president set a precedent...

[Srinivas]

28 minutes ago, lungbing said:

I'm English so I don't have the inbuilt bias you have.  My point....

Why do the Democrats not just accept they lost the election and get on with finding a viable candidate  and setting some policies in place to win the next election.

its not just democrats, its the entire  old guard fighting to stay out of jail republicans included. 

 

[bristolboy]

13 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

its not just democrats, its the entire  old guard fighting to stay out of jail republicans included. 

 

More imaginary investigations?

[Srinivas]

7 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

More imaginary investigations?

only if you're not paying attention or staying in your get trump bubble.

 

[riclag]

5 hours ago, Srinivas said:

This is how the Russia colusion farce morphs and winds down. 

 

 

Totally agree! Propaganda!The news with cohen is old and hasn't been corroborated,besides his truth lies in the cesspool with beggar's that plead for forgiveness !

 

Mueller and the dem's will try to impeach, based on a perpetual evolving report of highly suspicious activity that lacks evidence!

 

Between running the country ,lame duck congress and protecting his presidency from even more darker domestic hostile threats might at times seem impossible to overcome but I don't see PT giving up! 

 

The dem house , GOP senate committee and MSM machine's will be on spin cycle for 2 years!

Through the spirit of nationalism, his administrations accomplishments and new senate revelations that expose the conspiracy to unseat a  elected POTUS, will sway public opinion and ultimately the 2020 vote. Controlling Public Opinion will win the day!

 

I have faith that Making America Great Again wasn't just a Donald Trump slogan but a people's agenda, a movement that doesn't die or fall or be subjected to impeachment ,it is a awakening!    

 

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, pedro01 said:

He paid a tart to keep her mouth shut - and you expect him to declare it as "paying tart to keep mouth shut"?

I'm sure the IRS, state tax authorities and criminal investigators will be very sympathetic to that argument.

[bristolboy]

3 hours ago, Ulic said:

I am no Trump fan but this is ridiculous, payoffs/confidentiality agreements are standard in many agreements. Move along and focus on something substantial. 

But lying about them on your taxes is a big no-no.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Totally agree! Propaganda!The news with cohen is old and hasn't been corroborated,besides his truth lies in the cesspool with beggar's that plead for forgiveness !

 

Mueller and the dem's will try to impeach, based on a perpetual evolving report of highly suspicious activity that lacks evidence!

 

Between running the country ,lame duck congress and protecting his presidency from even more darker domestic hostile threats might at times seem impossible to overcome but I don't see PT giving up! 

 

The dem house , GOP senate committee and MSM machine's will be on spin cycle for 2 years!

Through the spirit of nationalism, his administrations accomplishments and new senate revelations that expose the conspiracy to unseat a  elected POTUS, will sway public opinion and ultimately the 2020 vote. Controlling Public Opinion will win the day!

 

I have faith that Making America Great Again wasn't just a Donald Trump slogan but a people's agenda, a movement that doesn't die or fall or be subjected to impeachment ,it is a awakening!    

 

Lowering taxes for billionaires and corporations, cutting back on prosecuting white collar crimes, and enabling Wall Street to resume its bad old ways is your idea of an awakening? More like succumbing to a nightmare.

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, lungbing said:

I'm English so I don't have the inbuilt bias you have.  My point....

Why do the Democrats not just accept they lost the election and get on with finding a viable candidate  and setting some policies in place to win the next election.

Because the Justice Dept is investigating Trump and his minions somehow signifies that the Democrats haven't accepted that they lost the last election? And I guess your excuse for being uninformed about the issues is that you're English. So why bother to have an opinion when you know nothing about the actual case? In fact, Democrats have staked out very clear positions on the issues such as health care which has helped them immensely. On most issues they have the edge. Pay attention.

[Scott]

Troll post and reply removed.

 

[riclag]

Mueller and the dem's will try to impeach, based on a perpetual evolving report of highly suspicious activity that lacks evidence!

 

[UncleTouchyFingers]

31 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Democrats have staked out very clear positions on the issues such as health care which has helped them immensely. On most issues they have the edge. Pay attention.

 

Yeah making me pay more money to get absolutely nothing in return, then take that money and spend it on illegal aliens to bolster their future voting pool. Real clever platform they have there. No idea how Trump became president.

[bristolboy]

5 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Yeah making me pay more money to get absolutely nothing in return, then take that money and spend it on illegal aliens to bolster their future voting pool. Real clever platform they have there. No idea how Trump became president.

Polls consistently show that even Republicans think the wealthy pay too little in taxes. And overwhelmingly they oppose Trump's immigration policies. And as for healthcare...the Democrats walloped the Republicans on that in 2018. And notice how the Republicans ran away from their tax giveaway bill in the 2018 elections. And how they lied about protecting people with pre-existing conditions.

[direction BANGKOK]

11 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

It's been explained hundreds of times here why it wasn't a campaign finance violation.

 

Stormy is one of many women that have been paid off. Most of them before the campaign. Trump can show a clear pattern of paying off tarts and so it's a regular expenditure to him. Hence, it's just his normal pattern of spending and not something done especially for the campaign.

 

He can also argue the case that he did it to protect his family.

 

I'm amazed this is even a topic of conversation any more. 

SO, best case scenario is he makes these payments all the time lol. I am sorry but that is just too funny. 

 

You can be amazed all you want. Maybe you are only offering your opinion on the payoffs topic, which that would be a fair enough opinion. These payoffs are the least of his worries at this point though. 

[wabothai]

16 hours ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

Glad you understand that this is just a political stunt pushed by Dems & written just for you and this guy:

 

 

And what Truth would that be? 

 

[riclag]

13 minutes ago, direction BANGKOK said:

SO, best case scenario is he makes these payments all the time lol. I am sorry but that is just too funny. 

 

You can be amazed all you want. Maybe you are only offering your opinion on the payoffs topic, which that would be a fair enough opinion. These payoffs are the least of his worries at this point though. 

Please expand on that! If your talking about fighting for his Presidency  during the investigations or the current old news that came out that is not corroborated 

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, wabothai said:

 

Conspiracy video ! No evidence,Nice try

[wabothai]

Just now, riclag said:

Conspiracy video ! No evidence,Nice try

Is that all you have to say? Did you go through the whole video? 

No you didn't. I posted the video 5 minutes ago. the video is 45 minutes.

Nice try.

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, wabothai said:

Is that all you have to say? Did you go through the whole video? 

No you didn't. I posted the video 5 minutes ago. the video is 45 minutes.

Nice try.

I didn't have to I went into ZEMbla YT "about" page! That's about it

[wabothai]

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

I didn't have to I went into ZEMbla YT "about" page! That's about it

In denial as usual.

Zembla is a well established and renowned  journalistic research institute in the Netherlands.

[wabothai]

16 minutes ago, riclag said:

I didn't have to I went into ZEMbla YT "about" page! That's about it

More for you:

 

[riclag]

1 minute ago, wabothai said:

In denial as usual.

Zembla is a well established and renowned  journalistic research institute in the Netherlands.

"opinion-forming journalism" after translation

Youtube about page

[welovesundaysatspace]

49 minutes ago, riclag said:

Conspiracy video ! No evidence,Nice try

“Zembla is a Dutch television documentary programme produced by BNNVARA (previously VARA, and until 2010, also NPS). The documentaries are based on in-depth research. The program often deals with controversial topics. 

A documentary in 2001 about fraud in the Dutch construction sector led to parliamentary inquiries. (...)”

 

Nice try. 

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.  

[bristolboy]

GOP leader who gloated about Benghazi probe wants Dems to refrain from investigating Trump

Kevin McCarthy is singing a very different tune about congressional investigations than he did during the Obama years...

McCarthy’s misleading comments are an early sign of how he plans to lead his conference through the coming onslaught of Democratic investigations. The man who once wanted to endlessly investigate Hillary Clinton doesn’t feel the same when it’s his own party in the White House.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/10/18134674/kevin-mccarthy-house-trump-investigations

[stevenl]

7 hours ago, riclag said:

Please expand on that! If your talking about fighting for his Presidency  during the investigations or the current old news that came out that is not corroborated 

Just read the post this reply was made to.

[Srinivas]

So in summary

Trump paid his own hush money for consensual sex. Consensual.

 

 

Congress paid with public funds, $17 million of hush money for non consensual sexual harrasment or worse in 268 settlements.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-congress-sexual-harassment-hush-money-20171128-story.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/11/27/sexual-harassment-fund-exposes-congress-editorials-debates/898008001/

For those that claim this is to influence election I say it is same for congress critters and even worse they used public funds and are hiding the list.

 

The fund was set up by the Congressional Accountability Act, the 1995 law that created the Office of Compliance.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html

 

"may" face impeachment, hedging? 

 

 

 

[Berkshire]

On 12/10/2018 at 1:40 PM, Thaidream said:

A Republican team will be assembled and visit Trump and tell him bluntly -resign or be the first President in American history to be impeached and convicted and removed from office. At the same time Mike Pence- the Vice President will have been informed to pardon Trump of all crimes as he will be President. Should Trump try and resist- Pence will tell him- that he has already got the votes to  remove him under the 25th Amendment but there will be no pardon for Trump if he refuses to resign.

 

Trump-cornered for the first time in his life- will resign the Presidency and  head back to New York City and his penthouse and  America and the World will breathe again.

 

Truth is on the march and nothing can stop it!!

 

Agree that Trump's days are numbered.  Trump has a lot more to lose if he continues his Presidency.  If he resigns and accepts a pardon from (in theory) President Pence, he will be able to move on with his life after the long con.

 

But if he decides to continue on with the charade and loses the 2020 election, he can't reasonably expect a pardon from a Democratic President.  I'm sure Mueller has a lot more on Trump, but even with what's already out there, Trump is a felon.  It's either pay now or pay later.  Personally, I'd prefer that Trump continue on and is immediately indicted after his Presidency ends in 2020.  That would be incredibly fitting and show the rest of the world that the American justice system actually works.