Geordieabroad Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Firstly let me say i really feel for you guys relying on monthly income for extension renewals since the embassies stopped verifying these, i hope it works out for everyone, you don't need hassle like that when you're retired. My question is, does anyone know or has anyone heard anything about Thai authorities insisting on compulsory health insurance when renewing retirement extensions in the future? Obviously i read about the requirements for O - A visas, but to me it just seems a natural progression that the Thais would then start milking the retirees and those on marriage extensions for all they can get. Thanks in advance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 No requirement for health insurance being required for extension has been mentioned anywhere. Even the requirement for having if for a OA visa has not been approved yet. It was only proposed. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BertM Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Answer... NOT required... ???? No one knows the future... Edited January 6, 2019 by BertM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSVANPELT Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) Six government branches and three insurance branches will meet later this month to see if they can make it work, until then its just conversation Edited January 6, 2019 by JESSVANPELT typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppin Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Hi Ubon Joe. Let me first of all thank you for your very informative information. On the matter of mandatory health insurance I am very unclear. Is an extension to a retirement extension or marriage extension different to an OA visa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Poppin said: Is an extension to a retirement extension or marriage extension different to an OA visa A OA visa can only be applied for at a embassy or official consulate in your home country if you are 50 or over. Extension of stay are applied for at immigration here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimmyyy Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 Wish they would just work out a cost and let us married guys get on the 30 baht plan, of course it would cost much more and should include more. Make it a government plan. This would increase funding for public hospitals. Wait, i forgot its Thailand sorry for wasting your time. 555555 4 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elviajero Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Geordieabroad said: My question is, does anyone know or has anyone heard anything about Thai authorities insisting on compulsory health insurance when renewing retirement extensions in the future? Just rumours. IMO it’s not going to happen. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Weird Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 1 hour ago, jimmyyy said: Wish they would just work out a cost and let us married guys get on the 30 baht plan, of course it would cost much more and should include more. Make it a government plan. This would increase funding for public hospitals. Wait, i forgot its Thailand sorry for wasting your time. 555555 Why just you "married guys", do you think that you deserve it more than everyone else? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kannot Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Just Weird said: Why just you "married guys", do you think that you deserve it more than everyone else? supporting a thai wife/national? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Just Weird Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, kannot said: supporting a thai wife/national? What's "married" got to do with it, anyone can do that, can't they? I support my three Thai children but I'm no longer married. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, elviajero said: Just rumours. IMO it’s not going to happen. Dream on. A lot of countries require this and Thailand should (and will) too. It’s only a matter of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elviajero Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, dcnx said: Dream on. A lot of countries require this and Thailand should (and will) too. It’s only a matter of time. Why "should" they? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, dcnx said: Dream on. A lot of countries require this and Thailand should (and will) too. It’s only a matter of time. The majority of nations in the world that offer formal retirement visas (most are in Latin America) actually do not require health insurance cover. 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 18 hours ago, elviajero said: Just rumours. IMO it’s not going to happen. Chickens...1.2.3.4? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 19 hours ago, jimmyyy said: Wish they would just work out a cost and let us married guys get on the 30 baht plan, of course it would cost much more and should include more. Make it a government plan. This would increase funding for public hospitals. Wait, i forgot its Thailand sorry for wasting your time. 555555 Logical 'farang' thinking not allowed in the Kingdom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cheshiremusicman Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2019 Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue at the Immigration desks if they had to check each passengers 'Health Insurance document' written in the language of the passenger? Also, do they have any idea (or care) about old people who CANNOT get health insurance either due to pre-existing conditions or the extremely high costs of obtaining it. I for one would be more than willing to contribute to the Thai National health service on a monthly or yearly basis. I live in Hua-Hin and have had excellent service from the local hospitals here, at a fraction of the cost of the 'Farang' hospitals. Example:- A few years ago I had a brain bleed and I was quoted 1 million B for the operation and 1 million B for aftercare which I could not afford and eventually paid a grand total of 46,000B after being operated on at the local hospital with whom I was registered. I was transferred from the local Military Hospital to the HH General hospital on the advice of my doctor at the Military Hospital and arrived at about 1400 and was operated on at 2000 the same day. The Neurosurgeon that operated on me came every day including weekends to see how I was getting on, so I for one have only praise for the Thai National Health services. May I close by wishing all our members all the best for the coming year, especially your good health. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Geordieabroad said: Thais would then start milking the retirees and those on marriage extensions for all they can get. As opposed to irresponsible retirees, et al who refuse to pay for insurance and expect to milk the hospitals for all they can get when treatment is required, without the need to pay? Thailand isn't quite the nanny state to which you're accustomed. Edited January 7, 2019 by Suradit69 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Geordieabroad Posted January 7, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Suradit69 said: As opposed to irresponsible retirees who refuse to pay for insurance and expect hospitals to treat them for free? Thailand isn't quite the nanny state to which you're accustomed. No, as opposed to responsible retirees who have more than enough money in Thailand to take care of ANY medical treatment necessary and therefore view health insurance as a waste of money. Find out a person's circumstances before you refer to them as a freeloader 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted January 7, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, lvr181 said: Logical 'farang' thinking not allowed in the Kingdom. Fortunately logical farang thinking ... not to be confused with the typical me me me farang thinking ... is seldom in evidence in Thailand and almost nonexistent here at TV. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Geordieabroad said: No, as opposed to responsible retirees who have more than enough money in Thailand to take care of ANY medical treatment necessary and therefore view health insurance as a waste of money. Find out a person's circumstances before you refer to them as a freeloader Oh please spare me the self indulgent "everything is about me" whine. You weren't speaking of some individual person or some individual's circumstances. You claimed all retires and farang married to Thais would be milked for all they could get and, given all the brouhaha from all those unable to manage Baht 65,000 a month or to put Baht 800,000 in a bank, there are a lot of retirees here who can barely make it from month to month let alone take on major medical expenses. You're clearly trying to play the Great White Hope versus "the Thais" who are out to fleece the poor (literally) farang. 23 hours ago, Geordieabroad said: that the Thais would then start milking the retirees and those on marriage extensions for all they can get. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordieabroad Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Suradit69 said: Oh please spare me the self indulgent "everything is about me" whine. You weren't speaking of some individual person or some individual's circumstances. You claimed all retires and farang married to Thais would be milked for all they could get and, given all the brouhaha from all those unable to manage Baht 65,000 a month or to put Baht 800,000 in a bank, there are a lot of retirees here who can barely make it from month to month let alone take on major medical expenses. You're clearly trying to play the Great White Hope versus "the Thais" who are out to fleece the poor (literally) farang. Not worthy of a reply 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davhend25 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 21 hours ago, ubonjoe said: A OA visa can only be applied for at a embassy or official consulate in your home country if you are 50 or over. Extension of stay are applied for at immigration here. The visa I applied for and received in my home country was/is a "Non-Immigrant O" visa. It was good for 90 days, then had to be extended based on retirement. What is the difference between this visa and a "Non-Immigrant OA" visa?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICELANDMAN Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue at the Immigration desks if they had to check each passengers 'Health Insurance document' written in the language of the passenger? Also, do they have any idea (or care) about old people who CANNOT get health insurance either due to pre-existing conditions or the extremely high costs of obtaining it. I for one would be more than willing to contribute to the Thai National health service on a monthly or yearly basis. I live in Hua-Hin and have had excellent service from the local hospitals here, at a fraction of the cost of the 'Farang' hospitals. Example:- A few years ago I had a brain bleed and I was quoted 1 million B for the operation and 1 million B for aftercare which I could not afford and eventually paid a grand total of 46,000B after being operated on at the local hospital with whom I was registered. I was transferred from the local Military Hospital to the HH General hospital on the advice of my doctor at the Military Hospital and arrived at about 1400 and was operated on at 2000 the same day. The Neurosurgeon that operated on me came every day including weekends to see how I was getting on, so I for one have only praise for the Thai National Health services. May I close by wishing all our members all the best for the coming year, especially your good health. Perfectly agree with you, if the government of Thailand were smart, it would require all foreigners to pay health insurance for the state as for its citizens, private hospitals are sharks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, davhend25 said: What is the difference between this visa and a "Non-Immigrant OA" visa?? A OA visa allows unlimited one year entries for a year from the date of issue. By getting a new one year entry just before it expires you can get almost 2 years of total stay from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 21 hours ago, jimmyyy said: Wish they would just work out a cost and let us married guys get on the 30 baht plan, of course it would cost much more and should include more. Make it a government plan. This would increase funding for public hospitals. Wait, i forgot its Thailand sorry for wasting your time. 555555 Hopefully that might include Thai PR holders. Do any other PR holders have any new information this is point, please share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davhend25 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: A OA visa allows unlimited one year entries for a year from the date of issue. By getting a new one year entry just before it expires you can get almost 2 years of total stay from it. Thanks, ubonjoe...I couldn't seem to find an answer for this anywhere. Seemed like a simple enough question, but multiple "Google" searches just turned up more confusing answers. Thanks! DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 19 hours ago, dcnx said: Dream on. A lot of countries require this and Thailand should (and will) too. It’s only a matter of time. I can't see that happening. Most retirees here are visitors for 12 months. And 12 months is just temporary or short term. A travel insurance that can cover a whole year would make better sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 22 hours ago, jimmyyy said: Wish they would just work out a cost and let us married guys get on the 30 baht plan, of course it would cost much more and should include more. Make it a government plan. This would increase funding for public hospitals. Wait, i forgot its Thailand sorry for wasting your time. 555555 since thailand has signed the compact of immigration in marakesh 11.12.18 every expat should make his claim to the 30 baht scheme. wbr roobaa01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farangx Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, roobaa01 said: since thailand has signed the compact of immigration in marakesh 11.12.18 every expat should make his claim to the 30 baht scheme. wbr roobaa01 Oh, please don't do that. If TI stop extending an extension which can be done without reason, there is no recourse .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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