baboon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, sanemax said: The abuse of Thais and Thailand is growing in this thread, gaining momentum . Quite unpleasant to wake up on Monday morning and reading all the critical comments . Think that I'll get myself a coffee and play candy crush on facebook and not read anymore comments in this thread , I wouldnt be surprised if within a few pages , someone will be suggesting that Thais should suffer the same fate as the Jews . Makes for depressing reading I have cut down significantly on my use of Thaivisa and other such media of late and dammit, I feel better for it. You might want to give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, briansbiology said: lol at people asking if they teach world history in thai school. they completely ignore world war 2 as let's not forget which side they were really on. the japanese were given free reign to do as they please. The Japanese had money. They were closely followed by GI Joe who also had money. Next comes the Xi dynasty because they have money. Ignorance is bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, sanemax said: The abuse of Thais and Thailand is growing in this thread, gaining momentum . Quite unpleasant to wake up on Monday morning and reading all the critical comments . Think that I'll get myself a coffee and play candy crush on facebook and not read anymore comments in this thread , I wouldnt be surprised if within a few pages , someone will be suggesting that Thais should suffer the same fate as the Jews . Makes for depressing reading You are getting excited for what reason? Did i say anything wrong? No i stated a correct fact, if you dont like the truth, you go and play childish games like candy crush, that is about as sad as Thais knowing nothing about the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, baboon said: I'm wondering at this point whether or not you and I are married to the same woman... Timeshare is popular here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Timeshare is popular here... Yes, but in the case of Mrs baboon, it would be like timeshare in a gulag... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspill Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 The Swastika has been a Hindu & Buddhist symbol used all over Asia for over a millennium before a bunch of German dudes rotated it slightly for a few decades. Israel is way too sensitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Unfortunately, many choices made here are based on ignorance. The only education they seem to want to follow, is what is shown in the the weekly 'soap operas' on television. I am not too sure much history, geography, world affairs etc. are taught in schools here. I couldn't help wondering if the average Thai would know where Germany is or what it did in WWII that upset people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, masuk said: I couldn't help wondering if the average Thai would know where Germany is or what it did in WWII that upset people. Germany is part of that mystical magical 'farangland' That's sad I know, but horribly true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: Unfortunately, many choices made here are based on ignorance. The only education they seem to want to follow, is what is shown in the the weekly 'soap operas' on television. I am not too sure much history, geography, world affairs etc. are taught in schools here. I can answer that, basically none, it's not on the central curriculum, which must be followed by all schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, jspill said: The Swastika has been a Hindu & Buddhist symbol used all over Asia for over a millennium before a bunch of German dudes rotated it slightly for a few decades. Israel is way too sensitive When all else fails throw in the "too sensitive" dog whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy151 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, baboon said: I have cut down significantly on my use of Thaivisa and other such media of late and dammit, I feel better for it. You might want to give it a try. Good advice. I'm going to cut down too, but I still have some complaining to do. Not finished yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, baboon said: I have cut down significantly on my use of Thaivisa and other such media of late and dammit, I feel better for it. You might want to give it a try. Point taken, keep in mind that: - News items (except for items direct from reuters / AFP etc., both biased) are very poorly written. - The rest of the content on Thaivisa (perhaps 90+% of all content) is constructed / posted by TV members. And the negative brigade have been out in full force recently, much more than I have ever seen before. A story appears and it's instantly followed by several / dozens of negative posts with no balance at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, jspill said: The Swastika has been a Hindu & Buddhist symbol used all over Asia for over a millennium before a bunch of German dudes rotated it slightly for a few decades. Israel is way too sensitive No, the Nazi swastika is unique the the Nazis , very different to all the ancient swastikas and both have very different meanings . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 It would appear that the BNK48 management are far better behaved and educated in responding to the problem than a whole raft of contributors on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, colinneil said: You are getting excited for what reason? Did i say anything wrong? No i stated a correct fact, if you dont like the truth, you go and play childish games like candy crush, that is about as sad as Thais knowing nothing about the rest of the world. I'm going out to buy some anti depressants , I woke up in a good mood , read thai visa and suddenly the Worlds a miserable place again , full of people moaning and complaining . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Chippy151 said: Lots of people saying we need to educate the kids about the world they live in. Have a chat with a Thai teacher and listen to what they know about the outside world. Educate the teachers first. If Thai teachers were even remotely interested in anything outside Thailand, they would probably learn English and attempt to speak it sometimes. They might be able to communicate with someone who had the misfortune of not being born Thai. Then they could pass on a little knowledge on to the kids. My opinion, FWIW is the lack of critical thinking - by teachers as well. I see it as a tool that has been used here for centuries by the those at the top of the system, to keep the peasants down. Until that changes and the general public can start to think for themselves, sadly not much will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I was sharing some wine yesterday with a 40 year old Thai female with a college education. She lives here in the USA. We got talking about the Vietnam war when she saw some pictures of me in Vietnam. She had next to no knowledge of the Vietnam War or the Cambodia situation with the Khmer Rouge and the slaughter there. How would any one expect people to know about WWII now 74 years in the past when they don't know about something 50 years ago in their own neck of the woods. What is reality is that few care about history unless they were directly involved so you can figure that every 70 or 80 years there are mostly people that don't know anything past their own lifetime. That's the way it is. Don't blame the Thais, it's the same everywhere. Ever seen TV people go around and ask American college age people what is the significance of the 4th of July? Half of them don't get the answer right. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: I'm going out to buy some anti depressants , I woke up in a good mood , read thai visa and suddenly the Worlds a miserable place again , full of people moaning and complaining . Why are you confusing my correct comments, with moaning/complaining? I was not moaning, just stating facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Inflammatory post reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Every year someone or some place in Thailand pulls this crap . every year it creates a crap storm all over social media every year someone or some place apologises and guess what? the following year, someone or some place does it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Typical example, helping a school out because of classes without a teacher years ago, I tried a geography lesson. A compass point was not known before, Singapore was NORTH of Thailand, The Himalaya's were animals. It is not just history but world knowledge is non starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, scorecard said: Point taken, keep in mind that: - News items (except for items direct from reuters / AFP etc., both biased) are very poorly written. - The rest of the content on Thaivisa (perhaps 90+% of all content) is constructed / posted by TV members. And the negative brigade have been out in full force recently, much more than I have ever seen before. A story appears and it's instantly followed by several / dozens of negative posts with no balance at all. People just aren't listening to one another anymore. They take one side of an issue and bellow slogans and insults at the other. It is wearing and saps the spirit. Alas, Thaivisa is by no means the only offender. It is everywhere, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Lingba said: The country of Thailand should apologize for not properly educating their children world history but at the same time there a millions of Brits who are in holocaust denial, probably wasn't mentioned on 'Love island' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, baboon said: People just aren't listening to one another anymore. They take one side of an issue and bellow slogans and insults at the other. It is wearing and saps the spirit. Alas, Thaivisa is by no means the only offender. It is everywhere, now. Agree, and just one scenario, I've asked my uni students many times (many other professors asked the same questions: - Who has read a newspaper, hard copy of on-line in the last 7 days? None. - How many of your parents have read a newspaper, hard copy of on-line in the last 7 days? None. - Do you or your parents, around 9.00 pm, watch thai news on TV? Non e/ didn't know there was tV news programs. - Do you get news feeds on facebook / twitter etc? Do you read the? Delete. - About 6 months back we had 2 visiting professors from Australia with us for 1 month. This same subject came up. Questions to Australian uni age kids the same as above. Responses the same as above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 An off topic post has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Father Fintan Stack said: My Singaporean friends know the Thais aided the Japanese is shipping PoWs from Singapore to work on the Death Railway including their ancestors. Another bit of their grubby history that isn't taught in their history books but people don't forget that easily. The problem is the parts the Thais are forced to remember about their own history are fabrications and myths and aren't actually based on any facts whatsoever. The World has moved on from 1945 , that is history now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy151 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, scorecard said: Agree, and just one scenario, I've asked my uni students many times (many other professors asked the same questions: - Who has read a newspaper, hard copy of on-line in the last 7 days? None. - How many of your parents have read a newspaper, hard copy of on-line in the last 7 days? None. - Do you or your parents, around 9.00 pm, watch thai news on TV? Non e/ didn't know there was tV news programs. - Do you get news feeds on facebook / twitter etc? Do you read the? Delete. - About 6 months back we had 2 visiting professors from Australia with us for 1 month. This same subject came up. Questions to Australian uni age kids the same as above. Responses the same as above. Sorry but i find it difficult to believe that Australian university students or their parents don't read the news in any form. I do believe it about Thais though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 It's just a PR stunt. Their pictures are all over in media but only a very few understand what it's really about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonrawdcnx Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I think the Thais have currently more pressing problems then some singer in a swastika T-Shirt on a rehearsal stage. If they are serious about fighting fascism - then where is the German and Israel’s Ambassadors outrage about the rise of fascist elements in this country intimidating, imprisoning and murdering critics and political opponents ? Oh yes that would be bad for business - never mind that the fascists elements in good old Nazi fashion intimidate, assault and murder right in front of their eyes in this country - that’s not our business - don’t let political prisoners, some bodies in a river or assaults and a burning car spoil a nice cocktail party - where is the outrage? This is how Hitler started out and nobody but a few dared to speak out - but maybe they can’t remember ! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alation Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Well for me apology accepted as in this case her ignorance pretty much excuses her, having said that I wonder what she liked about the shirt to ware it and also why no one in rehearsal picked up on it as surely there would have been someone around that would have known what it represents. I am just thinking out loud on a phone that has the volume turned down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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