You got 3 rai farmland in Isan, what would you do with it? Time perspective is 20 eyars +. 

 

We will make solar power, a small bungalow, bore hole for water, and then what to do with it? We will have family to take care of the land, so I was thinking hard wood, and some useful fruit trees. Any thoughts what goes good together? 

 

The land have been used for potatos lately, and in the area they just started planting and producing Tamurin as well. From before it is a typical chilli, beans, sugar, and corn. 

Firstly, welcome to the forum Tagged. 

You have asked probably the hardest question for any of us to answer. Not because we couldn't offer any suggestions, but because the chances of success are slim without a lot of basic questions you need answered.

What is your ultimate objective?

Who exactly is going to tend the land? Farming in Isaan is hard hot work, 20 years is a long time. 

It appears there is no water or power, nor a house. Expensive at any price if not used. 

The list goes on and on.

My advise would be to make sure you understand Thai families and their culture first. 

2 hours ago, IsaanAussie said:

 

My advise would be to make sure you understand Thai families and their culture first. 

May need more than 20 years for that.  ????

 

I recommend first growing a legume green manure crop during the rainy season. If you do this before you invest a lot of time and money, it will get you some experience with the land and the people and the resources available, and start to build soil fertility. 

 

http://designerecosystems.com/2014/09/21/fertilizer-for-free-how-to-make-the-most-from-biological-nitrogen-fixation-by-wojciech-majda-is-available/

would be nice to know prices of the pipes and hard wood saplings

 

 

Edited January 29, 20197 yr by Hummin

The basic answer if you want is look at the Kings sufficiency plan it will give you a good layout

 

If you are going to live on the land then plan to grow crops and livestock hat will make you self sufficient with a little extra to trade or sell

 

Edited January 30, 20197 yr by kingstonkid

We will plant hardwood first of all, and then the family can plant what goes good together with the hard wood. The land investment was far underpriced, and the rest of the family have connecting land, and nearby so they are farmers with green hands. They would know what they want, but as every other place I have been to, is when  neighbour start with something new the rest of the village do the same, so i said no Tamurin. 

 

bore hole with quality pipes, slurry, and pump 50 000,- ?

Wather tanks 5m3 10 000,-?

Bungalow 40 000?

 

Saplings? 

 

 

 

 

Grow Mangos 

Everyone loves Mangos. 

We have a plot, roughly that size behind our shops. We have planted a variety of different coconuts that my wife gets from the research center. Plus all the different fruits that we like to eat, just a couple of each. Pineapples, chilli, sweet leaf, okra... It's just to keep the land utilized and our tummies full..

Grow for yourself and family. Dont try to grow to sell it sort of costs too much as in looking after prooerly. Lemon trees. Mangoes. Other fruits. Mulberrys for sure. Bannanas. Beens. Okra. Make your own fertilizer and sprays to keep the insects down. If it needs spraying with insecticude dont grow it. 

Look on youtube fir ideas.

 

Depending if you are Thai or farang, don't forget a foreigner can not work especially as farmer

13 minutes ago, passiflora said:

Depending if you are Thai or farang, don't forget a foreigner can not work especially as farmer

 

Op will have no issues as his extended family will be looking after it.

However, as a foreigner there are no issues growing fruit and veggies on a tiny 3 rai plot.

If you lived by all the "laws" in Thailand then you might as well not bother getting out of bed !!

22 minutes ago, passiflora said:

Depending if you are Thai or farang, don't forget a foreigner can not work especially as farmer

Do you have personal experience about that? Most falangs who have farm, they work on their own property. 

43 minutes ago, passiflora said:

Depending if you are Thai or farang, don't forget a foreigner can not work especially as farmer

Yawn.

Give it a rest will ya.

In 15 years the only person who has worked/driven a tractor on our 64 rai (approx 25 acres) is, wait for it... me.

I live with a large extended farming family... they know what is best to plant in the area... and have made changes over the last 20 years. They are far more knowledgable than I am on the subject and so I do not get involved. Any thoughts I had as to what to grow etc.. would have been wrong. 

 

3 rai is not a lot of land but if you are calling the shots, be prepared to take the blame... they have been Isaan farmers longer than you. 

2 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Grow Mangos 

Everyone loves Mangos. 

I suggested this to my Thai missus and she is in the well watered South.

She said that Mangoes need constant watering when young , and they need protection from wandering cattle. Neither of which she could trust her family to do with us rarely there.

We paid family to  put in a line of coconuts and they started bickering about who would get the fruit after 4 years .. The Or Bor Tor convinced her to donate a sliver as an access rd . A brother-in-law has taken to using a corner to stockpile gravel he sells , sand as well. My view is that you have to be on that land regularly , almost constantly , to see it make anything..

Im just asking what is going together with teak tree? 

 

I guess some mushrooms will trive there, and then? It is all about making the best out of the land before and after we have planted hard wood that can benefit the family. 

 

We are not going to live there, and we do know the family is good taking care. Thay have proved that to me, with having a decent house, take care of the yeard, and their farmland. This is not anything I am considering as an investment for me, more like a little deposit for my gf for the future. 

Would avocados grow there? Seems that this crop could do well in isan

Take a hard look at farmers here that have more land than 3 rye and see what motor bike they can afford, hate to be a tad cynical but that's pretty much a starting point and do not follow there ideas about pigs / fish / rice sugar cane / rubber etc .

Yellow lemons?

 

Hotels use them for cocktails

4 hours ago, passiflora said:

Depending if you are Thai or farang, don't forget a foreigner can not work especially as farmer

nonsense. I have been working on my wife's 60 rai plot of land for the last 20 years. My friends wife has a Macadamia farm and he actively sells the nuts to the supermarkets. There are thousands of expats tending their wife's farms. 

hello, is cassava good profit ?

 

2 minutes ago, gamini said:

nonsense. I have been working on my wife's 60 rai plot of land for the last 20 years. My friends wife has a Macadamia farm and he actively sells the nuts to the supermarkets. There are thousands of expats tending their wife's farms. 

 

They might do it but it's not legal anyway.

 

 

Grow Tasmanian Blue Gum. 8 metres high in 5 years, mature height 40 metres. Sell shares in the crop to timber investors. Charge management fees which extinguish their capital.

2 hours ago, Liverpudlian said:

Take a hard look at farmers here that have more land than 3 rye and see what motor bike they can afford, hate to be a tad cynical but that's pretty much a starting point and do not follow there ideas about pigs / fish / rice sugar cane / rubber etc .

Thank you for yor concern, but this is not for me. I have everything I need, and not looking for an investment I am going to be rich of. Call it sin sod to my gf if you like ???? 

 

I just want her to have something at her home, and something her parents can help out with and also get some in return. I really think  teak and mushrooms is a good idea, and then something that will not compete with the teak trees, but rather support them. 

A high value (Saffron?) crop needing only a small area to make it financially viable? 

Hello,

I have 5 rai and 3 rai lands and I plant rosewood 800 pieces ( one cupic meter 5000 USD)

Solarpanel with pump and 2500l tank,drillwell 22m deep and from Glopal water tupes for all plants.

After two years woods are already 2 meter high.

Good investment for children

Best Regards

Eero /Chaiyaphum

7 hours ago, Chicken George said:

Grow for yourself and family. Dont try to grow to sell it sort of costs too much as in looking after prooerly. Lemon trees. Mangoes. Other fruits. Mulberrys for sure. Bannanas. Beens. Okra. Make your own fertilizer and sprays to keep the insects down. If it needs spraying with insecticude dont grow it. 

Look on youtube fir ideas.

 

Thai friend grow fruit trees with his 5 rais of land in Rayong employing a farmer to till the land. Come harvesting time, he gifted me a few bags of fruits. Mangos and such. Missus asked why the fruits taste so so and smaller size than normal. His answer was 

maybe lack of fertilizers. Costs of planting and maintaining the trees is more than the value of the harvest. So I would consider it a hobby for ‘boutique’ fruits . You could have gotten better fruits from the fruit market at a lower cost.

Reminds me of my friend in Victoria Australia who employs a farmer to grow grapes for wine making on his land. Each year he would make a couple of thousand bottles of wine with his own label as gifts to his customers. Cost of producing own wine is not any cheaper than outright buying in bulk from big producers but he is anamoured with the idea of having his own label (company logo) on the bottles. 

If you want a small farm in Thailand, you have to start with a large farm that is family run. Than just wait a few years. 

avocados are the go take a few years  good resale and will only get better over time 3 rai you could turn a dollar or two

4 hours ago, myshem said:

hello, is cassava good profit ?

 

No.