sambum Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, alzack said: Has anyone here actually been made to feel they are welcome in Thailand by Immigration Officials ??? YES every year for 20 years POLICE STATE mentality and it will get worse, best vote with your feet Think you misunderstood the question! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danthai Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Gecko123 said: I hear where you're coming from, but given that a substantial percentage of Thais have income less than 30k, and the average social security benefit in the US is $1,360 the 65k cost of admission seems somewhat arbitrary. It should also be kept in mind that this change was announced without warning less than 90 days prior to implementation after remaining the same for decades. This is a fairly significant change and a longer lead in time to make adjustments would have been useful. I don't think this shows much sensitivity to the financial realities many people face. Your right! I believe there were 3 changes by end of January if you include Big Jokes request for leniency in 2019 until filers in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 At the age of 90= whatever the amount of his pension- he should be stamped in automatically.. How callous the Immigration people appear and yet they have the 'power' to waive the amounts- They do it everyday for agent initiated extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunFred Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I can only wish the full force of karma upon the heartless jackals. All will someday be old (if they are lucky). Those who do not have family members who are old, are rare indeed. Sadly, such people NEVER learn anything by the misfortune recycled upon them by their treatment of others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginjag Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Thinking too much maybe, the new rules are to frighten people into getting an Elite visa ( 5 years hassle free ) THEN after 6 months they ease off and make new easier amendments. With the Elite buyers trapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, mokwit said: There is likely to be a stream of these stories in the foreign press. Might be enough to make Thailand take notice as they actually don't like being in a bad light internationally. But Don's post/story on The Nation carries as about much weight and one of zillions post on ThaiVisa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 When the game is up, everybody goes home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumarianson Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 At his age just the change in weather could see him off within a few months of moving home. Rediculous set of rules. If they ask for your accounts for the year showing you are spending while holding sufficient in the bank then that should be acceptable. What they are doing is penalising the majority of retirees on account of a few corrupt agents and police while rufusing to go after those who are involved in the corrupt practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppyone Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, trainman34014 said: It's never been the people that's welcome; only the money ! Yes you definitely notice that cenario as soon as you put first foot into Pattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danthai Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Totally agree with your comments. I appreciate the few on TV that have helped clarify rules and procedures without making condescending and discouraging remarks. Everyone is in the same boat, so to speak. Everybody should be helpful and do their best to support the expat family and retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, Soupdragon said: Has anyone here actually been made to feel they are welcome in Thailand by Immigration Officials ??? Yes! When I first came here about 20 years ago, the lady Immigration Officer asked me to sit down at her desk, and offered me a lollipop from a container on her desk! (And no, I wasn't a schoolchild at the time - I was in my 50's!) However, things have gone steadily downhill since then, and a visit to Immigration now is akin to going to the dentist with toothache - something you have to do, but would rather not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, wreckingcountry said: The ignorance of folk on here about the new rules and then commenting is staggering ! Let’s make it clear “the 65k a month retirement extension will no longer be an option “ you all got that ???? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect I think someone needs to learn to read before calling anyone ignorant. The 65K a month is an option, has always been an option and will probably remain an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, trainman34014 said: Too late the Hangman cried....they are already the Laughing Stock of The World ! I take it the world you refer to is the tiny bubble you inhabit. Hardly anyone outside of this forum gives a fig about Thailand's immigration policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naamblar2014 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: Thailand receives aid ? ? I don't think so. When the tsunami struck, money was given as aid but the Thai government said they didn't want money, they wanted expertise. And then they arrested them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caine Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Henryford said: Would be interesting to follow some of these (sad) stories. What does a 90 (or 70 or 80) year old do returning to say the UK. With limited funds can you rent a home? would any Council provide you with a home? Do you get off the plane homeless (in -9C weather). Who gives a toss, should never have burnt their bridges in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amexpat Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Jingthing said: Without embassy letters strong indications that offices don't want to touch such applications. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app This is about the combination method which I believe allows for proof of monthly international transfers (account statements/bank book) plus money in the bank to combine for a total of 800K per year. No? But we don't really know much for sure yet, do we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingjai9 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 The biggest illusion is to call Thailand home. I do not mean this in a negative sense. Even the Visa applications say "Application for extension of Temporary stay in the Kingdom." I love living here and I think over 95% of Thai people are nice. I also work and drive here. However, Thailand has never pretended to be a land of refuge. You are a guest. Politics and situations change. I never dreamed 10 years ago my home country would consider building a wall to keep refugees and immigrants out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vukovar77 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 8 hours ago, trainman34014 said: It's never been the people that's welcome; only the money ! It is about You and a people You deal with.I feel very welcome here and my wife and my new Thai family are wonderful for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Caine said: Who gives a toss, should never have burnt their bridges in the first place Nasty post only will cause argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, sambum said: "Posted Thursday at 07:13 PM CONFIRMED: Foreigners now need to keep 800k in Thai bank for three months AFTER retirement extension is granted" Just what part of the word "CONFIRMED" do you not understand? Suggest you also read the attached police order No. 35/2561 from January 2019 for details of this "So Called Rumor". Except that the thread title that you quoted is FALSE, as often with ThaiVisa… It's not "now" but from March 1st So davidstipek is right to said that rules didn't change... yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardflory Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I have a friend, not in TH as of this writing, but in the USA. He has " lived" in Th for 10 years, meeting a Thai Lady after 2 years, he married { she had 2 children }. After several years of marriage they pooled their income and over a 4 year period bought 2 houses, 1 to reside in, one for her parents to live in. About 10 days ago he told me he was going on a trip to the US. One of the conversations we had was the proposed insurance requirements at the time. He stated that OVER 1000US dollars { he is 73 } a month was something THEY could not afford. Addl info: HE adopted her kids, paid the house payments for both properties, has both her kids in University, they scraped and saved for the marriage monies needed and deposited on time and withrew the monies when the ink was still wet on his extension. Now the sad part, we have been friends for 5 years, I have not heard word one from him since he left Japan 5 days ago, nor has his wife, usually we talk daily. All this Immigration rigamarow is really hurting people and I think famly will be destroyed by it. I think the impact will be: 15 to 20 percent famalies broken, 30 perent and upwrds other xpats will leave to find greener grass. Lets just say only 25 percent of people leave and a few people replace them, what loss to the economy will this be??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twizzian Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Remember the international help given to the trapped Thai cave boys who risked thier lives saving them. Flights to the uk afterwards to watch Man U etc! All forgotten about!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, BritManToo said: Paying cash for a home in a country where you have no right to reside is financial madness. Yes. And they've purposely made the PR/nationality so hard to get that the game is totally skewed in Thais favor. It's amazing how much they can get away with, thanks to their working girls ability to pull in elderly clientele. Indeed Amazing Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, amexpat said: This is about the combination method which I believe allows for proof of monthly international transfers (account statements/bank book) plus money in the bank to combine for a total of 800K per year. No? But we don't really know much for sure yet, do we? There is not one mention of the combo method in police order or clarifying method that covered income based applications without embassy letters. So, even if an office thinks it's OK, they have been given ZERO guidance of how exactly to enforce such applications, especially if there is no record of a full 12 monthly transfers. So reports we're getting so far give no cause for optimism. Why would you count on a method under such massive doubt if you have any other choice? Do you like being a guinea pig with so much on the line? Combo applications WITH embassy letter should be expected to be accepted as they have been for many years unless future reports indicate otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiSePuede419 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Had this man learned how to speak Thai and become a Thai citizen, we wouldn't be having this conversation, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, twizzian said: Remember the international help given to the trapped Thai cave boys who risked thier lives saving them. Flights to the uk afterwards to watch Man U etc! All forgotten about!! Sincerely, whats that got to with immigration rules/policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgarbo Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 8 hours ago, trainman34014 said: It's never been the people that's welcome; only the money ! Speak the language, work to help Thais, respect their values and culture, contribute to Thai society - and Gee!!! You're welcome. Always worked for me. Oh, my wife makes far more than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babacar Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Yes Thailand is the first country of the word where the corruptions is permanent for everything. The only item which is always requested is "MONEY MONEY", but where to get it ? To the Thai population ? Of course not ( Most of them are really poor), so, so simple let's go to the farang that's not a problem and even we don't like them at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Just now, MRToMRT said: Sincerely, whats that got to with immigration rules/policy? Nothing directly, of course. But many of us are feeling this recent set of very onerous, incredibly UNCLEAR police orders stinks of xenophobia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRToMRT Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 After reading many of the posts in thread I bet the airports will be packed tomorrow as so many of you pack your bags and leave in disgust/protest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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