Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) This is an awfully big bucket of molasses to spray over the green smog..here's hoping.. Edited February 8, 2019 by Odysseus123 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 Ordinarily I would be against such a thing but under the circumstances of the last 5 years you got to love it. The Greens must of mightily pissed off the big guy for this to happen. Thaksin and Yingluck will be pardoned and back in country within a month of the election no doubt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisswe Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Democracy FORGET IT, the military will allways have the main-power whatever happens after election . Read the constitution !! Than you understand, only to accept it and like it if we whant to stay in the country !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chrisswe said: Democracy FORGET IT, the military will allways have the main-power whatever happens after election . Read the constitution !! Than you understand, only to accept it and like it if we whant to stay in the country !!!! Yes - but Thai Constitutions can be, and frequently are, changed - especially if a totally unique and unexpected person in the political game suddenly heads up the government. We are in TOTALLY unchartered waters now ... Edited February 8, 2019 by Eligius 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: The current constitution won't last more than a few months IMO. All my Thai friends are eager for real change and are fed up with the military. No need to like the political situation to stay in Thailand. Ridiculous statement. Yes - what has happened today is a truly historic (and I am not exaggerating) game-changer in Thai politics. Stunning. But caution, great caution (I cannot say more) is still called for from those of us who love freedom of expression, the right to dissent, etc., etc. Nothing is clear yet. I just hope that a really clever, long-term plan is being implemented (I tend to think it is. Thaksin is no fool). Time will tell ... 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 An off topic post containing a profane video has been removed. Posts discussing a member of the Royal family entering into politics has been removed. You can read about that here: A post containing a reference to the PM which is disallowed on this site has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roobaa01 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 what democracy is , will be defined by 4 countries usa, india, china, russia the remaining global lot has to watch. wbr roobaa01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LomSak27 Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 12 minutes ago, Eligius said: Yes - what has happened today is a truly historic (and I am not exaggerating) game-changer in Thai politics. Stunning. But caution, great caution (I cannot say more) is still called for from those of us who love freedom of expression, the right to dissent, etc., etc. Nothing is clear yet. I just hope that a really clever, long-term plan is being implemented (I tend to think it is. Thaksin is no fool). Time will tell ... Suprised the heck out of me and now to watch the fallout if it is real news. I can't imagine how hard core Ultra R's and Yellows might react to this news. Wow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, LomSak27 said: Suprised the heck out of me and now to watch the fallout if it is real news. I can't imagine how hard core Ultra R's and Yellows might react to this news. Wow Yes, it is STUNNING news - TOTALLY unexpected (by me, anyhow). It is just such a pity that you and I and others here cannot discuss the pluses and minuses, our hopes and fears .... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Difficult to run against an opponent who is protected from criticism. But, Big P's plans have all but washed down the drain. He can't beat the opponent in an election, and even if there is a deadlock, no politician who values his head would nominate anyone other than the opponent to be PM. The REAL telling thing would be if the Thai Raksa Chart party get almost no votes, as people for the first time would be able to publicly but anonymously voice their REAL feelings about a certain family. Popcorn time... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Given the radically changed political landscape now, I would have thought that it was extremely unwise of Prayut (if the reports are true) to stand in opposition to the Thai Raksa Chart party ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SABloke said: Difficult to run against an opponent who is protected from criticism. But, Big P's plans have all but washed down the drain. He can't beat the opponent in an election, and even if there is a deadlock, no politician who values his head would nominate anyone other than the opponent to be PM. The REAL telling thing would be if the Thai Raksa Chart party get almost no votes, as people for the first time would be able to publicly but anonymously voice their REAL feelings about a certain family. Popcorn time... Your first sentence (the most important one I have read so far on this thread) is one that all of us should reflect upon very deeply, and mull over its implications ... Edited February 8, 2019 by Eligius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poohy Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 It appears the news has reached Lung ton in our village, now he was never little Ps greatest admirer Result is, well celebratory .....Well hes on his 2nd Leo now!it will be all all day affair for sure . i will join him after visiting Makro We are living in Interesting times for sure 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Eligius said: Given the radically changed political landscape now, I would have thought that it was extremely unwise of Prayut (if the reports are true) to stand in opposition to the Thai Raksa Chart party ... From many of my Thai work mates today, they think exactly the same, they are deeply suspicious of his reasons to carry on:-( 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) I quote from the above article: "The NCPO will likely maintain its grip on power, either with Prayut or another surrogate as next prime minister. The voting power of the 250 NCPO-appointed senators, enshrined in the 2017 constitution, assures that. So the question arises, why have elections at all? The vote will be a crucial barometer of whether Thailand is moving forward. A regional beacon for democracy and development during the 1990s and early 2000s, Thailand’s democratic progress was abruptly halted and reversed by the 2006 and 2014 military coups". When the army gets ousted, and sent out to pasture during the next election, the new administration must do everything in it's power to revise the constitution, or toss it completely. And those 250 totally compromised, bought and paid for NCPO senators need to be retired, forever. Thailand has no need for them, the people do not want them, and Prayuth will be long gone, one can only hope. The army overstepped all boundaries of decency, and patriotism, by committing this utter act of desperation. They demonstrated just how thirsty they are for power and fortune, and the people despise them for it. They need to be completely removed from all aspects of life, here in Thailand. The only thing they are good for, is maintaining the 12 million rai of land they own, training young boys to be obedient, and preventing the neighbors from planning a major incursion. LOL. In other words, next to nothing. GET OUT. Get out now. You are not wanted. You are not needed. You are not useful. You are not competent. You are hated by your people, and your xenophobia is forcing alot of good ex-pat men to leave forever, thereby harming the economy, and in my opinion the culture, as outside influence can only improve the nation, in this age of globalization. You are moving Thailand backwards at a breath taking pace. Edited February 8, 2019 by spidermike007 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAG Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Toknarok said: Maybe he'll write a song about it. "Yesterday, All my troubles seemed so far away, Oh how I long for yesterday..." 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAG Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, SABloke said: Difficult to run against an opponent who is protected from criticism Even more difficult to, umh, remove them by a coup to restore happiness and so forth! Well now, goodness gracious me, how extraordinary! Edited February 8, 2019 by JAG 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sujoop Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, LennyW said: 14 minutes ago, Eligius said: Given the radically changed political landscape now, I would have thought that it was extremely unwise of Prayut (if the reports are true) to stand in opposition to the Thai Raksa Chart party ... From many of my Thai work mates today, they think exactly the same, they are deeply suspicious of his reasons to carry on:-( And many are DEEPLY suspicious of Thaksin & his cynical SELF-serving at any price to Thai society... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, JAG said: Even more difficult to, umh, remove them by a coup to restore happiness and so forth! Yes, there are grounds for real concern - what might at first glance seem like good news could be a case of 'out of the frying pan - and into an even hotter fire'! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 My wife now knows which party to vote for. I guess this morning many Thais set their minds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bowerboy said: With this mornings developments I feel a real sense of jubilation. it feels like a dark cloud has been lifted from Thailand There's a sliver of hope - especially for westeners. Still, look what happened in the eastern neighbour, wasn't exactly what hoped. Edited February 8, 2019 by DrTuner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DrTuner said: There's a sliver of hope - especially for westeners. Yes, there is hope - as long as Thaksin has not been motivated out of an overriding desire for personal revenge against Prayut, without thinking of the consequences for the Thai people ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, JAG said: Even more difficult to, umh, remove them by a coup to restore happiness and so forth! Well now, goodness gracious me, how extraordinary! Was this the master plan all along? The pieces seam to fit: use the green buffoons to take over, change constitution, have direct control over parliament...ding ding ding. Big P must be fuming. I guess we'll have to create a new type of governing system: I call it a Democratic Autocratic Constitutional Monarchy. ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post from the home of CC Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, SABloke said: Difficult to run against an opponent who is protected from criticism according to international news agencies this is NOT the case, that the law being referred to above is not applicable.. Edited February 8, 2019 by from the home of CC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AGareth2 Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 a lady on a white horse to the rescue 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Eligius said: Yes, there is hope - as long as Thaksin has not been motivated out of an overriding desire for personal revenge against Prayut, without thinking of the consequences for the Thai people ... I think that Thaksin his power over the princess will be zero. So I doubt she will be doing exactly what he wants. With luck this might change some things or it could be an other way for the old elite to retain power. Who knows, i have no idea lets wait and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, robblok said: I think that Thaksin his power over the princess will be zero. So I doubt she will be doing exactly what he wants. With luck this might change some things or it could be an other way for the old elite to retain power. Who knows, i have no idea lets wait and see. Yes, Rob. Potentially, things are entering extremely dangerous waters. But if a certain law does NOT apply - then that really does bring a whole new dimension into the political game now ... Edited February 8, 2019 by Eligius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted February 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, SABloke said: Was this the master plan all along? The pieces seam to fit: use the green buffoons to take over, change constitution, have direct control over parliament...ding ding ding. Big P must be fuming. I guess we'll have to create a new type of governing system: I call it a Democratic Autocratic Constitutional Monarchy. ???? If Thais vote for it, then I'm all for it. Can't be worse than the previous coup-election cycle (famous last words...) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Lungstib said: How can you claim to have brought political stability when you have in fact banned anyone but yourself from participating? Its easy to win a race when you are the only runner. And sadly, even though he has allowed the others to enter he has considerably handicapped them. seems as if the handicapper might now somewhat handicapped …..oh what a shame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 minute ago, DrTuner said: If Thais vote for it, then I'm all for it. Can't be worse than the previous coup-election cycle (famous last words...) Yes, now as always - destiny lies in the hands of the Thais. They need to think really, really carefully about this one and exercise great foresight and discernment. Sadly, those are qualities for which the Thais are not especially renowned ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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