Yip..especially the ones involved in serious organised crime in my home city and many other UK cities!!

I know you know. My post was aimed at the Brexiteers who can't accept the fact that migrants from the EU have had a net positive effect on both the economy and society.
 
 

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May urged to embrace no deal Brexit (breaking news )

 

 https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-pm-urged-to-embrace-no-deal-after-third-commons-defeat-11678829

 

 

7 minutes ago, bomber said:

parliament want to remain,has it not sunk in yet,our great elected british sovereign bulldog MPs will make sure we remain more in than out purely for the sake of jobs and the economy,issue's most brexit voters had little interest in 3 years ago and still dont today,luckily more than enough experts have rightly predicted what will happen with crash out

Parliament are entirely responsible whichever way you look at it!

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

I can't see EU allowing this nonsence to continue past 12 April, not least cos they're petrified of Farage & the thought of Robinson gaining a platform too.

 

OMG petrified of tommy,spoons has got the better of you,but maybe i can understand the female Euro MPs being worried,

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

How about any of you answering this?

 

 

The problem that the "leave" vote threw up was very different from "remain", which was simply no change. A vote to leave was never a simple task, it was something that had to be negotiated with a counterparty, so there was never any equivalence. Remain involved no negotiation, no compromises, no trade offs. 

 

And those that blithely state that you "just leave" are either fools or being deliberately dishonest. There would have been legal action taken in international courts, immense reputational damage, problems with our WTO status, economic damage, and never ending trading issues with our biggest trade partner, not to mention that Irish issue, which would have resulted in the return of the men with guns. Whatever way you look at it remain was a simple decision, leave an incredibly complicated one.

 

His question makes no sense, the two decisions are not equivalent. And that's why we are in this mess. The scenario he is throwing up would never have happened. 

 

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I can't see EU allowing this nonsence to continue past 12 April, not least cos they're petrified of Farage & the thought of Robinson gaining a platform too.

 

Do you honestly think they want to hand Farage his prize? 

  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/248281

 

New leave petition, last one was debated already

4 minutes ago, bomber said:

OMG petrified of tommy,spoons has got the better of you,but maybe i can understand the female Euro MPs being worried,

 

I reckon most of the EU girls could give Tommy Islam a kicking.

 

 

" the return of the men of the guns " Please give one iota of proof for your assumption.

 
The problem that the "leave" vote threw up was very different from "remain", which was simply no change. A vote to leave was never a simple task, it was something that had to be negotiated with a counterparty, so there was never any equivalence. Remain involved no negotiation, no compromises, no trade offs. 
 
And those that blithely state that you "just leave" are either fools or being deliberately dishonest. There would have been legal action taken in international courts, immense reputational damage, problems with our WTO status, economic damage, and never ending trading issues with our biggest trade partner, not to mention that Irish issue, which would have resulted in the return of the men with guns. Whatever way you look at it remain was a simple decision, leave an incredibly complicated one.
 
His question makes no sense, the two decisions are not equivalent. And that's why we are in this mess. The scenario he is throwing up would never have happened. 
 
 
 
 
 

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7 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Yip..especially the ones involved in serious organised crime in my home city and many other UK cities!!

 

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organised crime will always exist,brexit or no brexit and the majority of poles etc are not connected to it

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

May urged to embrace no deal Brexit (breaking news )

 

 https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-pm-urged-to-embrace-no-deal-after-third-commons-defeat-11678829

 

 

I have a feeling I'll still wake up to Sonny & Cher on 13th ????

 

8 minutes ago, sanemax said:

May urged to embrace no deal Brexit (breaking news )

 

 https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-pm-urged-to-embrace-no-deal-after-third-commons-defeat-11678829

 

 

 

She cannot do it without parliament, who will force her Government out. The only thing she can do is call an election ... and the zealots want a crash out because they fear what an election would mean for Brexit.

 

 

Not talking bout poles..illegal alb####ns..rom$$$$ns and bul&&&&&ns

organised crime will always exist,brexit or no brexit and the majority of poles etc are not connected to it

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I know you know. My post was aimed at the Brexiteers who can't accept the fact that migrants from the EU have had a net positive effect on both the economy and society.
 
 

Total Bull. Who told you that?

12 minutes ago, bomber said:

OMG petrified of tommy,spoons has got the better of you,but maybe i can understand the female Euro MPs being worried,

Consider yerself on listening watch

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7 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

" the return of the men of the guns " Please give one iota of proof for your assumption.

 

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There has already been a car bomb in northern ireland, not to mention packages in the mail.

 

You think that no deal, which will result in borders (despite what the UK and Ireland state) will not bring back the troubles? 

 

 

 

 

 

 
It might have been Loiner trying to find his leaving party?
 

Nah, after my party I cold still find my way home.
It looks like any one of the illegals who jump off the back of wagons. This one took the wrong exit from the back of a Eurostar.

5 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Total Bull. Who told you that?

Recovered from your "leave party" hangover?

 

Your credibility has taken a hit.

 

 

13 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

Do you honestly think they want to hand Farage his prize? 

Think of it as ejecting an assassin bug from a termites nest.

1 minute ago, evadgib said:

Think of it as ejecting an assassin bug from a termites nest.

 

I don't really care whether people support leave or remain, I'm well past that. But the discussion really needs to be about what looks possible. The EU would never hand Farage the prize he wishes for, in fact, every time he opens his mouth it makes that outcome least likely. The EU will continue to extend until an agreement is reached. The only thing that might change that is a General Election that ushers in a Brexit Tory Government ... and I really don't think that is likely ... as I believe they will lose seats, not gain them. 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don't really care whether people support leave or remain, I'm well past that. But the discussion really needs to be about what looks possible. The EU would never hand Farage the prize he wishes for, in fact, every time he opens his mouth it makes that outcome least likely. The EU will continue to extend until an agreement is reached. The only thing that might change that is a General Election that ushers in a Brexit Tory Government ... and I really don't think that is likely ... as I believe they will lose seats, not gain them. 

I think they'll gladly be shot of him/us.

27 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

There has already been a car bomb in northern ireland, not to mention packages in the mail.

 

You think that no deal, which will result in borders (despite what the UK and Ireland state) will not bring back the troubles? 

Bombings, shootings, racketeering are very much part of the fabrique there and have never really gone away. There will not be a return of 'the Troubles' for a number of reasons inc the substantial rule changes post 2001 

In a word NO.
Security forces will already be " on top of them " watching and waiting " if I'm any judge. Please
do not go thro your life being intimidated..or thinking as an appeaser, it's the wrong way to go.

There has already been a car bomb in northern ireland, not to mention packages in the mail.
 
You think that no deal, which will result in borders (despite what the UK and Ireland state) will not bring back the troubles? 
 
 
 
 
 

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58 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I can't see EU allowing this nonsence to continue past 12 April, not least cos they're petrified of Farage & the thought of Robinson gaining a platform too.

Sounds like there's a lot of things you have trouble seeing.

Yip..they and labour will both lose seats to the Brexit Party[emoji2]

 
I don't really care whether people support leave or remain, I'm well past that. But the discussion really needs to be about what looks possible. The EU would never hand Farage the prize he wishes for, in fact, every time he opens his mouth it makes that outcome least likely. The EU will continue to extend until an agreement is reached. The only thing that might change that is a General Election that ushers in a Brexit Tory Government ... and I really don't think that is likely ... as I believe they will lose seats, not gain them. 
 
 
 

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1 minute ago, SheungWan said:

Sounds like there's a lot of things you have trouble seeing.

6' 18 Stone trolls are easy enough.

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

In a word NO.
Security forces will already be " on top of them " watching and waiting " if I'm any judge. Please
do not go thro your life being intimidated..or thinking as an appeaser, it's the wrong way to go.

 

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They were on top of them in the 70s and 80s, during the bombings in the City, Brighton, Birmingham ... etc. You are naive in the extreme if you believe that this cannot return or that it can be prevented by security forces. No one in Northern Ireland wants a return to those days, and no reassurances about security forces from people who don’t have to live with the consequences will change that.

5 hours ago, bomber said:

so you want more power to the clowns the same clowns you expect to make Britain great again,i think you need to wake up and realise these clowns are not the what you think they are,British is not best and never will be,your living in the past old man,you need a reality check

 

 For once I’m going to agree with you, I’m only surprised that no other remainer has raised this point. My only worry in regards to Brexit, is the quality, or should I say the lack of quality of our political elite.

 To parrot quote a German General in www1, and others before him.

 “ The British are Lions led by donkeys”

 

 

3 hours ago, evadgib said:

That's on par with the photo of fatty in UJ rig re originality once again from you. ????

 

Here's proof that all is not lost from your unfortunate direction:

 

I’ve heard many remain voting people, say exactly the same.

Which is good, because although Brexit is very important, off greater importance is Democracy.

23 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

They were on top of them in the 70s and 80s, during the bombings in the City, Brighton, Birmingham ... etc. You are naive in the extreme if you believe that this cannot return or that it can be prevented by security forces. No one in Northern Ireland wants a return to those days, and no reassurances about security forces from people who don’t have to live with the consequences will change that.

The security forces have much more technology these days .

All phones can be listened too and traced and cameras are everywhere .

All private conversations can be listened too and suspects can be monitored 24/7