Hundreds of thousands march in London to demand new Brexit referendum

[Spidey]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Not this again .

Must we have this discussion AGAIN ?

Here we go again .

That wasnt a promise , that was a suggestion of what we could do with the savings .

   *It wasnt 350 Million a week*

That was the figure before the rebate

 *It wasnt a rebate"

Can you finish this discussion off ?

                       

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, simple1 said:

IMO Farnge has only been in it for himself - the guy is a proven coward & disingenuous for not owning the outcome of the referendum. 

What do you mean by that ?

That Ferage should have led the negotiations with the E.U.?

He wasnt in the Conservative party and the leader of the Conservative Party deals with negotiations with the EU .

  Ferage could not have led the UK inn negotiations with the E,U 

[simple1]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

What do you mean by that ?

That Ferage should have led the negotiations with the E.U.?

He wasnt in the Conservative party and the leader of the Conservative Party deals with negotiations with the EU .

  Ferage could not have led the UK inn negotiations with the E,U 

Perhaps you have forgotten he walked away from UKIP after the referendum.

 

IMO a good summary of Farage.

 

Explicitly addressing Farage, Verhofstadt added, "... Ok. Let's be positive. Finally, we're going to get rid of the biggest waste in the budget of the (European) Union, that we have paid for 17 years, your salary."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Brexit_(2016–present)

[TopDeadSenter]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Perhaps you have forgotten he walked away from UKIP after the referendum.

 

Walked away? No. He won. Against all odds he delivered a victory in the referendum (a referendum that PM Cameron promised would be honored). He thought the authorities could not be so dishonest and crass to cancel what the voters decided, so his work was done. Now we see the remainers trying to upend democracy he is back on the scene. Nothing cowardly about it from Farage's end.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

O.K. I’ll repost from another Brexit thread. 

 

 

Just yesterday in our local Lidl supermarket, I got into conversation with one of the assistants. He found it very easy to obtain employment in this area, even though he’s Romanian, due to the fact he’s only about 23yrs old, speaks very good English,university educated. As I say just a shop assistant.

Meanwhile there are many young Brits, who want to work hard in this area who would love his job, but not being university educated, the same as 50% of today’s school leavers,what chance do they have, against such competition, to obtain this low paid work. 

 Average minimum monthly salary in Romania is approximate £235. While for a graduate it’s £260.

 Again yesterday I was informed about one local business, that has amongst their staff, a Polish girl, who is responsible for recruitment. Unfortunately she’s biased to only employing Poles, for no other reason that they are fellow Poles. So unlike some so called Brits who always seem to prefer to discriminate against their fellow countryman.

But why should selfish people be concerned, about other,when it does’t directly affect them

 These are of course only small examples of what is taking place throughout the country, and people wonder why Nigel used the slogan,

” We want our country back”

Utter hogwash.

 

UK unemployment rate is currently 3.9% the lowest for decades.

 

Any young person (who is employable) and wants a job, can get a job.

 

The qualification that gets young people jobs as ‘assistants’ at Lidl’s and any other customer facing job is a good character, good work ethic and a  good attitude towards serving the customer. Turning up clean and presentable does’t hurt.

I’ll guarantee it is those qualities and not a degree that got your Polish assistant his job, not his degree.

 

East Europeans have done remarkably well in customer facing jobs for these precise reasons. 

 

Your assertions regarding your Polish recruiter are little more than Chinese whispers, you heard .... and then you told us.

 

One of the most striking improvements in the UK is that of customer service were Europeans are behind bars, cash tills, serving in shops, hotels and restaurants - replacing the customary English attitudes of don’t give a crap and/or ‘I’m doing you the customer a favour’ and putting in its place real service.

 

3.9% unemployment, any employable British person can find a job, but they might have to work.

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate

Edited March 28, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[Laughing Gravy]

21 minutes ago, simple1 said:

IMO Farnge has only been in it for himself - the guy is a proven coward & disingenuous for not owning the outcome of the referendum. However, we have to agree to disagree. A referendum which will dictate the structure of the UK for decades to come and doesn't take into account a clear majority e.g. 70%, is obviously going to create significant discord, which it has done so - huge mistake by Cameron.

We have to disagree on Farage then but. where is your evidence that Farage is coward & disingenuous? The man wasn't an MP and wasn't allowed on the official leave team. he has done more for leave than anyone else in the UK.

 

But David Cameron never said it was 70% majority vote. You can't change the parameters to suit the outcome when you don't like the result. He stated over and over again. Once in a lifetime vote and the majority result will be respected.

 

Obviously like TM saying over 100 times we will leave the EU on 29th March 2019. MP's and PM's constantly lie through their teeth and should be held accountable for it. I believe they still have cells in the Tower and also the Hague, for the likes of Tony Blair.

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, sanemax said:

What do you mean by that ?

That Ferage should have led the negotiations with the E.U.?

He wasnt in the Conservative party and the leader of the Conservative Party deals with negotiations with the EU .

  Ferage could not have led the UK inn negotiations with the E,U 

The evidence strongly suggests the Tories couldn’t either.

 

Especially the Brexiteer Tories who sniped in the background refusing to step forward and lead what they had visited on the nation.

[simple1]

1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Walked away? No. He won. Against all odds he delivered a victory in the referendum (a referendum that PM Cameron promised would be honored). He thought the authorities could not be so dishonest and crass to cancel what the voters decided, so his work was done. Now we see the remainers trying to upend democracy he is back on the scene. Nothing cowardly about it from Farage's end.

Waked away in order to develop closer ties to trump (you know the guy who constantly insults and demeans the UK) at least that is what he claimed at the time. The guy is a blatant self serving opportunist who lied throughout the Brexit campaign as well as appealed to bigotry.

[simple1]

10 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

But David Cameron never said it was 70% majority vote

I said as an example. Precisely my point, totally incompetent with establishing the rules for such as important event.

Edited March 28, 2019 by simple1

[sanemax]

15 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Perhaps you have forgotten he walked away from UKIP after the referendum.

 

IMO a good summary of Farage.

 

Explicitly addressing Farage, Verhofstadt added, "... Ok. Let's be positive. Finally, we're going to get rid of the biggest waste in the budget of the (European) Union, that we have paid for 17 years, your salary."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Farage#Brexit_(2016–present)

Yes , the reason  for UKIP's existence was the get a referendum on the UK leaving the E.U.

As soon as the referendum was announced there was no need to UKIPs existence anymore, job done 

[sanemax]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Waked away in order to develop closer ties to trump (you know the guy who constantly insults and demeans the UK) at least that is what he claimed at the time. The guy is a blatant self serving opportunist who lied throughout the Brexit campaign as well as appealed to bigotry.

Its a bit early for mindless rant , its 7.30 AM here now , what time is it where you are ?

[simple1]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Yes , the reason  for UKIP's existence was the get a referendum on the UK leaving the E.U.

As soon as the referendum was announced there was no need to UKIPs existence anymore, job done 

Nonsense, read his manifesto leading up to the referendum.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/15/ukip-manifesto-2015-the-key-points

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its a bit early for mindless rant , its 7.30 AM here now , what time is it where you are ?

Not the 1950’s and not going back to the 1950’s either.

[TopDeadSenter]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Waked away in order to develop closer ties to trump (you know the guy who constantly insults and demeans the UK) at least that is what he claimed at the time.

You accidentally make a very good point, but first let's clear the lie that Trump constantly insults and demeans the UK. Trump is a strong supporter of the UK, and a supporter of Brexit. Trump fully realizes the EU is a doomed entity and far removed from the trading bloc it was designed to be from the outset.

 

 Now, the important point is, we need to Brexit while Trump is President to enable us to get a good trade deal with the US as Trump promised. Remember Obama(the actual guy that insults and demeans the UK) said we would be at the "back of the queue" for trade deals and Trump said that was BS and that he would like to work out a deal. If we let the globalists derail Brexit and then finally get it when some democrat is POTUS then yes we could well have problems. This farce is totally on the shoulders of the remainers that are trying to derail the democratic process.

 

 Most Brits I know are Brexiting tomorrow, the 29th March, as they voted to do, and as was promised by Cameron when he gave them the referendum. Just imagine after the next Gen election if Labour win, and people say Oh but they didnt understand what they voted for, or oh we need another vote. Absolute insanity. Just get on with Brexit, a hard Brexit, tomorrow. Or there will be bigger problems than imaginable.

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

Nonsense, read his manifesto leading up to the referendum.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/15/ukip-manifesto-2015-the-key-points

 

 

a 76 page manifesto at 7.30 in the morning .

Give me a break will ya

As if Im going to read a 76 vpafge manifesto !!!!!!!!

[simple1]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its a bit early for mindless rant , its 7.30 AM here now , what time is it where you are ?

Mindless rant? you mean informed commentary don't you. Currently 10:25AM, just about to leave for my volunteer task of delivering meals for the elderly - Meals on Wheels.

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not the 1950’s and not going back to the 1950’s either.

I understand the joke , but the joke doesnt really fit into what you replied to 

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

You accidentally make a very good point, but first let's clear the lie that Trump constantly insults and demeans the UK. Trump is a strong supporter of the UK, and a supporter of Brexit. Trump fully realizes the EU is a doomed entity and far removed from the trading bloc it was designed to be from the outset.

 

 Now, the important point is, we need to Brexit while Trump is President to enable us to get a good trade deal with the US as Trump promised. Remember Obama(the actual guy that insults and demeans the UK) said we would be at the "back of the queue" for trade deals and Trump said that was BS and that he would like to work out a deal. If we let the globalists derail Brexit and then finally get it when some democrat is POTUS then yes we could well have problems. This farce is totally on the shoulders of the remainers that are trying to derail the democratic process.

 

 Most Brits I know are Brexiting tomorrow, the 29th March, as they voted to do, and as was promised by Cameron when he gave them the referendum. Just imagine after the next Gen election if Labour win, and people say Oh but they didnt understand what they voted for, or oh we need another vote. Absolute insanity. Just get on with Brexit, a hard Brexit, tomorrow. Or there will be bigger problems than imaginable.

Trump’s support for Brexit and break up of the EU can be explained by answering the question cui bono.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

I understand the joke , but the joke doesnt really fit into what you replied to 

Sadly, or rather tragically, it wan’t a joke.

[sanemax]

23 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Waked away in order to develop closer ties to trump 

You are stating that Ferage walked away !!!!!!!!!

He is now currently in Brussels , speaking , giving speeches to the E.U leaders , telling them to reject not to extend any negotiations and kick us out of the E.U

[welovesundaysatspace]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

You are stating that Ferage walked away !!!!!!!!!

He is now currently in Brussels , speaking , giving speeches to the E.U leaders , telling them to reject not to extend any negotiations and kick us out of the E.U

Funny how a country that wants to “take back control” and be “sovereign” needs to be kicked out. 

 

But I agree. We should no longer entertain this Brexit circus with our resources and money. The EU is one of the superpowers in this world and has more important things on the agenda. We must now stop Brexiteers exploiting our patience and generosity for their circus. Time to make decisions. Ideally that will lead to the UK leaving, all Brexiteers and Tories being kicked out of the country by the angry people and a committed UK coming back. 

[sanemax]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Perhaps you have forgotten he walked away from UKIP after the referendum.

 

 

You are talking about this guy walking away from Brexit ?

From today...............

 

 

[wilcopops]

For three years, I've been trying to work out why so m any people can behave so irrationally and I now believe I have an answer...or at least an insight.

 

I was watching the TV series Baptiste and suddenly realised that fir many people there is a disconnect....they feel they are not part of and never will be part of this world. A world where French people are married to British and live in Amsterdam and speaking multiple languages, cross borders all over Europe as part of their job.........

Unable to conceive of this they then begin to fear hate and reject it......hence they become fodder for Brexitism.

Edited March 28, 2019 by wilcopops

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

For three years, I've been trying to work out why so m any people can behave so irrationally and I now believe I have an answer...or at least an insight.

 

I was watching the TV series Baptiste and suddenly realised that fir many people there is a disconnect....they feel they are not part of and never will be part of this world. A world where French people are married to British and live in Amsterdam and cross borders all over Europe as part of their job.........

Unable to conceive of this they then begin to fear hate and reject it......hence they become fodder for Brexitism.

Although you still havent worked it out and you will have to go and think again , Nigel Ferage , Brexit leader was married to an Irish woman and is now married to a German woman .

   Back to the drawing board 

[stephenterry]

12 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

Where have you heard and read this opinion. Certainly not in the part of the U.K.where I live. An area that has been greatly effected by the immigration of Eastern Europeans. 

 

Clearly you're not up to date. Read yesterday and today's UK news.

[wilcopops]

31 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Although you still havent worked it out and you will have to go and think again , Nigel Ferage , Brexit leader was married to an Irish woman and is now married to a German woman .

   Back to the drawing board 

I would think this rather reinforces the argument. It also explains how easily led by hypocrites people can be.

 

The same fallacy as

"I can't be racist, I'm married to a Thai"

Edited March 28, 2019 by wilcopops

[sanemax]

11 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

I would think this rather reinforces the argument. It also explains how easily led by hypocrites people can be.

 

The same fallacy as

"I can't be racist, I'm married to a Thai"

Rather odd that White people who want to remain unified with their White European Brothers , make the allegation that those who dont want to be unified with White Europeans are, ahem........................... racist .

   You want to remain chained to your White European homeland and I prefer to branch out and to be aligned with non white Countries..................and you call me a racist .

   You need to go back to the drawing board and stay there a while and think things through 

[JonnyF]

54 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

For three years, I've been trying to work out why so m any people can behave so irrationally and I now believe I have an answer...or at least an insight.

 

I was watching the TV series Baptiste and suddenly realised that fir many people there is a disconnect....they feel they are not part of and never will be part of this world. A world where French people are married to British and live in Amsterdam and speaking multiple languages, cross borders all over Europe as part of their job.........

Unable to conceive of this they then begin to fear hate and reject it......hence they become fodder for Brexitism.

And yet there are members of this forum who are married to "foreigners", work in a foreign country/countries and speak multiple languages who support Brexit.

 

It has nothing to do with fear or hate for the vast majority, that's a lazy argument by Remainers who are trying to take the moral high ground. It's about having the belief in your own country to want to run your own country under your own policies and your own laws. Just as so many successful countries around the world do. There's nothing righteous about hiding under the skirt of the EU because you don't have the courage/self-belief/ability to run your own affairs.

[bert bloggs]

I have nothing whatsoever against Europe as a whole ,i have spent a long time in Italy and love it ,what i hate about the E.U  id Brussels and all the snout in trough people who tell us what to do Junker and co , that is what i want to leave , the unelected ones who care nothing about Europe and us little people ,just in it for themselves , that is what i want out of .

[malagateddy]

When has the oh so glorious jobsworths in brussels ever asked european citizens what THEY WANT??
Answers on a postcard please[emoji6]

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