Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, 7by7 said: At the moment we will be leaving; it is not the EU who are stopping us, it is Parliament who wont agree on the future relationship between us and the EU. Something the EU have already agreed upon. The only thing which will stop us leaving is if we are allowed to make a democratic decision on the terms of leaving and instead we democratically decide to remain after all. On the first round of indicate voting parliament was obviously listening to you. The highest vote was for a people's vote (referendum). Remain/second most popular (leave but keep customs union.). There is light at the end of the tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tebee Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spidey said: On the first round of indicate voting parliament was obviously listening to you. The highest vote was for a people's vote (referendum). Remain/second most popular (leave but keep customs union.). There is light at the end of the tunnel. Everybody knows what sort of Brexit they don't want, but nobody knows what sort they do want...... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, tebee said: Everybody knows what sort of Brexit they don't want, but nobody knows what sort they do want...... Its quite simple . Voters wanted to leave the E.U Completely leave , have the same relationship with the E.U. that the USA has with the E.U 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: Its quite simple . Voters wanted to leave the E.U Completely leave , have the same relationship with the E.U. that the USA has with the E.U WTO option was rejected by the highest margin 139-422 tonight, so MP's don't agree with you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinny41 Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, 7by7 said: So, no deal? You voted to cut all ties with our biggest trading partner with no idea with what or who to replace them? Really? What do you think would happen when we lost our largest trading partner with noting to replace them?. I didn't realise that Cameron was part of the leave campaign! Most people I know that voted in the 2016 referendum listen to both the remain and leave side before casting their votes Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, vinny41 said: Most people I know that voted in the 2016 referendum listen to both the remain and leave side before casting their votes Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ Oh no they didn't ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, sanemax said: Its quite simple . Voters wanted to leave the E.U Completely leave , have the same relationship with the E.U. that the USA has with the E.U 52% of voters did. 48% didn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Most people I know that voted in the 2016 referendum listen to both the remain and leave side before casting their votes Unfortunately, all they heard was a pack of lies. That has become clear over the last 3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post vinny41 Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Spidey said: Unfortunately, all they heard was a pack of lies. That has become clear over the last 3 years. If you going to quote my posts please quote for entire post not a selective portion here it is again in full Most people I know that voted in the 2016 referendum listen to both the remain and leave side before casting their votes Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, vinny41 said: If you going to quote my posts please quote for entire post not a selective portion here it is again in full Most people I know that voted in the 2016 referendum listen to both the remain and leave side before casting their votes Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ Unfortunately, all they heard was a pack of lies. Happy now? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, tebee said: Oh no they didn't ... Oh yes they did "David Cameron !!28 TIMES!! "Leave Single Market" (June 2016)" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinny41 Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Spidey said: Unfortunately, all they heard was a pack of lies. Happy now? And what lies were told when they stated Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ Cameron, Osborne and Clegg were all remainers are you staying that remainers were telling lies when they stated the above 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, tebee said: Everybody knows what sort of Brexit they don't want, but nobody knows what sort they do want...... You keep saying that over and over again. Are you trying to subliminally convince yourself or others. many have told you over and over again what sort of brexit you want but you choose to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Spidey said: 52% of voters did. 48% didn't. So as a binary vote 52% win. Accept it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, vinny41 said: And what lies were told when they stated Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ Cameron, Osborne and Clegg were all remainers are you staying that remainers were telling lies when they stated the above 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, tebee said: WTO option was rejected by the highest margin 139-422 tonight, so MP's don't agree with you Luckily 600 plus self serving MP's do not equate to 17.4 million voters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spidey said: Is that your bus ride. So some politicians said things. Only those with narrow minds would assume people voted because of a slogan on a bus. GE here we come!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: So as a binary vote 52% win. Accept it. My objection is to people who say, "Voters voted to leave", which suggests that all voters voted to leave. "Some voters", or "the majority of voters", I'm happy with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, tebee said: WTO option was rejected by the highest margin 139-422 tonight, so MP's don't agree with you But none had a majority so all a load of hot wind from these self serving MP's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinny41 Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Spidey said: Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ So when all of the above stated that if your vote leave you would Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ they weren't telling lies as you implied 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Spidey said: My objection is to people who say, "Voters voted to leave", which suggests that all voters voted to leave. "Some voters", or "the majority of voters", I'm happy with. 52 % is the precise figure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, vinny41 said: People that voted Leave did understand what they were voting for Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ David Cameron !!28 TIMES!! "Leave Single Market" (June 2016) You know thanks for reposting this. I have posted it numerous times and some posters who obviously have the higher interlect, still pretend that it never happened. Yet these are the political keyboard warriors who know all.. Maybe this should be posted every day just to remind people again and again. Once again thank you. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 9 hours ago, nausea said: I would've thought 1 million in London and 200 in Nottinghamshire spoke for itself. Not that I care, a short, sharp, shock is just what the UK needs. Go out without a deal I say. It has now been debunked. There was nowhere near 1 million in the march in London last weekend. Go without a deal. I like it but it will be the EU that the shock would be felt more especially Eire. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, sanemax said: 52 % is the precise figure To permit scraping over the line was an act of gross incompetence by Cameron. The disaster of Brexit is indisputable. But just like trump presidency, to reverse the awful selection would likely cause civil chaos for years to come. As an UK citizen living in Australia it is very sad to observe the terrible inflicted wounds by self serving cowardly politicians such as Boris and Farage. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, simple1 said: As an UK citizen living in Australia it is very sad to observe the terrible inflicted wounds by self serving cowardly politicians such as Boris and Farage. How can Farage be self serving. He has been an MEP for 20 years and dedicated his time to getting the UK a referendum, which he did and leaving the EU. He is now making himself redundant. Hardly self serving. 8 minutes ago, simple1 said: But just like trump presidency, to reverse the awful selection would likely cause civil chaos for years to come. This I agree with you. 8 minutes ago, simple1 said: To permit scraping over the line was an act of gross incompetence by Cameron. The disaster of Brexit is indisputable. That's what happens in a binary referendum. The more votes wins. Same as the Scottish referendum. Adults usually accept the result with grace. Cameron can't be blamed for giving the people the choice, as he and many other politicians have been promising it for years ,such as Blair etc. You sound like your blaming Cameron because he gave the people the choice and the choice that won, isn't what you agree with. Edited March 27, 2019 by Laughing Gravy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ So when all of the above stated that if your vote leave you would Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ they weren't telling lies as you implied They also said that the country would benefit by £350m/week, which would be put into the NHS. A blatant lie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Just now, Laughing Gravy said: How can Farage be self serving. He has been an MEP for 20 years and dedicated his time to getting the UK a referendum, which he did and leaving the EU. He is now making himself redundant. Hardly self serving. This I agree with you. That's what happens in a binary referendum. The more votes wins. Same as the Scottish referendum. Adults usually accept the result with grace. Cameron can't be blamed for giving the people the choice, as he and many other politicians have been promising it for years ,such as Blair etc. You sound like your blaming Cameron because he gave the people the choice and the choice that won, isn't what you agree with. IMO Farnge has only been in it for himself - the guy is a proven coward & disingenuous for not owning the outcome of the referendum. However, we have to agree to disagree. A referendum which will dictate the structure of the UK for decades to come and doesn't take into account a clear majority e.g. 70%, is obviously going to create significant discord, which it has done so - huge mistake by Cameron. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, vinny41 said: And what lies were told when they stated Cameron, Boris Gove Osborne and Clegg all made it crystal clear multiple times that voting leave would mean Leave the EU, Leave the single market, leave the custom union , Leave the ECJ Cameron, Osborne and Clegg were all remainers are you staying that remainers were telling lies when they stated the above Yes. Many lies, mistruths and false promises on both sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Spidey said: They also said that the country would benefit by £350m/week, which would be put into the NHS. A blatant lie. Not this again . Must we have this discussion AGAIN ? Here we go again . That wasnt a promise , that was a suggestion of what we could do with the savings . *It wasnt 350 Million a week* That was the figure before the rebate *It wasnt a rebate" Can you finish this discussion off ? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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