Mia Farang

[GreasyFingers]

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its perhaps heartless that I wouldn't find companionship in someone with whom I was unable to communicate in detail, who had views beyond 'som-tam' and who is financially independent enough not need me for financial security.... but thats just me

Don't ever leave the city as you might need someone who can identify edible food in the country.

Or as Basil Faulty has often said "pompous t***"

[puchooay]

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Such is the spectrum of different opinions and experiences.... 

 

I'm glad there are guys who are prepared to do the humanitarian thing and offer the poor and uneducated an alternative future...

 

Its perhaps heartless that I wouldn't find companionship in someone with whom I was unable to communicate in detail, who had views beyond 'som-tam' and who is financially independent enough not need me for financial security.... but thats just me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Trying to get your point across whilst using such broad generalisations fails.

[richard_smith237]

47 minutes ago, puchooay said:

There is a flip side to this too.

 

It makes me cringe when I hear expats referring to their wife as "Thai wife". She is, quite simply, your wife.

 

I think it may be necessary context in many of the subjects discussed....   The same with referring to friends as Thai Friends when necessary... 

 

It'd be just outright strange if doing so in person with your Wife right next do you... Especially if she isn't Thai...  (see what I did there?.... the point needed context, the point would be better understood if I wrote 'with your Thai Wife right next to you')... 

[richard_smith237]

3 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its perhaps heartless that I wouldn't find companionship in someone with whom I was unable to communicate in detail, who had views beyond 'som-tam' and who is financially independent enough not need me for financial security.... but thats just me

Don't ever leave the city as you might need someone who can identify edible food in the country.

Or as Basil Faulty has often said "pompous t***"

 

It takes a certain strength to be with a lady and not know if she is with you because she truly loves you, or if she's with you because being with you is better than a factory job or workin in the bar...  

 

I guess at least she can teach you which grubs are edible... that must be one of life's wins right there !!!!

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

I’ve heard it used a couple of times.

First time when the couple over the soi were having a real set too and she stormed out, got on the mc and shouted she was off to Pattaya to become a Mia Farang.

Second time was when a middle aged sweaty fat thing working at the local market asked my gf if i had any single relatives ?
I replied, via the gf, that my father was single but 89 years old, she looked interested [emoji848] and said something about her wanting to be a Mia Farang.

On both occasions my gf wasn’t upset just found it humorous.

[GreasyFingers]

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

 

It takes a certain strength to be with a lady and not know if she is with you because she truly loves you, or if she's with you because being with you is better than a factory job or workin in the bar...  

 

I guess at least she can teach you which grubs are edible... that must be one of life's wins right there !!!!

 

You are not talking about mine. Are you talking about the one that loves you only for you brilliant mind.

[puchooay]

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I think it may be necessary context in many of the subjects discussed....   The same with referring to friends as Thai Friends when necessary... 

Not at all. It is feasible that someone may have friends of different nationality. 

 

Is it, legally, inconceivable to have more than one wife.

[Pharoticus]

26 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I think love is much more important and sexually compatible and the ability to be a good mother.

 

 

RE: the ability to be a good mother

 

You've nailed it. That's all it comes to.

 

If you get divorced [and we all do], you'll always respect your ex if she's a good mother. And that'll lay the foundations for responsible co-parenting. 

[rumak]

24 minutes ago, puchooay said:

ts perhaps heartless that I wouldn't find companionship in someone with whom I was unable to communicate in detail, who had views beyond 'som-tam' and who is financially independent enough not need me for financial security.... but thats just me.

i think you're right .  Maybe it is just you !   Even your socio-economic friend from the village recently posted this gem :  " Over the years I have come to view checklists as objectifying, demeaning and generally unproductive.  While some things may be considered important enough to be dealbreakers, like smoking, drinking, gambling, dishonesty or stupidity, each couple is different."   

I am not surprised he has not taken that issue up with you.....  selective b reading i believe its called .

Edited April 7, 2019 by rumak

[puchooay]

Just now, rumak said:

i think you're right .  Maybe it is just you !   Even your socio-economic friend from the village recently posted this gem :  " Over the years I have come to view checklists as objectifying, demeaning and generally unproductive.  While some things may be considered important enough to be dealbreakers, like smoking, drinking, gambling, dishonesty or stupidity, each couple is different."   

I am not surprised he has not taken that issue up with you.....  selective b reading i believe its called .

You have your quotation marks incorrect. I did not say that.

[rumak]

Just to get back on subject.   Nothing wrong if I hear reference to Farang.   Or reference to Mia Farang.

I have been here long enough to know that it depends on   WHICH farang      and Which  mia farang.

Thais know good character...... and its not related to background .  

 

Edited April 7, 2019 by rumak

[rumak]

5 minutes ago, puchooay said:

You have your quotation marks incorrect. I did not say that.

i don't see where in that post it refers to you.   OK, now i see.  Yes, it was a response to R Smith.  That is his quote......  sorry your name came up when i tried to post it.  ????

[villagefarang]

14 minutes ago, Pharoticus said:

RE: the ability to be a good mother

 

You've nailed it. That's all it comes to.

 

If you get divorced [and we all do], you'll always respect your ex if she's a good mother. And that'll lay the foundations for responsible co-parenting. 

No kids and no divorce for me.  Language proficiency for parties and the ability to discuss things in depth in either language is more important for me.

[kevvy]

13 minutes ago, rumak said:

i think you're right .  Maybe it is just you !   Even your socio-economic friend from the village recently posted this gem :  " Over the years I have come to view checklists as objectifying, demeaning and generally unproductive.  While some things may be considered important enough to be dealbreakers, like smoking, drinking, gambling, dishonesty or stupidity, each couple is different."   

I am not surprised he has not taken that issue up with you.....  selective b reading i believe its called .

Rumark, you should live in Chang Rai and then you can meet the village mayor.. What a wonderful sincere person he is ..

[rumak]

2 minutes ago, kevvy said:

Rumark, you should live in Chang Rai and then you can meet the village mayor.. What a wonderful sincere person he is ..

I lived in Chiang Rai long before he arrived.  My daughter was born there 30 years ago.  I am happy that he has filled the void since i left.....  

[Jane Dough]

I would have only ever heard it used or used it facetiously or as a joke. I've used the phrase "phua farang" similarly for comic effect. In my relationships - conducted almost entirely in the Thai language - we wouldn't take such things seriously. The word farang is not really used in my circles except in an amusing way.

 

Rooster. 

 

 

[villagefarang]

I hear farang terms use here in Chiang Rai and I have also heard them overseas where Thais live.  I don't remember ever hearing these terms used by Bangkok friends, however.

 

In the village, farang is sometimes used as a form of shorthand between two Thais when referring to me.  When speaking directly to me they use my name, if they know it, but they may not be certain if another person knows my name.

Edited April 7, 2019 by villagefarang

[Neeranam]

33 minutes ago, Pharoticus said:

RE: the ability to be a good mother

 

You've nailed it. That's all it comes to.

 

If you get divorced [and we all do], you'll always respect your ex if she's a good mother. And that'll lay the foundations for responsible co-parenting. 

I really see no point in getting married if you don't have kids.

[kevvy]

9 minutes ago, rumak said:

I lived in Chiang Rai long before he arrived.  My daughter was born there 30 years ago.  I am happy that he has filled the void since i left.....  

Do not tell me you have been here for more than 40 years  , and lived in a home with a lovely view.

 

[thequietman]

The honest answer is that as I and my wife get older, we start to not give a shit what other people think here in Thailand. She never really did care ( but cared a little) but now, it's a case of f@@k them.

 

I asked her once when she did worry about what everyone though about her and us, 'If we were broke tomorrow, which, if any, would come to our door and offer some financial or help otherwise.'

 

She thought for a moment and couldn't really give me a definitive answer. I seen by her eyes that she really understood what I mean't and she changed after that. ( for the good)

 

So, to answer your question, I or my wife could care less about the term 'mia farang' and if she did, she really would give them a piece of her mind. Either way, we just don't care.

 

And neither should you! :) take care.

[rumak]

2 hours ago, kevvy said:

Do not tell me you have been here for more than 40 years  , and lived in a home with a lovely view.

 

haha   he is a gem.  Nothing quite so grandoise in my profile.  I am just an old bull "out in the pasture".

no bellows or bs......just eatin the grass  

[Pharoticus]

2 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I really see no point in getting married if you don't have kids.

I wonder if you've mistyped that.

 

Did you mean so say:

 

I really see no point in getting married if you don't intend to have kids

 

If it's your first marriage, yes. You're right. A first marriage is only a marriage if it creates and/or raises children. I say "raises" because some couples are infertile and adopt. 

 

But things are different for middle-aged divorcees who re-marry. Children might not be on the agenda, so it's more a case of step-parenting.

 

Either way, a marriage without children isn't a proper marriage. And I would never date a middle-aged divorcee without children. Imagine how much she's missed out on life. I'd be very reluctant to let her near my own kids. 

   

 

 

 

[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, Pharoticus said:

I wonder if you've mistyped that.

 

Did you mean so say:

 

I really see no point in getting married if you don't intend to have kids

 

If it's your first marriage, yes. You're right. A first marriage is only a marriage if it creates and/or raises children. I say "raises" because some couples are infertile and adopt. 

 

But things are different for middle-aged divorcees who re-marry. Children might not be on the agenda, so it's more a case of step-parenting.

 

Either way, a marriage without children isn't a proper marriage. And I would never date a middle-aged divorcee without children. Imagine how much she's missed out on life. I'd be very reluctant to let her near my own kids. 

   

 

 

 

Yes, I meant what you wrote.

 

Agreed.

[GalaxyMan]

8 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I am more curious about the social situation where this bargirl treatment arises and what does this treatment specifically entail.

It only happens when we go out to a local-type of restaurant or bar outside of our normal area where we are known. She says that they talk down to her, treat her with contempt in the way that they speak, make it clear what they think of her. She always refuses to allow me to leave a tip in these type of places. We've learned to spot it early on and not order, just leave and find someplace else where they aren't so rude.

[GalaxyMan]

4 hours ago, Pharoticus said:

A first marriage is only a marriage if it creates and/or raises children. Either way, a marriage without children isn't a proper marriage.

What unutterable nonsense. ????

[user343434]

my wife responded to me that she was never called this in her Village because she doesn't like uncomfortable shoes and clothes, bringing herself into a risk to get robbed showing wealth by meaning show gold or jewelry or playing "madame"

Further she mentioned that I am only 10 years older, in Thailand a common age gap between wife and husband so we would not be falling under the from her so called 18/80 constellation.

 

Another point might be in her opinion, that in our family nobody is allowed to call me Farang.

I am Lung and when Nephews and Nieces coming from Isaan to try earning some better income in Pattaya (no bars as I go ballistic then) I find it as a matter of course that they live with us in the spare rooms of our house.

 

Edited April 7, 2019 by See Will

[Tomahawk21]

11 hours ago, villagefarang said:

If you said 30 or 40 years ago I would probably agree with you, that it was hard to meet women outside of the prostitution environment.  I knew many girls who would come over to the apartment but didn’t really want to be seen in public with me.  That way they could have a secret life and maintain their good reputation with friends and family.

 

I met my wife 22 years ago so missed out completely on the online hookup scene but as I said earlier I have never really been drawn to women who target Farangs.  I don’t trust any of them.

 

While I can see using the internet for porn I can't get my head around people using it to find love.

While I can see using the internet for porn I can't get my head around people using it to find love.

 

i would goes as far as to say most people around the world meet some how over the internet.  how did you meet your wife then ?

[roo860]

It only happens when we go out to a local-type of restaurant or bar outside of our normal area where we are known. She says that they talk down to her, treat her with contempt in the way that they speak, make it clear what they think of her. She always refuses to allow me to leave a tip in these type of places. We've learned to spot it early on and not order, just leave and find someplace else where they aren't so rude.

I hope she doesn't sit there and take that shit, my wife would ream them another one.

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[Tomahawk21]

11 minutes ago, roo860 said:

I hope she doesn't sit there and take that shit, my wife would ream them another one.

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We've learned to spot it early on and not order, just leave and find someplace else where they aren't so rude.

[Tomahawk21]

2 hours ago, GalaxyMan said:

It only happens when we go out to a local-type of restaurant or bar outside of our normal area where we are known. She says that they talk down to her, treat her with contempt in the way that they speak, make it clear what they think of her. She always refuses to allow me to leave a tip in these type of places. We've learned to spot it early on and not order, just leave and find someplace else where they aren't so rude.

i think theirs a lot of jealousy with Thai women that see your wife with you cos they know she is having a better life with you and their either with a thai man or single and want what your wife has.