U.S. mayors decry Trump sanctuary city threat, 'prepared to welcome' migrants

[elmrfudd]

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

You're sitll not assimilating information properly, are you? The source I cited said 50-75 percent paid taxes. So the quote you liked proved exactly nothing.

Except that you're a big fan of truthiness.

you really do have to get a life

[elmrfudd]

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

 

What did the "C" indicate?

8 minutes ago, Chi Flyer said:

To understand Trump's mode of thought, one needs to look a little at his history.

 

• Fred Trump (his dad) was arrested for fighting on the side of the KKK at a KKK rally in NY during the 1930s. This was the way of life that Donnie Dumb Ass (DDA) grew up with.
• When caught writing the letter "C" on apartment applications that were denied, DDA hired Roy Cohen as his lawyer. Roy had been a leading attorney for the McCarthy Red Purge during the 1950s. This Purge persecuted homosexuals. Roy died of AIDS going to the grave saying he did not have it.
• Roy taught DDA to deny everything and stay on the attack.
• A patch was added to the DC AIDS victim blanket for Roy Cohen. It said -> "Roy Cohen, bully, liar, victim".
• Trump Championed his relationship with Cohen for decades, but never speaks of him anymore.
• I think a WWE personality makes a piss poor international leader.

 

This list does not even begin to mention the last few years of General Bone Spurs.

 

What did the "C" indicate?

 

crazy conspiracy?

[bristolboy]

15 minutes ago, elmrfudd said:

you really do have to get a life

When you got nothing, make it personal.

[lannarebirth]

22 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

What did the "C" indicate?

 

I'm going to raise a hypothetical in order to ask a question of the board. I'm going to assume (rightly or wrongly) that the "C" stands for colored, as in colored people, and was used to discriminate against would be tenants.

 

Don't know if that's true, but that's not the question. My question is, being called a "colored person" is considered a racial slur I believe, but being called "a person of color" is considered politically correct. Funny, huh?

[mokwit]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Pure genius. Presumably when SF, Chicago and the other sanctuary cities are inundated with 10s of millions of illegals the inhabitants of said cities will quickly come to embrace Trumps border policies. 

The leafy suburb Liberal enthusiasm for mass undocumented immigration ends when they run out of other people's neighbourhoods.

 

Put them in the virtue signalling  liberal neighbourhoods. There must be spare bedrooms in Bel air and Beverley hills. Maybe Clooney and Angelina Joley can help out with some spare rooms? (yes I know most are decent people looking fort a better life), I just can't stand NIMBY virtue signalers.

 

Liberals went from opposing immigration to championing it as a result of the decline of the living standards of the US middle class that used to vote for them - needed to import a whole new voter base. Same in UK

Edited April 13, 2019 by mokwit

[mikebike]

4 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I can't even believe that anybody would even say anything otherwise. 

Mar-a-lago paid their illegals on the payroll... can't believe 45 wasn't bright enough to pay cash...  ????????????

[JustAnotherHun]

If you want to see what`s happening if you don`t protect your borders, just have a look at Germany or Sweden,

[mokwit]

8 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:

If you want to see what`s happening if you don`t protect your borders, just have a look at Germany or Sweden,

Depends where in these countries you look. If you look in the leafy suburbs where the politicians live you wouldn't think there had been any immigration. No nice young men from Afghanistan or the Mahgreb at their daughters school.

Edited April 13, 2019 by mokwit

[farcanell]

7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

California on any given day is one step away from bankruptcy. They claim to have some money saved but one wildfire or one quake they are in deep crap.

Mmm.... if calli pays federal tax, it would be the entire nation that suffers.... and not from the lack of incoming tax, but from bailouts to help suffering Americans.... your post is ludicrous.

[Shaunduhpostman]

6 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

How do you suppose that somebody works and avoids having his employer withhold payroll taxes?

Exactly. And therein is the white elephant in the room, somebody is employing the illegal immigrants. Is this ever an issue, are people up in arms about employers who give illegals work? Of course not, when was the last time you read anything about that? When was the last time Trump ever said anything about that if ever? There's something not right with that either, when the basic situation Trump and many others decry is clearly a case of collusion between US employers and illegal immigrants. If you want to freak out about  illegal immigration which stats show has been on the decline for decades and you are still not happy, go after more than 50% of the problem ie, that someone is employing these people and providing at least half of the motive for people to come over to the US illegally. If indeed you are actually serious about solving the problem which I would wager they are not then why not pillory on national television, the way you do refugees and immigrants, major league business people who are employing probably tens of thousands of illegal workers.

 

Among other things that show this is a Trump/media  manufactured problem, the Pew study analyzed data provided by the US Census that showed the numbers of illegal immigrants peaked in 2007 at 12.2 million and as of 2016 was down to 10.7. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/us/illegal-immigrants-population-study.html

 

The focus and animus directed at "illegal" immigrants is in lieu of scores other more important reasons that people's quality of life has been seriously eroded in the US. What problem is solved by so-called dumping immigrants on asylum cities? Is it just something to do to make you happy? Trump's unwillingness to look at practical solutions and real problems is on full display with this latest chapter of Build the Wall. To take one of many cherries you could pick criticizing the anti-immigrant sentiment, why is it that people don't want to hoot and holler about American corporations that have left American workers high and dry by relocating to other countries and a government that never made effective plans to deal with that exodus let alone the present situation where automation of jobs by algorithms and computers will replace scores of other US workers? How mysterious. Isn't the problem that people feel they are being cheated out of jobs and income by immigrants? So, the problem is your income and prosperity not the immigrants. It shouldn't be news to anyone that the US is all about immigrants since England, Spain and France began the colonization and conquest process nearly 500 years ago. The focus is misplaced at this point and Trump and his followers are single mindedly focused on the presence of illegal migrants being and coming to the US. You can't stop illegal immigrants from coming. They were coming here before you did, obviously, so I don't think anything you do will stop it any time soon. The problem is people's prosperity and future is being destroyed. Why not look at how the government and the system as a whole erodes people's prosperity and find solutions to those problems and elect people who are serious about solving the actual problems as opposed to blaming and theatrics around issues that are arguably not the central cause of the problem. You can go on and on about how morally, intellectually and economically bankrupt this whole anti-immigrant hysteria is.

 

 

[Baerboxer]

9 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Blah, blah, blah...the Dems will not help ease the flood of illegal migrants at the border...sanctuary cities defy the law and either harbor or fail to release to ICE detained criminals...

 

Good...you want to disrupt this country...you deal with the mass of unvetted people who need immediate food, shelter, medical attention and processed...????  

 

It seems strange that we have elected officials stating they will defy the law and welcome illegal, note the word illegal, immigrants and make them feel welcome.

 

Isn't aiding and harboring a criminal a crime in the US? Or deliberately obstructing the law?

 

Classic example of the left showing how they only ever want to apply laws when it suits them politically.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

It seems strange that we have elected officials stating they will defy the law and welcome illegal, note the word illegal, immigrants and make them feel welcome.

 

Isn't aiding and harboring a criminal a crime in the US? Or deliberately obstructing the law?

 

Classic example of the left showing how they only ever want to apply laws when it suits them politically.

Isn't it strange that it's a crime to knowingly hire undocumented aliens and yet almost nothing is being done to prosecute those people who do? Could it be because the agricultural section of the economy votes Republican? Did you know that Trump's golf club in New Jersey recently fired a slew of workers who were undocumented aliens? Do you know how many executives there have been prosecuted? Somewhere south of 1.

And for your information, sanctuary cities are not violating the law by not aiding ICE.

[mokwit]

In the UK the Liberals say that high immigrant density causes lower house prices!!!! - they don't tell you why.

[Longcut]

5 hours ago, Chi Flyer said:

To understand Trump's mode of thought, one needs to look a little at his history.

 

• Fred Trump (his dad) was arrested for fighting on the side of the KKK at a KKK rally in NY during the 1930s. This was the way of life that Donnie Dumb Ass (DDA) grew up with.
• When caught writing the letter "C" on apartment applications that were denied, DDA hired Roy Cohen as his lawyer. Roy had been a leading attorney for the McCarthy Red Purge during the 1950s. This Purge persecuted homosexuals. Roy died of AIDS going to the grave saying he did not have it.
• Roy taught DDA to deny everything and stay on the attack.
• A patch was added to the DC AIDS victim blanket for Roy Cohen. It said -> "Roy Cohen, bully, liar, victim".
• Trump Championed his relationship with Cohen for decades, but never speaks of him anymore.
• I think a WWE personality makes a piss poor international leader.

 

This list does not even begin to mention the last few years of General Bone Spurs.

So you are mentioning something that happened in 1927? Why would anyone care?

[sqwakvfr]

This is actually a Win Win for both sides.  No more family separations, free food, drivers license, free housing at motels and hotels and free medical care. The best part is ICE is not welcome.  I grew up in LA County and if you want to see the 3td world then go to the Emergency Room at County USC Hospital in East LAIespecially on a weekend). The last time I took suspect there was more than 10 years ago and I felt like I was in a foreign country.  It is time for people like Mayor “Yoga Pants” Garcetti(this is a nickname given to him by the hosts of a radio talk show) to put up or shut up.  

[howbri]

Trump is playing the law breaking liberals like a broken fiddle. Their outrage will increase with illegals living next door. Build the <deleted> wall Donald. BUILD THE WALL.

[bristolboy]

These were unaccompanied minors. And as the sign shows, they were males 16-17 years old. Some might consider that slightly different from the Trump administrations zero tolerance policy where even toddlers were routinely separated from their parents. And to make it worse, the Trump administraion made little effort to keep track of where these children were so as to be able to reunite them with their parents. Even today there are potentially thousands of children still separated:

 

U.S. gov't says it could take two years to identify families separated at border

 

It could take the U.S. government up to two years to identify potentially thousands of additional children separated from their parents by the authorities at the southern border, the government said in a court filing.

The filing late on Friday outlined for the first time the Trump administration's plan for identifying which family members might have been separated by assessing thousands of records using a combination of data analysis, statistical science, and manual review.

https://japantoday.com/category/world/u.s.-government-says-it-could-take-two-years-to-identify-families-separated-at-border

Edited April 13, 2019 by Scott
Nonsense meme edited out

[Tug]

9 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Care to expand how Donald caused thousands of people to illegally cross?

No really. I really would like to know.

Sure dr g Donald dident (cause) thousands of people to claim  asylum but his unwillingness to negotiate last Easter when he had his best shot did we are now seeing the result of his incompetence 

Edited April 13, 2019 by Tug

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.  

 

[mikebike]

23 hours ago, howbri said:

Trump is playing the law breaking liberals like a broken fiddle. Their outrage will increase with illegals living next door. Build the <deleted> wall Donald. BUILD THE WALL.

I can see it would outrage you. Why do you think "liberals" would be outraged?

[joecoolfrog]

23 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Blah, blah, blah...the Dems will not help ease the flood of illegal migrants at the border...sanctuary cities defy the law and either harbor or fail to release to ICE detained criminals...

 

Good...you want to disrupt this country...you deal with the mass of unvetted people who need immediate food, shelter, medical attention and processed...????  

It was just another empty Trump threat , amazing what you people accept without question. You probably still dont realise that ' build the wall ' was simply a metaphor ,hilarious really .

[Puchaiyank]

8 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

It was just another empty Trump threat , amazing what you people accept without question. You probably still dont realise that ' build the wall ' was simply a metaphor ,hilarious really .

"You people"...you mean the hard working, family oriented, hunting, fishing, WalMart people?  As apposed to the fashionable, artsy, fine wine, sensitive, girly boys?  Your side has lost every attempt to defeat this President while he goes about the business of "Making America Great Again"!  Get over it...get use to it...????

[elmrfudd]

5 hours ago, mikebike said:

Yep. Why would anyone care about history, context, and nuance. Perfect reply in the age of stupidity. 

yeah, history like the democratic party being the party of the KKK, jim crow, segregation, murderous Ted Kennedy, Senator Byrd.

 

history, context, and the ever popular liberal "nuance" like that you mean?

[Tug]

Why Elmer such bile what a hater lol

[elmrfudd]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Why Elmer such bile what a hater lol

Hater? 

How so precisely? Because I disagree with the liberal progressive hive? Or perhaps the phony narrative they try to make people believe? 

Edited April 14, 2019 by elmrfudd

[elmrfudd]

11 minutes ago, Chi Flyer said:

No I am not joking. She is an accomplished journalist, whereas your references seem to be FB idiots. Offense intended.

She is not an accomplished journalist in any sense of the word. 

She is bat sh*t crazy peddling ridiculous theories. 

She is an opinion show host. And a complete emotionally unhinged idiot. 

[Tug]

3 minutes ago, elmrfudd said:

She is not an accomplished journalist in any sense of the word. 

She is bat sh*t crazy peddling ridiculous theories. 

She is an opinion show host. And a complete emotionally unhinged idiot. 

Oh boy o boy lol in your opinion such bile and you are the one who always calls others haters 

[Tug]

You are funney

[xylophone]

[bristolboy]

Trump Demonizes Migrants as He Profits From Them

If DHS won’t probe how the president's properties rely on undocumented workers, Congress should.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-12/trump-demonizes-migrants-trump-organization-profits-from-them