Trump tax returns from 1985 to 1994 show $1 billion in losses - New York Times

[Skeptic7]

He's certainly been a failure at most of his endeavors and possibly one of the worst businessmen ever. That said, he is...without a doubt...the world's greatest con-man ever! # 1 

[Jingthing]

32 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

He's certainly been a failure at most of his endeavors and possibly one of the worst businessmen ever. That said, he is...without a doubt...the world's greatest con-man ever! # 1 

Yep. Greatest con man, grifter and internet troll.

Not too shabby at being a narcissist, insult artist and propagandist as well. 

Not my original line but still good -- if you don't know by now that "trump" is a con man, then you're one of his MARKS. 

[Skeptic7]

3 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yep. Greatest con man, grifter and internet troll.

Not too shabby at being a narcissist, insult artist and propagandist as well. 

Not my original line but still good -- if you don't know by now that "trump" is a con man, then you're one of his MARKS. 

It's amazing how many people are wooed by this verbally challenged moron and his incessant horseshit. Not you, of course. He's a spoiled daddy's boy FAILURE. None of this is new...nor should it be a surprise to anyone familiar with this con-man extraordinaire. (or anyone with Google) I worked for Eastern Airlines when he bought the Eastern Shuttle in 1989. Trump Shuttle sent me an application. My advice to my colleagues 30 years ago was...wouldn't ever work for that "effin" slimeball. ????

[Jack100]

So instead of reading " The Art Of the Deal ' I should have been reading his next book " The Art of the  Non Tax Payers Steal" !

[Tug]

What truly amazes me is how people still support this guy,it’s not only the financial conn but the attacks on our governments institutions allies children pows gold star family’s and the crimes just boggles my mind

[usviphotography]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

What truly amazes me is how people still support this guy,it’s not only the financial conn but the attacks on our governments institutions allies children pows gold star family’s and the crimes just boggles my mind

What financial con? He was a real estate speculator and developer and like most speculators his career has ups and downs (Warren Buffet has lost over 3.5 billion *in a single day* on more than one occasion). To go from a -900 million to a nearly a billion is actually a lot more impressive than going from 100 million to a billion. Probably why Trump himself wrote a book about this period of his life in which he tooted his own horn about his remarkable comeback. Trump is the Tiger Woods of Real Estate. He's been at the top, went all the way down to the bottom, and back again. 

[Opl]

" Trump was able to avoid paying any income tax for eight of the ten years between 1985 and 1994. In light of this revelation, one of Trump’s old tweets looks particularly humiliating for him:

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HALF of Americans don't pay income tax despite crippling govt debt...http://plu.gd/qLa 

 

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[usviphotography]

15 minutes ago, Opl said:

" Trump was able to avoid paying any income tax for eight of the ten years between 1985 and 1994. In light of this revelation, one of Trump’s old tweets looks particularly humiliating for him:

 

Why would that be "humiliating"? Trump is a businessman, not a chump, and has always been quite upfront about taking every advantage that the law allows him. Part of the reason he won is because he was the first member of "the elite" to tear the curtain down on the scams and cons the elites use to screw over the masses. Again, it is like you guys have been hanging out in some bizarre alternative world and somehow missed Donald Trump's nearly four decades of highly publicized life in the public sphere. 

 

She tells a story—which may also feel familiar at this point—about walking down Fifth Avenue with her father around the time of his divorce from her mother, when Ivanka was 9 or 10 years old. They saw a homeless man sitting outside Trump Tower. “I remember my father pointing to him and saying ‘You know, that guy has 8 billion dollars more than me,’ because he was in such extreme debt at that point,” she recalls. “It makes me all the more proud of my parents, that they got through that.”

 https://slate.com/culture/2017/01/the-2003-documentary-born-rich-has-a-lot-to-tell-us-about-ivanka-trump.html

 

Trump himself wrote a book about his time of troubles and his remarkable journey back to the top called "The Art of the Comeback" which was published back in 1997. 

[OtinPattaya]

Let's subject the rest of our congress people to the same scrutiny as the left is hellbent on doing with the president and see what we come up with. Better yet, let's do the same with the Clintons. All you sneering blowhards who bash on Trump are a bunch of hypocrites. I could give two sh!ts whether Trump is a good or bad businessman. I only care whether he is leading this country in the right direction. The rest of the West can enjoy a future of doomed socialistic, politically-correct, welfare-mongering mediocrity, which Europe is determined to pursue to its own inevitable demise. I'd rather hitch my wagon to Trump despite all his many warts. 

[Credo]

5 minutes ago, OtinPattaya said:

Let's subject the rest of our congress people to the same scrutiny as the left is hellbent on doing with the president and see what we come up with. Better yet, let's do the same with the Clintons. All you sneering blowhards who bash on Trump are a bunch of hypocrites. I could give two sh!ts whether Trump is a good or bad businessman. I only care whether he is leading this country in the right direction. The rest of the West can enjoy a future of doomed socialistic, politically-correct, welfare-mongering mediocrity, which Europe is determined to pursue to its own inevitable demise. I'd rather hitch my wagon to Trump despite all his many warts. 

The Clinton's tax records have been publicly available for a very long time.   So have many other politicians.   

[Opl]

27 minutes ago, usviphotography said:

Why would that be "humiliating"? Trump is a businessman, not a chump, and has always been quite upfront about taking every advantage that the law allows him. Part of the reason he won is because he was the first member of "the elite" to tear the curtain down on the scams and cons the elites use to screw over the masses. Again, it is like you guys have been hanging out in some bizarre alternative world and somehow missed Donald Trump's nearly four decades of highly publicized life in the public sphere. 

 

She tells a story—which may also feel familiar at this point—about walking down Fifth Avenue with her father around the time of his divorce from her mother, when Ivanka was 9 or 10 years old. They saw a homeless man sitting outside Trump Tower. “I remember my father pointing to him and saying ‘You know, that guy has 8 billion dollars more than me,’ because he was in such extreme debt at that point,” she recalls. “It makes me all the more proud of my parents, that they got through that.”

 https://slate.com/culture/2017/01/the-2003-documentary-born-rich-has-a-lot-to-tell-us-about-ivanka-trump.html

 

Trump himself wrote a book about his time of troubles and his remarkable journey back to the top called "The Art of the Comeback" which was published back in 1997. 

Why Trump is a " winner":

[OtinPattaya]

22 minutes ago, Credo said:

The Clinton's tax records have been publicly available for a very long time.   So have many other politicians.   

So you're saying there is nothing shady regarding the practices of the Clinton Foundation? Nothing worth investigating there? And how about Biden and Son's ties with the Russians? Or Hilary's? People pick and choose who is worthy of their indignation based purely on their own biases. If you don't like Trump vote him out of office--in other words, in time-honored fashion. People can't accept that he was elected, so they are groping in the dark for every other conceivable pretext to oust him. 

Edited May 9, 2019 by OtinPattaya

[Credo]

2 minutes ago, OtinPattaya said:

So you're saying there is nothing shady regarding the practices of the Clinton Foundation? 

Yup.   But this isn't about the Clinton's.   You can check the taxes and the audits of any charitable foundation quite easily.   The Clinton Foundation has the highest rating as a foundation by an independent agency that monitors them.

 

Trump Foundation, on the other hand was closed by the State of New York, just in case you were going to make a comparison.   

[OtinPattaya]

11 minutes ago, Credo said:

Yup.   But this isn't about the Clinton's.   You can check the taxes and the audits of any charitable foundation quite easily.   The Clinton Foundation has the highest rating as a foundation by an independent agency that monitors them.

 

Trump Foundation, on the other hand was closed by the State of New York, just in case you were going to make a comparison.   

Of course it's not about the Clintons. Because Hilary lost and Trump won. There's a very handy method, codified in America since its inception, of evicting a president from office. It's called a "vote." No need for 25 million worth of tax-payer funded investigations that yield nothing actionable. You show up at the polls, fill out a form, and there you are. 

Edited May 9, 2019 by OtinPattaya

[Tug]

1 hour ago, OtinPattaya said:

Of course it's not about the Clintons. Because Hilary lost and Trump won. There's a very handy method, codified in America since its inception, of evicting a president from office. It's called a "vote." No need for 25 million worth of tax-payer funded investigations that yield nothing actionable. You show up at the polls, fill out a form, and there you are. 

Yeild nothing?ho ho ho that’s really funney the only reason Donald isent in the slammer is because he is potus the Republican Congress is to terrified to act that’s it and believe me we all are waiting for 2020

[Jingthing]

A new nickname for 45 that will stick?

 

 

[Cryingdick]

I remember when I was.a kid and reading Time magazine or seeing the headlines about Trump going bankrupt and always coming back. He was the medias darling back then and they framed the stories like he was the ultimate example of the American Dream.

[Tug]

7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I remember when I was.a kid and reading Time magazine or seeing the headlines about Trump going bankrupt and always coming back. He was the medias darling back then and they framed the stories like he was the ultimate example of the American Dream.

You do know most of that was bought I also rember back in the day he was thought of as a sleaze ball the post just above yours has his new handle it fitts

[bristolboy]

6 hours ago, usviphotography said:

Why would that be "humiliating"? Trump is a businessman, not a chump, and has always been quite upfront about taking every advantage that the law allows him. Part of the reason he won is because he was the first member of "the elite" to tear the curtain down on the scams and cons the elites use to screw over the masses. Again, it is like you guys have been hanging out in some bizarre alternative world and somehow missed Donald Trump's nearly four decades of highly publicized life in the public sphere. 

 

She tells a story—which may also feel familiar at this point—about walking down Fifth Avenue with her father around the time of his divorce from her mother, when Ivanka was 9 or 10 years old. They saw a homeless man sitting outside Trump Tower. “I remember my father pointing to him and saying ‘You know, that guy has 8 billion dollars more than me,’ because he was in such extreme debt at that point,” she recalls. “It makes me all the more proud of my parents, that they got through that.”

 https://slate.com/culture/2017/01/the-2003-documentary-born-rich-has-a-lot-to-tell-us-about-ivanka-trump.html

 

Trump himself wrote a book about his time of troubles and his remarkable journey back to the top called "The Art of the Comeback" which was published back in 1997. 

In which he somehow failed to mention that he got hundreds of millions of dollars from his father.

[keemapoot]

5 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I remember when I was.a kid and reading Time magazine or seeing the headlines about Trump going bankrupt and always coming back. He was the medias darling back then and they framed the stories like he was the ultimate example of the American Dream.

Trump's never been anybody's darling. He has intentionally and pointedly inserted himself into the media back when he was failing as a deflection of his poor business ability, had ghost books written which he claimed credit for, and then continued his media campaign with his reality show and later on Twitter. Every single businessman I know from NY (and I know a lot of them) has zero respect for this hyper version of PT Barnum. Yes, I admit he has a gift for PR and self-promotion, and is an opportunist as he showed by winning the 2016 election. He latched onto a disenfranchised portion of the electorate he could consolidate and control, and later the GOP establishment fell into line to keep things in GOP hands. Trump is a waste of space. Always has been.

 

The only American dream he has lived is having a rich daddy. Sure, that's everybody's American dream. 

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Tug said:

You do know most of that was bought I also rember back in the day he was thought of as a sleaze ball the post just above yours has his new handle it fitts

He was friends of the Clintons...

[Tug]

1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:

He was friends of the Clintons...

He was trying to use the clitions

[utalkin2me]

5 hours ago, OtinPattaya said:

Of course it's not about the Clintons. Because Hilary lost and Trump won. There's a very handy method, codified in America since its inception, of evicting a president from office. It's called a "vote." No need for 25 million worth of tax-payer funded investigations that yield nothing actionable. You show up at the polls, fill out a form, and there you are. 

The American people already did vote against him as a whole. 

Edited May 10, 2019 by utalkin2me

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, utalkin2me said:

The American people already did vote him out as a whole. 

 

It's a constitutional republic made up of states. Stop crying.

[Thakkar]

9 hours ago, usviphotography said:

What financial con? He was a real estate speculator and developer and like most speculators his career has ups and downs (Warren Buffet has lost over 3.5 billion *in a single day* on more than one occasion). To go from a -900 million to a nearly a billion is actually a lot more impressive than going from 100 million to a billion. Probably why Trump himself wrote a book about this period of his life in which he tooted his own horn about his remarkable comeback. Trump is the Tiger Woods of Real Estate. He's been at the top, went all the way down to the bottom, and back again. 

 

Tiger has way bigger hands, actual skills that doesn’t involve lying, stiffing (except when it involves Waffle House Hostess), & conning. Also, Tiger has “only” cheated on one wife.

[bristolboy]

9 hours ago, usviphotography said:

What financial con? He was a real estate speculator and developer and like most speculators his career has ups and downs (Warren Buffet has lost over 3.5 billion *in a single day* on more than one occasion). To go from a -900 million to a nearly a billion is actually a lot more impressive than going from 100 million to a billion. Probably why Trump himself wrote a book about this period of his life in which he tooted his own horn about his remarkable comeback. Trump is the Tiger Woods of Real Estate. He's been at the top, went all the way down to the bottom, and back again. 

And just like Trump, Warren Buffet had his daddy's money to bail him out time and again?

[mtls2005]

51 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

I remember when I was.a kid and reading Time magazine or seeing the headlines about Trump going bankrupt and always coming back. He was the medias darling back then and they framed the stories like he was the ultimate example of the American Dream.

 

This is when he had "John Barron" as his "publicist...

 

 

[keemapoot]

11 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And just like Trump, Warren Buffet had his daddy's money to bail him out time and again?

And, just like buffet, the definition of the American dream is self-made men & women embodied in these types of people, not scumbags like Trump: Elon Musk, Oprah Winfrey, Mark Cuban, and the list goes on and on and on...and Trump is most definitely not on this list.

[bristolboy]

2 minutes ago, keemapoot said:

And, just like buffet, the definition of the American dream is self-made men & women embodied in these types of people, not scumbags like Trump: Elon Musk, Oprah Winfrey, Mark Cuban, and the list goes on and on and on...and Trump is most definitely not on this list.

Given the extremes the Republicans have gone to to protect inheritances. I'd say their idea of the American Dream is to be born rich.

[Berkshire]

26 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

*There are three types of Trump supporters: billionaires,  idiots or racists. For anyone who’s a supporter, ask yourself: Which are you?

 

555555555....probably pretty accurate.  I'll concede that the Trump supporters I've met are not billionaires.