Democrats ask Trump to rethink U.S. Independence Day speech as his plans proceed apace

[webfact]

Democrats ask Trump to rethink U.S. Independence Day speech as his plans proceed apace

By Susan Cornwell

 

FILE PHOTO - U.S President Donald Trump delivers a speech during the commemoration ceremony for the 75th anniversary of D-Day at the American cemetery of Colleville-sur-Mer in Normandy, France, June 6, 2019. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats in the U.S. Congress have asked President Donald Trump to reconsider plans for a speech at the Lincoln Memorial during annual Independence Day celebrations, saying it could turn a traditionally non-partisan event into a campaign rally.

 

Trump, a Republican, announced on Twitter in February that he would host an event including fireworks on the Fourth of July holiday in Washington and include "an address by your favourite President, me!"

 

But the Democrats wrote to Trump on Thursday asking him to consider "an earlier time or alternative location for your remarks." They said they wanted to preserve the tradition of a large, apolitical gathering on Washington's National Mall, a landscaped park between the Lincoln Memorial and the U.S. Capitol.

Asked about the concerns expressed in the letter, a White House spokesman said plans for the holiday continued apace.

 

"President Trump loves America and wants to help all Americans celebrate our Nation’s Independence on July 4. The White House, along with the National Park Service and the Department of Interior, continue to make preparations for the day’s activities," White House spokesman Judd Deere said.

 

The day-long Independence Day celebration, which usually concludes with a concert of patriotic music at the foot of the U.S. Capitol and a fireworks display, commemorates the Declaration of Independence from Britain by thirteen American colonies in 1776.

 

The celebration "routinely brings tens of thousands of visitors to our nation's capital to join in celebration of America's founding," said the letter to Trump from House of Representatives Majority Leader Steny Hoyer and two other Democrats.

 

"It is therefore, unfortunate that you are considering a conflicting event, which could create the appearance of a televised, partisan campaign rally on the Mall at public expense," the letter said.

 

It said that Trump's plans to attend would add "substantial" costs, and the needed security could severely inhibit access to the celebration for visitors.

 

Hoyer, Representative Raul Grijalva, chairman of the House committee on natural resources and Representative Betty McCollum, chairwoman of the appropriations subcommittee on the interior department, signed the letter.

 

Trump has staged rallies with his supporters throughout his presidency, even though he will not formally announce his bid for re-election in 2020 until June 18. The rallies often feature attacks on Democratic leaders in Congress, former President Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in the 2016 election.

 

Trump, who is at odds with Congress over various Democratic-led investigations of him and his turbulent presidency, also wanted to stage a military parade in Washington last November, but cancelled it because of high costs.

 

(Reporting by Susan Cornwell; additional reporting by Roberta Rampton; editing by Grant McCool)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-06-07

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[Tug]

Just Donald thinking the Fourth of July is about him lol could they just keep him at the adult day care facility so he doesent ruin the fourth for everybody?

 

[dcutman]

The rallies often feature attacks on Democratic leaders in Congress, former President Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in the 2016 election.

 

Attacking the very people that daily call him treasonous and a criminal, and the two that conspired to fuel a Russian collusion narrative by unleashing the FBI,CIA and DNI on his campaign.

GEE go figure.

 

Edited June 6, 2019 by dcutman

[twocatsmac]

The Dems never want to miss the opportunity for a violent protest or to curtail free speech and it sounds like they’re gearing up already.

[wayned]

He will never cancel the speech.  Look at the huge number of people that normally go to the center of DC to watch the 4th of July festivities.  They won't stay away because they don't like Trump and he will turn it into a "campaign rally" and claim that this was the biggest ever rally that any President ever had and his base will eat it all up!

[JAG]

21 minutes ago, wayned said:

He will never cancel the speech.  Look at the huge number of people that normally go to the center of DC to watch the 4th of July festivities.  They won't stay away because they don't like Trump and he will turn it into a "campaign rally" and claim that this was the biggest ever rally that any President ever had and his base will eat it all up!

You mean like the record crowds at his inaugeration?

[Boon Mee]

1 hour ago, twocatsmac said:

The Dems never want to miss the opportunity for a violent protest or to curtail free speech and it sounds like they’re gearing up already.

Got that right 

Anything to thwart anything Trump does or says is just more grist for these Nattering Nabobs of Negativism. 

[wayned]

42 minutes ago, JAG said:

You mean like the record crowds at his inaugeration?

Only the record crowds are going to be there to see the fireworks and listen to the music in front of the capital in addition to indulging from the many offerings from the various food vendors not to here trump degrade the people he thinks has wrong him the week before.

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, dcutman said:

The rallies often feature attacks on Democratic leaders in Congress, former President Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in the 2016 election.

 

Attacking the very people that daily call him treasonous and a criminal, and the two that conspired to fuel a Russian collusion narrative by unleashing the FBI,CIA and DNI on his campaign.

GEE go figure.

 

The point isn't that his rallies, or for that matter, other politicians' rallies are partisan. It's about not turning the 4th of July celebration into a partisan rally. No President has spoken at the event since 1951 for precisely this reason.

[mtls2005]

Been there, done that, July 4, 1970 Nixon tries to re-brand the 4th as Honor America Day, in hopes of generating support for the Invasion of Cambodia.

 

No need for a smoke-in though, recreational/adult use legal in DC.

 

I get that trump is desperate, and running on fumes, but politicizing the 4th is both tacky and un-patriotic, and probably a violation of The Hatch Act. Oh, right all the things that trump is: tacky, unpatriotic and illegal. Nevermind.

 

Let me guess: Kid Rock?

 

 

 

Nixon's July 4 Bash Ended With Tear Gas and Nude Protesters

 

https://www.history.com/news/richard-nixon-honor-america-day-july-4-1970

[mtls2005]

"HOLD THE DATE!"

 

What a maroon.

 

 

 

 

[attrayant]

3 hours ago, wayned said:

He will never cancel the speech.  Look at the huge number of people that normally go to the center of DC to watch the 4th of July festivities.

 

 

And they'll all be pissed off at the closure of the space around the reflecting pool at the Lincoln Memorial by the secret service.

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, Tug said:

Just Donald thinking the Fourth of July is about him lol could they just keep him at the adult day care facility so he doesent ruin the fourth for everybody?

 

 

Or the Democrats wanting to "keep it apolitical" and only allow Democrats!

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Or the Democrats wanting to "keep it apolitical" and only allow Democrats!

Why are you making up things like that?

[Caldera]

While I'd imagine that this moron is still someone's favorite president, as per his tweet, why listen to his address when you can follow his inane ramblings on Twitter every single day? Isn't that enough?

[bendejo]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

saying it could turn a traditionally non-partisan event into a campaign rally

could?

 

What, you're going to the top of Mt. Everest?  It might be could up there, ya think?

 

He only talks about one thing -- himself.  When he talks about anything else, it becomes about him.

 

 

Edited June 7, 2019 by bendejo

[Basil B]

5 hours ago, wayned said:

He will never cancel the speech.  Look at the huge number of people that normally go to the center of DC to watch the 4th of July festivities.  They won't stay away because they don't like Trump and he will turn it into a "campaign rally" and claim that this was the biggest ever rally that any President ever had and his base will eat it all up!

It's called a captive audience...

[Jingthing]

I am deeply offended that this toxic demagogue white nationalist president is hijacking the grand tradition of NONPARTISAN Washington DC 4th of July celebrations!

 

All decent Americans should be against this.

 

BTW, I predict if he goes ahead there may be violent clashes between his fans and his opposition. Over 90 percent of Washington DC residents oppose this president. I think he probably wants there to be violence. He can spin that with his Fox propaganda machine.

 

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[Sir Swagman]

8 hours ago, dcutman said:

The rallies often feature attacks on Democratic leaders in Congress, former President Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in the 2016 election.

 

Attacking the very people that daily call him treasonous and a criminal, and the two that conspired to fuel a Russian collusion narrative by unleashing the FBI,CIA and DNI on his campaign.

GEE go figure.

 

You, and Boon Mee and similar ilk (although I am betting Boon Mee is a troll as I have difficulty believing anyone could be that stupid) allow your belief to override facts, emotion to control reason. Now... that am thinking I should gather a group together promoting such behaviour. I could maybe call it ‘religion’ ...oh wait......

 

[Sir Swagman]

1 hour ago, Basil B said:

It's called a captive audience...

I can’t wait for the day he has a truly captive audience. The ones with him behind bars. Not sure how the trumpsters will deal with the fact that (it seems) at his behest he ‘stole’ hundreds of millions from America in tax evasion alone. The acceptance of other accusations and fairly clear evidence of nefarious wrongdoings have been ok it seems. Wonder about this one?

[Basil B]

4 minutes ago, Sir Swagman said:

I can’t wait for the day he has a truly captive audience. The ones with him behind bars. Not sure how the trumpsters will deal with the fact that (it seems) at his behest he ‘stole’ hundreds of millions from America in tax evasion alone. The acceptance of other accusations and fairly clear evidence of nefarious wrongdoings have been ok it seems. Wonder about this one?

His days are numbered...

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, Basil B said:

His days are numbered...

As far as his days in office, nobody knows. It's more than possible that he could win a second term. He could do that even with only 40 percent of the vote. Horrible to consider, but a real threat.

[Seismic]

9 hours ago, dcutman said:

The rallies often feature attacks on Democratic leaders in Congress, former President Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, whom he defeated in the 2016 election.

 

Attacking the very people that daily call him treasonous and a criminal, and the two that conspired to fuel a Russian collusion narrative by unleashing the FBI,CIA and DNI on his campaign.

GEE go figure.

 

What complete and utter nonsense. Please give one instance where President Obama ever referred to Trump as Treasonous. You may also need to rethink your collusion narrative, it was instigated by Republicans with a republican special prosecutor. Please stop spewing fake news.

[rgraham]

Loos like the dems are already planning to protest independence.

[bristolboy]

22 minutes ago, rgraham said:

Loos like the dems are already planning to protest independence.

I guess that makes sense if you believe that Trump is the Statue of Liberty.

[Jingthing]

Loos like the dems are already planning to protest independence.

That's what he's setting up. There will be protests. There may be violence. Then the Fox "trump" disinformation gaslighting express will paint people not fawning over the emperor with ugly clothes as anti-American.

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[Becker]

8 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Or the Democrats wanting to "keep it apolitical" and only allow Democrats!

Wow,  I guess hyperbole really is your thing. But I do realise that when someone tries to defend the indefensible it's very hard to avoid.

[bristolboy]

8 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Or the Democrats wanting to "keep it apolitical" and only allow Democrats!

Do you understand that since 1951 there has not been a President, Republican or Democrat, speechifying at this event? If that's not the case, can you share with us the true history of the event?

[mtls2005]

Well if anyone can bring a tear to the eye of Daniel Chester French's iconic statue (save for the Minuteman at Old North Bridge in Concord) it's this buffoon.

 

 

[sherwood]

That fella Trump sure is one prize fcukwitt if you don't mind me saying so.

Edited June 7, 2019 by sherwood