rooster59 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Thanathorn confirms his party’s goal remains to change Thailand for the better The Future Forward party aims to transform Thailand into a more livable society, where its people are not divided by hate politics, the military is democratic, with a decentralized bureaucracy and no monopolization by big business. This was the central message from Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit as he gave his vision speech at Thammasat University today (Saturday), on the first anniversary of the founding of the party. Noting that the next battle, to restore the power to the people, will be tougher, and he pleaded for support from the people to push for new ideas in order to put to rest the politics of fear, the politics of yesterday. “Our Future Forward party’s politics are about hope. They said, if the country is without Khun Loong (Gen Prayut), it will collapse. If anyone talks about fear, we should tell them that, if we are afraid, we will never be able to step forward. Their politics is about yesterday, but ours is about tomorrow. Their politics means that we must not mess with their power, but if we don’t mess with it, they will just carry on reaping the benefits,” said Thanathorn. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thanathorn-confirms-his-partys-goal-remains-to-change-thailand-for-the-better/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-06-09 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YetAnother Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, rooster59 said: the military is democratic a democratic military ? non-sensical; what he meant was a military under civilian rule 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, YetAnother said: a democratic military ? non-sensical; what he meant was a military under civilian rule A translation error me thinks... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 Always check your brakes before leaving home now son as the breath of fresh air is bound to be stifled by a general ???? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Talk about a statement of the bleeding obvious. Which politician has ever stated openly that their policy is to change something for the worse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 When Thanathorn is in a position to stack the senate with 250 members of his own, he may stand half a chance! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 29 minutes ago, rooster59 said: Thanathorn confirms his party’s goal remains to change Thailand for the better A very worthy ambition. Problem being the military and the elite want Thailand to remain the same for their own furtherance and enrichment rather than for the benefit of the population in general. But good luck to him anyway. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 Thanathorn is about to become Prayut's worst nightmare. More power to him. I just hope the reverse isn't true. Watch your back Than. Have security check under your car before the key is turned. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasane Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 Thanathorn saying all the right words to keep his base engaged. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 I think Thanathorn is an impressive human being, who towers head and shoulders above virtually all the other 'politicians' in Thailand today. I do believe (at least hope) that one day he will be leader of Thailand. BUT I increasingly note that Thanatorn is EXTREMELY naive. If he really thinks that thugs and criminals are all going to sit down cross-legged with him and sing 'Kumbaya' in loving harmony and unison - he is going to have a rude awakening. Power and liberty are never gifted to the powerless. They are taken. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lujanit Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 How long before Prayut does a Hun Sen and makes any opposition illegal? He did it before with section 44 so he knows it works. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozman52 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Kasane said: Thanathorn saying all the right words to keep his base engaged. That's what politicians do, isn't it? Say the right words; you'd hardly expect him to say it was to change Thailand for the worse. Of course, he's not likely to DO much, just keep saying the right words. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ozman52 said: That's what politicians do, isn't it? Say the right words; you'd hardly expect him to say it was to change Thailand for the worse. Of course, he's not likely to DO much, just keep saying the right words. That's why the junta are so scared of him..........because he's not going to DO much. Why the trumped up charges if the junta thinks he's all talk no action? BTW - the changes he is talking about making are, for a certain minority of Thais, changes for the worse. All depends on your audience doesn't it. PS - pretty piss weak post attacking Thanathorn, guess it's a hard job you've taken on though, arguing against fairness and decency. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 3 hours ago, YetAnother said: a democratic military ? non-sensical; what he meant was a military under civilian rule What he wants is a Thailand where his chosen fellows can do what they want without any interference from other parties and a military doing his bidding. Exactly the same, it seems, as TS & YS want. The man is very rich, now he wants power and if possible, more money. If all rumours about his party are only halftruths he needs to step off his "democratic" high horse. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, hansnl said: What he wants is a Thailand where his chosen fellows can do what they want without any interference from other parties and a military doing his bidding. Exactly the same, it seems, as TS & YS want. The man is very rich, now he wants power and if possible, more money. If all rumours about his party are only halftruths he needs to step off his "democratic" high horse. What he wants is what every developed country has - a military that is subordinate to the elected representatives of the people. Seems like a reasonable ask. What is interesting is you are condemning the man for crimes, he has yet to commit and may never commit whilst at the same time ignoring the fact that the current regime are actually, currently, as we speak, committing the crimes you so detest Thanathorn for (even though he is innocent of the charge). How exactly does your cranium work to allow such inconsistencies to spew out? Edited June 9, 2019 by pornprong 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 I admire the bloke but he has a massive uphill job to do and will have to be watchfull every minute for any terrible 'accident' that could befall him ! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Ozman52 said: That's what politicians do, isn't it? Say the right words; you'd hardly expect him to say it was to change Thailand for the worse. Of course, he's not likely to DO much, just keep saying the right words. As he is a member of the opposition axis he won't be ABLE to do very much since the non-elected senate is at the beck and call of the non MP who is the PM. He will however, be able to do far more than you can for Thailand. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Seems like both sides – if not more than two blocks – wish to do the best for the Thailand, but they don't seem to agree on what the best is...???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 He may want to get a Cambodian passport just in case, and make arrangements for political refugee status as well. He should never go anywhere alone at any time. 1% wants to hold on to their 50% plus of the country. They are not going to give it up. The "election" is proof of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuckBee Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 Thanatorn will be banned from politics before long and FFP could possibly get disbanded . What a cesspit Prayut has founded ! contempt and corruption at the top worse than ever been ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 25 minutes ago, BuckBee said: Thanatorn will be banned from politics before long and FFP could possibly get disbanded . What a cesspit Prayut has founded ! contempt and corruption at the top worse than ever been ... Try as they might, the-so-called-currently-elected-democratic-government would be playing with fire if they attempted to disband either Thanathorn or the FFP. The backlash would be more than they bargained for. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozman52 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, pornprong said: That's why the junta are so scared of him..........because he's not going to DO much. Why the trumped up charges if the junta thinks he's all talk no action? BTW - the changes he is talking about making are, for a certain minority of Thais, changes for the worse. All depends on your audience doesn't it. PS - pretty piss weak post attacking Thanathorn, guess it's a hard job you've taken on though, arguing against fairness and decency. Do grow up. He's a rich boy who bought his way into parliament and thinks he has a right to go straight to the top, and not to fussy about how he gets there. I'll vote for his sanctification after he starts performing miracles. Edited June 9, 2019 by Ozman52 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chama Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Eligius said: I think Thanathorn is an impressive human being, who towers head and shoulders above virtually all the other 'politicians' in Thailand today. I do believe (at least hope) that one day he will be leader of Thailand. BUT I increasingly note that Thanatorn is EXTREMELY naive. If he really thinks that thugs and criminals are all going to sit down cross-legged with him and sing 'Kumbaya' in loving harmony and unison - he is going to have a rude awakening. Power and liberty are never gifted to the powerless. They are taken. Boom! You've done it again Eligius. But how can someone so naive, no matter how progressive and possibly needed, lead a country? Perhaps he will evolve but remain focused on his stated goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted June 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Ozman52 said: Do grow up. He's a rich boy who bought his way into parliament and thinks he has a right to go straight to the top, and not to fussy about how he gets there. I'll vote for his sanctification after he starts performing miracles. Silly me, here I was thinking he got into parliament on the back of 6 million votes from everyday Thais, but no, he's just slipped 500 baht to a random General and he's in - thanks for the heads up. Yeah he's a rich boy, and he could have carried on living the rich boy life without scrutiny or risk to himself, his family or his business interests, yet, he has chosen to enter the fray, risk a hell of a lot in the hopes of bettering the plight of his fellow citizens - what a selfish prick. As for his attitude, perhaps the fact that the election has been so clearly stolen is reason enough for us all to give the man a little latitude. Not sure you're the type of voter Thanathorn is chasing, I think he'd be much happier if the likes of you remained where you belong, in the Genral's camp. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Eligius said: I think Thanathorn is an impressive human being, who towers head and shoulders above virtually all the other 'politicians' in Thailand today. I do believe (at least hope) that one day he will be leader of Thailand. BUT I increasingly note that Thanatorn is EXTREMELY naive. If he really thinks that thugs and criminals are all going to sit down cross-legged with him and sing 'Kumbaya' in loving harmony and unison - he is going to have a rude awakening. Power and liberty are never gifted to the powerless. They are taken. What was Prayuth's justification for the coup? Ending the violence, which of course his own camp was creating and which was dwindling out of existence on its own anyways. Nevertheless, that was the reason given for the coup. So how is Thanathorn to play his hand? Bull at the gate? Us against them in a fight to the death? This would achieve what? Nothing other than creating a pretext for another coup. or, Constructively. Winning new supporters with his sides positives rather than the other sides negatives whilst simultaneously avoiding more lawsuits and court cases for libel, slander and defamation of his opponents. He is clearly not an idiot He doesn't want the "thugs and criminals" to sit with him. He wants those that support a free and democratic Thailand to sit with him to put an end to the "thugs and criminals" Noting that the next battle, to restore the power to the people, will be tougher, and he pleaded for support from the people to push for new ideas in order to put to rest the politics of fear, the politics of yesterday. HIs path forward, the one that avoids jail for him, disbandment for his party and loss of life for his supporters is to build the biggest supporters base possible and get ready for the next election - which will be sooner rather than later, and then win that election by such a margin that no amount of silly buggers from Prayuth can overturn the result. Have patience, it's been 13 years since the 2006, one or two more is not too much to ask..... is it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckBee Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 hours ago, neeray said: Try as they might, the-so-called-currently-elected-democratic-government would be playing with fire if they attempted to disband either Thanathorn or the FFP. The backlash would be more than they bargained for. They will be giving it a go, getting him barred from politics for 10yrs is highly likely probability . I can see defamation cases coming up against him too ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Ozman52 said: Do grow up. He's a rich boy who bought his way into parliament and thinks he has a right to go straight to the top, and not to fussy about how he gets there. I'll vote for his sanctification after he starts performing miracles. Well unless you are Thai, given your avatar and name you most probably are not, it makes no difference to Thailand what you think. Your opinion, mine and everybody elses on TVF has not the remotest interest to the Thai people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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