Non O (Multi Entry) no longer issued at Royal Thai Embassy in London - new financial requirements for Single Entry Tourist Visas (SETV)

[tigerbalm]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

For pensioner (aged 50 or over) : A copy of pension statement if the applicant is a pensioner, or a copy of 1-month bank statement showing your income from pension, or 3-month bank statement of at least £10,000

(Where it says  One of )The requirements for Non-Immigrant Type O (single entry only) from Thai Embassy in London are as follows (SEE ABOVE)

Does that mean £10,000 coming in to your Bank account every month (like an income) 

Or a balance of £10,000 a month for 3 months (like your balance does not drop below £10,000 for 3 months)

Or a average of £10,000 spread out evenly over the 3 months (Like £3333.33 every month)

Regards

TB

[mindfulness]

Have I missed something, just get the single entry non-immigrant 0 visa then apply in Thailand for a multiple entry stamp. 

[mania]

3 minutes ago, tigerbalm said:

Seems a little steep

 

To visit Thailand? More than a little steep ????

[LivinLOS]

15 hours ago, GalaxyMan said:

Have you ever tried to get a Schengen area visa? ???? I'm going through the process right now for my Thai girlfriend so that we can take a trip to Europe. I wish it were as easy as the Thai requirements, which are not the least bit unreasonable. Last I read, the Americans now want access to your social media accounts for the past 5 years to get a tourist visa. You're complaining about Thailand?

Over the years I have obtained schengen area visas for 3 women for at least 10 different trips.. The irish issued one in 30 mins, no bookings or flights and purely the promise I would later buy insurance.. The rest are trivially easy if you simply follow the guidelines.. My wife has a 5 year tourist visa for uk, no reporting, no TM30s, can buy land, etc etc etc.. 

What precisely is hard ??

[cornishcarlos]

We need 20,000 plus wifes and families to march into Bangkok and hand in a petition for change...

If they could get a few, newly elected, MPs onboard even better and now is the time while the changes in government are happening.

Us expats will never influence any changes but 1000s of upset families might have some impact ?

[GalaxyMan]

33 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Over the years I have obtained schengen area visas for 3 women for at least 10 different trips.. The irish issued one in 30 mins, no bookings or flights and purely the promise I would later buy insurance.. The rest are trivially easy if you simply follow the guidelines.. My wife has a 5 year tourist visa for uk, no reporting, no TM30s, can buy land, etc etc etc.. 

What precisely is hard ??

We're going to Portugal, where I lived for many years and for whose government I have zero respect. Not quite as corrupt as Thailand is about the best I can do. I have a Schengen passport and have written a letter of sponsorship, assuming all responsibility for everything. The paperwork is copies of all passports, hers and mine, letters from my bank attesting to my financial wherewithal, copies of all travel reservations, proof of place to stay, proof of insurance (for her), letter from her job stating the particulars of her employment and dates for which she has permission to miss work for the trip, copies of her bank books, copies of any and all deeds for property that she owns. And she needs to travel from Samui to Bangkok for the whole biometric nonsense. Nothing can be done online. All paperwork has to be turned in personally. It's not that it's hard, it's a huge PITA.

 

I understand what they're doing. This is about stopping people from entering and staying to find work, has nothing at all to do with security ala ISIS, et al. And yes, once you're in, you're in and none of the Thai nonsense about reporting like a paroled prisoner. You can do anything but work legally.

 

My point is that getting into Thailand is a piece of cake comparatively, and the 90-day reporting is a PITA, but no big deal. Takes me less than 30 minutes from the time I leave home until I get back. Small price to pay for being allowed to live here.

[dave moir]

It certainly looks like Thailand don't want regular visitors to Thailand! Within a few years there's going to be no westerners visiting Thailand at all. ????

[yogi100]

9 hours ago, VBF said:

My point exactly, as i said earlier. I don't need another SETV for a few months, so i'm going to be monitoring this thread and others and see what transpires. i may well telephone or email the embassy and ask.

Good luck with that. I've never emailed the London Embassy but when you phone 'em it just rings and rings and no one answers.

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Perplexing that the SETV is requiring..

Proof of financial support e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings, sponsorship letter

This is very unspecific as to amounts.

Why are they changing rules for tourists, surely they want them. And anyone planning on over 30 days would feel better having a Visa.

Far as I know, most tourists arrive on visa exempt and stay less than the entire 30 days. 

I like the oft repeated saying, "they just want us to give them money but not arrive".

I'm guessing, but methinks the western tourist on a visa is becoming less and less important as the Chinese take over.

Over my years as a long term "guest", I noticed how much more difficult it was becoming to renew an extension, so now it's just the tourist visa's turn to become harder to obtain.

 

IMO, the good old days when westerners were welcome are over.

Sad, but it was great, and then it wasn't.

 

[yogi100]

3 hours ago, jimn said:

The thread is about multi entry O visa not O-A visa which are totally different.

 

The heading refers to the Non O Multi Entry visa not the O visa ME visa. O and Non O are not the same. 

 

Non O (Multi Entry) no longer issued at Royal Thai Embassy in London

I'm not being smart, I'm as confused as anyone else might be.

[Denim]

10 hours ago, falang1969 said:

If you have a current valid Non-Imm "O" Multi Entry, I am presuming you can still do a border run to Mae Sae (for example) just before it expires, to get the additional 90 days?

Yes. Just back from there yesterday.

No problems on the Thai side but swarms of young Chinese clogging up Burmese immigration applying for some kind of visa. Had to shoulder my way to the front of a long queue to explain I was only doing a turnaround. Had I not done so would have been there over an hour instead of usual 5 minutes..

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

The heading refers to the Non O Multi Entry visa not the O visa ME visa. O and Non O are not the same. 

Non is short for non immigrant. The O means others. Just saying a O visa is not correct.

It could be a non-o or a non-oa or a non-ox visa. Those three visas are completely different.

[glenmohr]

1 hour ago, dave moir said:

It certainly looks like Thailand don't want regular visitors to Thailand! Within a few years there's going to be no westerners visiting Thailand at all. ????

The former justifications for visiting and staying in Thailand are quickly evaporating.

 

However the one remaining advantage is that some medical care and almost all dental treatment is worth coming for.

 

Are there any visa categories that allow regular visits for medical/ dental reasons?

[yogi100]

2 hours ago, mindfulness said:

Have I missed something, just get the single entry non-immigrant 0 visa then apply in Thailand for a multiple entry stamp. 

You can't. You have to get a ME visa in your own country before coming to the LOS. You can't convert a SE Non O visa to a ME at the Immigrations Office nor at the airport.

 

Can you?

 

I doubt the Thai authorities would allow something as easy, straight forward and as convenient as that especially where us falangs are concerned.

[ubonjoe]

I just did a clean up of this topic making it several posts shorter for various reasons.

No further notice will be given when posts are removed.

[lamyai3]

8 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

The heading refers to the Non O Multi Entry visa not the O visa ME visa. O and Non O are not the same. 

No such thing as an O visa. There's the different types of tourist visas, including single and multiple entry, and then the Non-immigrant visas which include Non O and Non O/A among others. 

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

We need 20,000 plus wifes and families to march into Bangkok and hand in a petition for change...

If they could get a few, newly elected, MPs onboard even better and now is the time while the changes in government are happening.

Us expats will never influence any changes but 1000s of upset families might have some impact ?

 

Why do you think they have any interest in non-Thais? Why should they care? Their only reaction would be to say that if you don't like it you are free to leave. Just like some of the posters here.

[yogi100]

2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Non is short for non immigrant. The O means others. Just saying a O visa is not correct.

It could be a non-o or a non-oa or a non-ox visa. Those three visas are completely different.

Cheers Joe.

 

In my passport under category is says 'O'.

 

It gets very complicated for a retired bloke who simply wants to spend a few months at a time each year in the LOS and probably put a couple of hundred thousand baht or more into the local economy at the same time.

 

I don't think the Thais have thought this through unless of course they don't want their people to benefit or prosper from our presence. I'm on holiday right now in Pattaya and it's pretty dead as it is with the currency exchange rates.

 

This is only going to deter long term visitors from coming to the LOS just like the new 800,000 baht regulations are going to get rid of many retirees. 

 

Then there's the money senders.

Who's gonna send money to his sweetheart when he's going to have obstacles placed in his way when he want to come and visit her. (Or him)

 

 

[Jumbo1968]

41 minutes ago, Denim said:

Yes. Just back from there yesterday.

No problems on the Thai side but swarms of young Chinese clogging up Burmese immigration applying for some kind of visa. Had to shoulder my way to the front of a long queue to explain I was only doing a turnaround. Had I not done so would have been there over an hour instead of usual 5 minutes..

My current Non O Multi Entry expires on April the 4th 2020, if I leave in Match 2020 will I still get another 3 months from the date I re-enter Thailand ?

[wobalt]

No
They can still get a single entry non-o visa and apply an extension of stay based upon their spouses extension or OA visa entry.

An Extension would not be possible for me as my wife working in Europe.
The multiple entry was a flexible solution when working in the region.
You never know when you get a new project


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[LivinLOS]

1 hour ago, GalaxyMan said:

We're going to Portugal, where I lived for many years and for whose government I have zero respect. Not quite as corrupt as Thailand is about the best I can do. I have a Schengen passport and have written a letter of sponsorship, assuming all responsibility for everything. The paperwork is copies of all passports, hers and mine, letters from my bank attesting to my financial wherewithal, copies of all travel reservations, proof of place to stay, proof of insurance (for her), letter from her job stating the particulars of her employment and dates for which she has permission to miss work for the trip, copies of her bank books, copies of any and all deeds for property that she owns. And she needs to travel from Samui to Bangkok for the whole biometric nonsense. Nothing can be done online. All paperwork has to be turned in personally. It's not that it's hard, it's a huge PITA.

 

I understand what they're doing. This is about stopping people from entering and staying to find work, has nothing at all to do with security ala ISIS, et al. And yes, once you're in, you're in and none of the Thai nonsense about reporting like a paroled prisoner. You can do anything but work legally.

 

My point is that getting into Thailand is a piece of cake comparatively, and the 90-day reporting is a PITA, but no big deal. Takes me less than 30 minutes from the time I leave home until I get back. Small price to pay for being allowed to live here.

Did portugal 2 years ago with her.. Didnt find it in any way difficult but did need to go do a BKK visit.. Once done once I dont think subsequent ones even need that just post it off.. 

 

The west has 'free stuff' from healthcare to housing to benefits, to etc etc etc.. Of course with a social state that cares for the people within it there needs to be controls however like my sister in law, who after 5 years is a citizen, with a pension to come, free everything, no controls, right to vote etc show me the westerner getting anything like that in Thailand. 

[Jumbo1968]

8 hours ago, yogi100 said:

I got that same visa for 125 quid just before they put it up to 150 quid. Also from London in March '19.

It expires March 2020.

I'm in receipt of a STATE Pension. 

Are you positive it's a Non - O. Mine is not.

What does it say under category? 

Passport states NON-IMM O, MULTIPLE..

[cornishcarlos]

32 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Why do you think they have any interest in non-Thais?

Sorry, I neglected to say "Thai wifes"

It would take Thai wifes and Thai families of expats to make any changes...

Not much chance of the people that make decisions listening to anyone but Thais marching in Bangkok, demanding family rights, would be a good start...

[wobalt]

Have you ever tried to get a Schengen area visa? [emoji849] I'm going through the process right now for my Thai girlfriend so that we can take a trip to Europe. I wish it were as easy as the Thai requirements, which are not the least bit unreasonable. Last I read, the Americans now want access to your social media accounts for the past 5 years to get a tourist visa. You're complaining about Thailand?

It is easy when you apply for the business visa (max 90 days)


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[cornishcarlos]

13 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

My current Non O Multi Entry expires on April the 4th 2020, if I leave in Match 2020 will I still get another 3 months from the date I re-enter Thailand ?

 

Only if you re-enter before 4th April 2020...

[yogi100]

9 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Passport states NON-IMM O, MULTIPLE..

Exactly what mine states.

 

Ubon Joe just informed me that a Non O is the same as an O Visa after all. So that clears up that bit of confusion.

[Jumbo1968]

36 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Only if you re-enter before 4th April 2020...

Thanks for the reply, I won’t be coming back till May so will have to apply for a new Visa obviously the Non O Multi Entry won’t be available.

[Percy P]

23 hours ago, userabcd said:

For a single entry non O - For accompanying a Thai spouse : A copy of marriage certificate, a copy of Thai passport/a copy of Thai ID of spouse, and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,500.)

 

What happens if one does not have the monthly income of GBP1500 per month but a lump sum amount. There seems to be no option for a lump sum amount in a bank account for this option?

20,000 Baht (£500) on writing £1= 40B is a requirement for entry into the Thai Kingdom. £500 in your Bank Acc will get you what visa is required..

[crazyk]

Best way to get a setv without showing the money is enter thailand on 30 day exempt with the appropriate requirements, fly to Kuala Lumpur on the last day & apply at the thai consular there,they don't bother with the bank statements unless it's changed,worth a try nothing to lose,that way you will have 120? Days in thailand with the 30 day extension at the local immigration, 

[aqua4]

1 hour ago, cornishcarlos said:

Sorry, I neglected to say "Thai wifes"

It would take Thai wifes and Thai families of expats to make any changes...

Not much chance of the people that make decisions listening to anyone but Thais marching in Bangkok, demanding family rights, would be a good start...

 

There was a Thai women around 2004 who stood up about the issue and she even made the Bangkok Post. She complained to the government even then that these rules (at that time) was creating problems and that her own husband divorced her and went back home and so did many others she knew.

 

The complaint in that point in time was that they had not been allowed to work even while trying to feed their families without doing loads of hoop jumping on work permits and then the annual visa shuffle. Nothing came of it and she disappeared down the memory hole. When I read how pathetic many foreigners are on this forum with their  -- if you dont like it here go home mindset --- It took a Thai women to stand on her own to make a point which affected her family. 

 

I came to the conclusion having seen expats simply leave their wife behind with the mindset that if I cant live in your country, then why should you live in mine. Yes it was a strange thought but I thought it was the bitterness of it all in the end.

 

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Why do you think they have any interest in non-Thais? Why should they care? Their only reaction would be to say that if you don't like it you are free to leave. Just like some of the posters here.

 

True again! But this is where the cuckolding lays on this forum. The "go home expats" think that while the crocodile eats his neighbour it is not his concern. Yet forgetting that the crocodile will come after him next. How spiffy had been the ones with their 'embassy letters' throwing stones on those who did not have one. Yet now that coin has turned back onto everyone including themselves.

 

As I said before and will say it again --- there is something else going on and it certainly is not visa issues or visa abuse. I agree with many posters here that the system is unfair and illogical and that we should have rules that if I cant live in your country you should not be able to live in mine and ditto for business ownership and property. If you want to talk about globalism and its benefits -- that would be it. This however is not globalism but colonisation of the West by the East as everything is just flowing one way.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 21, 2019 by aqua4
My spelling sucks at this time of the morning.