UK junior minister suspended after grappling with eco-protester

[connda]

3 hours ago, chickenslegs said:

"Horrific"?

 

Had a security officer or cop done that their would not be a peep.

[connda]

2 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

These women should of been handled only by other women (security)

You haven't been watching the Gillet Jaunes marches in France I guess?

Show me any nation in the world where only women are allowed to arrest women?  It may actually come to a place like Sweden, and possibly other progressive nanny-states, but it is not and never will be the global norm.  The norm is rough men doing dirty work regardless of gender, or gender identification for that matter of those they target.

[nontabury]

I support the actions of this junior minister,in spite of the fact that he is a treacherous Remainer. She wanted to publicize her opinion on climate change, a cause that I agree with her, but it was a private function, and I do beleive he used reasonable force to restrain her. Although I have to wonder,would there be all this fuss if the intruder was a man.

 

[from the home of CC]

8 minutes ago, connda said:

You haven't been watching the Gillet Jaunes marches in France I guess?

Show me any nation in the world where only women are allowed to arrest women?  It may actually come to a place like Sweden, and possibly other progressive nanny-states, but it is not and never will be the global norm.  The norm is rough men doing dirty work regardless of gender, or gender identification for that matter of those they target.

I guess it all depends on how you were brought up..

[transam]

10 minutes ago, nontabury said:

I support the actions of this junior minister,in spite of the fact that he is a treacherous Remainer. She wanted to publicize her opinion on climate change, a cause that I agree with her, but it was a private function, and I do beleive he used reasonable force to restrain her. Although I have to wonder,would there be all this fuss if the intruder was a man.

 

They would have been saying...."Should have given him a good kickin".....

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

I guess it all depends on how you were brought up..

I was brought up not to trespass.

[evadgib]

A reminder to the usual culprits that it's CONTENT rather than poster before hitting reply...

 

[sqwakvfr]

Overall the Minister used good technique in removing someone who needed to be removed.  

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

These women should of been handled only by other women (security) though it should of never got to that point anyway, somebody dropped the ball. Terrible optics and the continuing chaos in the political system is embarrassing. The MP looks like he's getting off on it, must treat his wife lovingly. lol 

They should have been tasered and removed to the local police station as terrorists.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

I was brought up not to trespass.

I though you were supposed to forgive them their trespasses ..........

[sammieuk1]

Sack the gripper???? 

[Baerboxer]

6 hours ago, roquefort said:

The main opposition Labour Party's spokeswoman for women and equalities Dawn Butler said Field should be immediately suspended or sacked. "This is horrific," she wrote on Twitter.

 

If the Labour Party wants to know what horrific really means they should ask the people who live in the socialist paradise of Venezuela.

 

Usual Labor hypocritical hyperbole!

 

When their Deputy PM, 2-Jags Prescott, thumped a protester who cracked an egg on him they didn't clamor for his suspension or sacking!

 

The security at that venue should not have allowed the protesters in. They should have been removed, forcibly if necessary.

 

They have no right to trespass, disrupt and assault.

[Basil B]

10 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The main opposition Labour Party's spokeswoman for women and equalities Dawn Butler said Field should be immediately suspended or sacked. "This is horrific," she wrote on Twitter.

So predictable...

 

Yet had it been a shadow minister her silence would be deafening.

[Chazar]

Should have closed his hands tighter, do good fruitcakes.

[OneMoreFarang]

4 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Except this was at a conference about climate change - hardly the most likely place for one of the extremely rare muslim, white women, converts....  Do you seriously think this is why he man-handled her in this way?

 

 

Except it wasn't a young arab....

 

Trying to deflect to 'it could have been' when it clearly wasn't - doesn't help your case.

My point was it does not matter who it was.

The women in red should be treated like any other intruder. If the intruder would have been a young Arab then I guess most people would think it's would have been justified to grab such an intruder by the neck. But in this case it was a woman. And not the same people who want to tell us all the time that women are 100% equal try to tell us that this innocent and weak woman should get the special soft treatment. Why? She was an intruder and she wanted to create trouble. He removed her. He did not kick her or kill her. She can just walk home. Case closed.

[Justgrazing]

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

"In the current climate, I felt the need to act decisively to close down the threat to the safety of those present," he said in a statement.

These are edgy times we live in 3 yrs ago an MP was murdered by a nutter .. Farage recently got coated with milkshake on a walkabout ..  MP's and advisors are constantly threatened and harangued on Social Media and then this lot invade un-announced a knees up for the high and mighty like a load of ladybirds in their red dresses and then kick off about getting turfed out .. The one in question who the M P grabbed hold of should think herself lucky it weren't the Old Bill who grabbed hold of her or worse .. 

[Thingamabob]

Grappling ? Rubbish. He threw her out. Entirely justified.

[Lokie]

Vid said it all, only poss law broken would be that of Trespass. The minister should be get a bollocking though as he should have stuck his size 9 up her arse on the way out! 

[billd766]

6 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

I guess it all depends on how you were brought up..

The way I was brought up some 60 or 70 years ago has no bearing on the reality of now. In those days nobody would have been trespassing into a private function, male or female, there would have been more police around (thanks Mrs May) and the trespassers would not have got that far.

 

Nowadays since women have more or less achieved equality they cannot pull the "Don't touch me, I am a woman card". Equality is a 2 way street.

[faraday]

What is this rubbish about 'violence to women'?

 

She wanted to protest, & put herself into this position.

 

After the Farage incident, & then Jo Brand's daft comment, I would imagine he was very alarmed.

 

The problem is with Security; complete lack of.

 

Do not make this about gender.

 

 

[evadgib]

As seen by a Sandhurst trained Military Intelligence officer (Retd):

 

[dick dasterdly]

17 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Usual Labor hypocritical hyperbole!

 

When their Deputy PM, 2-Jags Prescott, thumped a protester who cracked an egg on him they didn't clamor for his suspension or sacking!

 

The security at that venue should not have allowed the protesters in. They should have been removed, forcibly if necessary.

 

They have no right to trespass, disrupt and assault.

"The security at that venue should not have allowed the protesters in."

 

I agree entirely with this point.  Why on earth did the security allow the protester into the event?

 

22 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If the woman had been any threat to his safety he wouldn't have gone near her. 

I agree equally strongly with this point.

[dick dasterdly]

13 hours ago, evadgib said:

As seen by a Sandhurst trained Military Intelligence officer (Retd):

 

Except this middle-aged woman clearly wasn't "armed with a concealed semi-automatic"....

 

Another 'if the circumstances were entirely different' argument......

[evadgib]

34 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Except this middle-aged woman clearly wasn't "armed with a concealed semi-automatic"....

 

Another 'if the circumstances were entirely different' argument......

In the time (3 seconds?) he had in which to react all he could have been sure of was that he was tackling an adult in a red dress.

As for weapony; I don't want to go too far in that direction other than to say mobiles (or anything else carried by a woman in evening attire) can be deceptive...

[MRToMRT]

Whilst I stand up for the right to protest against politicians and political gatherings 100% and I am no fan of the Conservative party or any of its members, I have to say I thought he did an admirable job in dealing with the situation.

 

Makes me feel sick to see how this is being played on brit TV by some as an attack against a female - utter tosh.

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

Whilst I stand up for the right to protest against politicians and political gatherings 100% and I am no fan of the Conservative party or any of its members, I have to say I thought he did an admirable job in dealing with the situation.

 

Makes me feel sick to see how this is being played on brit TV by some as an attack against a female - utter tosh.

Correctamundo, the UK now usually portrays the perpetrators as the victims. Left logic.

[OtinPattaya]

I agree with the gent who suggested that these politicos should perhaps have better security, so that these juvenile mishaps can be avoided. That being said, the left in America and Great Britain is the one perpetuating these juvenile antics. When was the last time a Republican, or God forbid a MAGA guy, threw a milk-shake on a democratic candidate? The last MAGA scare in America turned out to be a complete hoax  (remember Smollet?). MAGA people work their jobs, live their lives, and watch Fox news. They don't form mobs that prevent people of different political persuasions from expressing their views, let alone organize academic riots or milk-shaking incidents. There have been numerous examples of conservative politicians in American, Britain, and Scandinavia who have been physically assaulted for doing nothing more than expressing their positions. 

[OtinPattaya]

On 6/21/2019 at 8:17 PM, klauskunkel said:

This man chose to act physically against the woman. I bet you 10 baht that if it had been a fit young man instead of an out-of-shape lady he would have preferred to let the actual security personnel handle it...

He did not "act decisively", he acted because he was irritated and there was no chance of him getting his ass handed to him by this lady on TV.

I'd bet you a thousand bhat that if the original aggressor had been a "fit young man" we would not be talking about this. He would have been dealt with expeditiously. No story to tell. 

 

BTW, 10 bhat isn't much to wager. That's the toll for a bhat bus. You don't have much courage of conviction, do you? 

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

In the time (3 seconds?) he had in which to react all he could have been sure of was that he was tackling an adult in a red dress.

As for weapony; I don't want to go too far in that direction other than to say mobiles (or anything else carried by a woman in evening attire) can be deceptive...

I'm only replying because I respect you as a poster.

 

The woman in question clearly didn't have a "concealed semi-automatic" under her dress - and if she did, it would have taken an age to reveal and construct.....

 

Never mind how you look at it IMO, this is a case where the security services failed when they allowed her to enter - and a junior minister who suddenly felt 'brave' (????) when confronted with a middle-aged woman that annoyed him.

[BritManToo]

On 6/22/2019 at 10:17 AM, klauskunkel said:

This man chose to act physically against the woman. I bet you 10 baht that if it had been a fit young man instead of an out-of-shape lady he would have preferred to let the actual security personnel handle it...

She wanted to be treated as the equal of a man.

She was, end of.

 

Can you imagine what would have happened to this woman if she had burst into a White House dinner, or a cabinet dinner with Prayut?