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Gambling: Prayut set to go after the cuddly toy "mafia"


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it is gambling, if you put money in and get nothing, it is gambling, great work of the thai government to nip it early, look at aus now,  years ago a few coins in a fruit machine, now the whole place is one big casino, no gambling in thailand and i for one love it, thats why i live here !

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3 minutes ago, stropper said:

it is gambling, if you put money in and get nothing, it is gambling, great work of the thai government to nip it early, look at aus now,  years ago a few coins in a fruit machine, now the whole place is one big casino, no gambling in thailand and i for one love it, thats why i live here !

Apart from the lottery of course.

Previous governments have defended it, wanting to keep their income from it, saying it's merely a 'game of chance', but not gambling.

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2 hours ago, dallen52 said:

They are not gambling. 

You cannot exercise skills or expertise on them. 

 

Quite simply..

You put a coin in and drop the claws on to an object. 

 

The computer chip tells the claws to stay closed or grip loosely. 

And that's it.

 

One in 20 was the last setting I heard.

Combined with the ability of the players to drop the open claw on something. 

 

Not exactly rocket science. 

 

What you described is the exact definition of gambling.

I say this as a professional gambler of 10 years. These machines are gambling, aimed at children. I do not allow my children to play them, and they are better off for it.

I say this is a good decision. Kids need protection. Sometimes the state needs to do parents jobs for it (eg cigarettes, alcohol, GAMBLING age restrictions)

Call it a nanny state if you like. I call it pretty reasonable.

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3 hours ago, poohy said:

In an Amusement arcade in a wet day in New Quay Wales mid 60s aged about 5 i won a teddy bear on a similar machine (took about 20 goes and i am sure i or my parents could have bought one far cheaper but there you go)

 

This event has not scared me for life but funny what suddenly springs into memory!

 

 

I was unaware they had electric,  in Wales in the 60's :giggle:

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5 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

But in Thailand gambling is illegal, yet there are so many addicted to gambling.

 

In counties where gambling is legal there is not such a problem. 

 

Seems so many things are illegal here, but people still do them and take no notice of the law.  That is Thailand.  Do you really think removing these machines for toys is going to stop people gambling?  55.

 

Maybe you should have a look at some of the Clubs, Pubs and Casinos in Australia plenty of addicted people there and it’s very legal

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5 hours ago, ezzra said:

The only 'gambling' i see is whether the claws will hang on to the toy or not... other than that, these machines are just a big con and they have been around for many years and only in this country they're classified as gambling...Oh well...

So I was wrong - I thought this was going to be next on the "hit list" :-

 

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18 minutes ago, stropper said:

it is gambling, if you put money in and get nothing, it is gambling, great work of the thai government to nip it early, look at aus now,  years ago a few coins in a fruit machine, now the whole place is one big casino, no gambling in thailand and i for one love it, thats why i live here !

I agree with your first comment about Aus but plenty of gambling here of different types just need to look for it.

For the record not interested myself.

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4 hours ago, kkerry said:

If I didn't win something after three goes I'd give up and walk away

 

I was in Las Vegas and put 25 cents in a slot machine and lost, so walked away as I was on a losing streak. At least I can claim that I gambled in Vegas.

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6 hours ago, ezzra said:

The only 'gambling' i see is whether the claws will hang on to the toy or not... other than that, these machines are just a big con and they have been around for many years and only in this country they're classified as gambling...Oh well...

I think this man have much greater problem to solve !!!!!

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6 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Nanny state.

Where it chooses! kids going to school on motorbikes or hanging off the back off baht buses is quite acceptable. "Pathetic state" may be more apt?

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2 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

I believe the Dart throwing games were banned at Fairs some 2 years or more ago.

Well I guess that all the fairs are doing it illegally here in CM.  They are still a common sight.  Only last week I was at one.  Had a go with the darts and balloons, but lost.  I did win a goldfish though on another game.  

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1 hour ago, StevieAus said:

Maybe you should have a look at some of the Clubs, Pubs and Casinos in Australia plenty of addicted people there and it’s very legal

Sorry, I was not clear in my meaning in my post... my fault.  What I meant was that here in Thailand gambling in illegal, but they still have a massive problem with gambling addicts.  

 

In countries where gambling in legal, there seems to be no worse or better.  

 

So banning the soft toy machines is, in my opinion, going to have ZERO affect to reduce gambling addictions in Thailand.

 

The poster I replied to say saying that by banning these games then it will help stop kids getting into gambling.  I see no evidence of that.  

 

If they were serious about it they would ban the lottery... which I think most Thai people gamble on every week.  I can't imagine that the soft toy machines will collect as much money as the national lottery, or have as many people playing them.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:
2 hours ago, Cake Monster said:

I believe the Dart throwing games were banned at Fairs some 2 years or more ago.

Well I guess that all the fairs are doing it illegally here in CM.  They are still a common sight.  Only last week I was at one.  Had a go with the darts and balloons, but lost.  I did win a goldfish though on another game.  

Isn't that yet another evil foreign game that you need a licence for, to avoid the threat of imprisonment?

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If the Thai lottery is legal I can't see why this innocent toy machine can't be legal too.  I would send a complaint, and ask them to rethink their decision, 

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7 hours ago, Hayduke said:

 

This has all the makings of a great video game...."The Mean Uncle vs the Cute, Lovable Cuddly Toys". Won't be long before the entire country will be playing this game obsessively on their phones....

 

 

when a person WINS just HOW do they get a cuddly toy???

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12 minutes ago, balo said:

If the Thai lottery is legal I can't see why this innocent toy machine can't be legal too.  I would send a complaint, and ask them to rethink their decision, 

complain all you want IT IS VITAL that these machines are to be gone....spoils the image of Thailand !!

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6 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

But in Thailand gambling is illegal, yet there are so many addicted to gambling.

 

In counties where gambling is legal there is not such a problem. 

 

Seems so many things are illegal here, but people still do them and take no notice of the law.  That is Thailand.  Do you really think removing these machines for toys is going to stop people gambling?  55.

 

You are wrong on so many levels.

In Australia the gambling epidemic became absolutely insidious.

And to think that Aus governments did absolutely nothing about it for many years, because they were earning tax from it, is absolutely disgusting.

Its only been in the last few years, its been wound down because of the massive social problems.

The worst part about it, is that its the least educated and least who can afford it get addicted to it.

 

Im glad Thailand is taking a stance on what some will say are "harmless machines" as that means Casinos will NOT be let into the country proper.

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2 minutes ago, pookondee said:

Im glad Thailand is taking a stance on what some will say are "harmless machines" as that means Casinos will NOT be let into the country proper.

I kinda like they way they deal with casinos in Singapore. As a foreigner you show your passport and off you go, but locals pay a $150 fee for a 24 hour entry or $3000 for an annual pass. 

 

 

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