‘Ja New’ needs eye socket operation, say human rights lawyers

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‘Ja New’ needs eye socket operation, say human rights lawyers

By The Nation

 

 

Anti-junta activist Sirawith Seritiwat was so severely injured in an attack that he suffered a broken nose and cheekbone and will need an operation to fix his broken right eye socket, the Thai Lawyers for Human Rights group said on Saturday.

 

Sirawith was assaulted by four unidentified men with baseball bats in Bangkok on Friday morning. They were wearing helmets and rode on motorbikes with no licence plates.

 

Sirawith suffered severe injuries to his head. His mother said he told her last night that he suspected he was being followed.

 

It was the second time Sirawith has been attacked this month.

 

The human rights lawyer group posted on its Twitter wall on Saturday that Sirawith, better known as Ja New, is still in severe condition and needs to be put on a respiratory system.

 

 

The group said Sirawith received eight stitches on his head and his right eye seemed to protrude more than the left eye after the injuries caused a blood clot and pressure in the eye.

 

Sirawith received treatment at the Navamin 1 Hospital before he was transferred to Mission Hospital where he can use his social security welfare rights, the group said.

 

The group said Sirawith is waiting for a specialist to perform surgery on his broken right eye socket.

 

 

The group posted a report from the Navamin 1 Hospital that said:

 

Physical checkup finding:

 

- Two wounds at right eyebrow and head skin.

 

- Swollen now with blood seeping out.

 

- Swollen right eye, blood clot in right eye, iris of the right eye expands, right eye lacks vision.

 

MRI scans on brain and right eye socket finding:

 

- Broken nose and broken cheekbone.

 

- Broken right eye socket with blood clot pressuring on nerves.

 

Treatment at Navamin 1:

 

- Surgery to cure wounds on head and right eyebrow.

 

- Piercing to reduce pressure in the right eyeball.

 

- Administered with oxygen, saline solution, antibiotic, anti-tetanus drug, and drug for reducing swollen eye nerves.

 

Forwarding:

 

The patient has been forwarded for treatment by ophthalmologist and for plastic surgery.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30371958

 

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[Sonhia]

An individual is beaten for doing what is right, fighting for human rights.

 

Disgusting .

 

Paradise.

[yellowboat]

It would seem the mighty have tremendous fears.   This gentleman, should he survive and continue his important work, will need to take his personal security far more seriously.  Wonder if these are paid thugs.

[Paul Henry]

Will the illustious PM offer free protective services supplied by the Govnerment to insure free speech and other democratic rights. A true test for the govnerment to see what they truely believe in and uphold.

[Pedrogaz]

A very sad day for Thailand. All appearances of democracy blown away and the police state makes its appearance. One suspects that no one will ever be brought to book for this crime.

[malibukid]

i guess 1984 will be required reading now

[hotchilli]

9 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said:

A very sad day for Thailand. All appearances of democracy blown away and the police state makes its appearance. One suspects that no one will ever be brought to book for this crime.

CCTV will be lacking in this case... not a hope in hell of tracking the perpetrators anywhere.

[londonthai]

witnesses identified perpetrators as police officers, shouting "police, police"

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, yellowboat said:

It would seem the mighty have tremendous fears.   This gentleman, should he survive and continue his important work, will need to take his personal security far more seriously.  Wonder if these are paid thugs.

 

Regarding your last sentence. I doubt they were doing it for fun, out of some ideological conviction or because of some personal grudge.

 

The Muslim HR lawyer has been missing for years. This guy has been assaulted before. The guy who witnessed a certain former PM at a hotel meeting she denied attending was murdered in very mysterious circumstances. The missing Saudis and their missing gems. etc etc etc.

 

There are dark forces in every country but some very dark ones here indeed. As a farang, keep well out of it.

 

 

[londonthai]

7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Regarding your last sentence. I doubt they were doing it for fun, out of some ideological conviction or because of some personal grudge.

 

The Muslim HR lawyer has been missing for years. This guy has been assaulted before. The guy who witnessed a certain former PM at a hotel meeting she denied attending was murdered in very mysterious circumstances. The missing Saudis and their missing gems. etc etc etc.

 

There are dark forces in every country but some very dark ones here indeed. As a farang, keep well out of it.

 

 

in all your political posts you do support junta, army and establishment. Out of fun, ideological conviction, personal grudge or deep fear. Which one is it? Of course, you are not payed political propagandist 

[DrTuner]

3 hours ago, Sonhia said:

An individual is beaten for doing what is right, fighting for human rights.

 

Disgusting .

 

Paradise.

Thailand, "Land of the Free" - a in feel free to bash dissidents faces in.

[scorecard]

35 minutes ago, londonthai said:

in all your political posts you do support junta, army and establishment. Out of fun, ideological conviction, personal grudge or deep fear. Which one is it? Of course, you are not payed political propagandist 

You wrote '...in all your posts you do support junta....'

 

You are incorrect and you are divisive, the poster, like many others has submitted many posts critical of many aspects of the current gov't. 

Edited June 30, 2019 by scorecard

[sjaak327]

3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

That's a very big and incorrect assumption, you say '...in all your posts you do support junta....'

 

You are incorrect and you are divisive, the poster, like others has submitted many posts critical of many aspects of the current gov't. 

Actually he isn't incorrect, this poster has a habit of deflecting, either with a but Thaksin or another completely unrelated comment, most definitely a junta supporter, it is in black and white, all over this forum. 

 

Personally I think his attempts to deflect from this issue to be without taste and disrespectful to the victim, who only used his free speech, which is a universal human right. 

Edited June 30, 2019 by sjaak327

[scorecard]

1 minute ago, sjaak327 said:

Actually he isn't incorrect, this poster has a habit of deflecting, either with a but Thaksin or another completely unrelated comment, most definitely a junta supporter, it is in black and white, all over this forum. 

No you are wrong, he has many posts which criticize the junta and what goes with it, he also, like others has many posts critical of other colours / ideologies and whatever.

 

Is this a case of because someone criticizes previous governments and their scaly members, they are automatically a junta lover? 

 

 

[sjaak327]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

No you are wrong, he has many posts which criticize the junta and what goes with it, he also, like others has many posts critical of other colours / ideologies and whatever.

 

Is this a case of because someone criticizes previous governments and their scaly members, they are automatically a junta lover? 

 

 

You might not see the pattern, maybe you should read more carefully. He is a junta lover, he tries frantically to defend them, In most cases with the classic but Thaksin, even if the comparison is misplaced and irrelevant. Let's keep this nonsense out of this thread. 

 

 

[scorecard]

Just now, sjaak327 said:

You might not see the pattern, maybe you should read more carefully. He is a junta lover, he tries frantically to defend them, In most cases with the classic but Thaksin, even if the comparison is misplaced and irrelevant. Let's keep this nonsense out of this thread. 

 

 

Yes you should stop the nonsense too. And how opportune for you to throw in the thaksin card, reality is that you are often quick to try to protect thaksin, a ruthless convicted criminal.

 

Perhaps you could read this paragraph again:  'Is this a case of because someone criticizes previous governments and their scaly members, they are automatically a junta lover?' 

 

[sjaak327]

Just now, scorecard said:

Yes you should stop the nonsense too. And how opportune for you to throw in the thaksin card, reality is that you are often quick to try to protect thaksin, a ruthless convicted criminal.

 

Perhaps you could read this paragraph again:  'Is this a case of because someone criticizes previous governments and their scaly members, they are automatically a junta lover?' 

 

I never protect him, I merely point out, that this criminal at least secured a mandate, and was able to be voted out of office. The current criminals, ( who are leagues worse than Thaksin ever was) cannot as the previous elections have aptly shown. 

 

I did read your sentence, and I finalize with the statement that the poster concerned is a junta lover, based on numerous posts where he defends them, even if it is clear that defense defies the truth, and common sense. 

 

I personally cannot believe that people willfully ignore cold hard facts in their relentless pursuit to defame a person that hasn't even set foot on Thai soil in over a decade. Get over it. 

[scorecard]

What's '... to defame a person that hasn't even set foot on Thai soil in over a decade' got to do with anything?

 

Diversion.

 

Are you suggesting that if a person hasn't set foot in whatever country for 10 years nobody should comment on that person and should ignore their scaly past?

 

Perhaps you could read this paragraph again:  'Is this a case of because someone criticizes previous governments and their scaly members, they are automatically a junta lover?' 

 

 

[sjaak327]

 of course. I would have thought that to be bloody obvious./5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

What's '... to defame a person that hasn't even set foot on Thai soil in over a decade' got to do with anything?

 

Diversion.

 

Are you suggesting that if a person hasn't set foot in whatever country for 10 years nobody should comment on that person and should ignore their scaly past?

 

Perhaps you could read this paragraph again:  'Is this a case of because someone criticizes previous governments and their scaly members, they are automatically a junta lover?' 

 

 

Because that is the main reason for the defense attempts of course. I would have thought that to be bloody Obvious.

 

Nowhere do I claim his past should be ignored, by all means remind us all on topics where he is the subject. But posting about his ALLEGED past behaviour on almost every thread that deals with the Junta, is not only highly off topic, it is downright annoying, we get the broken record already. 

 

Do you guys really believe that injecting Thaksin's behaviour somehow justifies the actions of the Junta ? No nobody is that daft. The evidence that the current lot are leagues worse cannot possibly be denied, but alas their start already put them squarly in front of Thaksin, five years ago. People staging coups will never have the moral high ground of course. 

 

Again I got your message loud and clear, I have stated that based on what I am reading from said poster he is a junta lover, and blimey, I am not the only one who has noticed. So instead of suggesting I have trouble reading a single line of text, maybe you should have a good hard look to some of the posts I am referring to. 

[khunken]

33 minutes ago, sjaak327 said:

Because that is the main reason for the defense attempts of course. I would have thought that to be bloody Obvious.

 

Nowhere do I claim his past should be ignored, by all means remind us all on topics where he is the subject. But posting about his ALLEGED past behaviour on almost every thread that deals with the Junta, is not only highly off topic, it is downright annoying, we get the broken record already. 

 

Do you guys really believe that injecting Thaksin's behaviour somehow justifies the actions of the Junta ? No nobody is that daft. The evidence that the current lot are leagues worse cannot possibly be denied, but alas their start already put them squarly in front of Thaksin, five years ago. People staging coups will never have the moral high ground of course. 

 

Again I got your message loud and clear, I have stated that based on what I am reading from said poster he is a junta lover, and blimey, I am not the only one who has noticed. So instead of suggesting I have trouble reading a single line of text, maybe you should have a good hard look to some of the posts I am referring to. 

It doesn't matter whether he is a junta 'lover' or not, he is quite entitled to post examples of other violence, disappearances or murders of activists over the years in Thailand. The record is not good.

From your posts in this thread you seem to be upset that someone is posting examples that occurred under Thaksin. Seems you are hypocritically calling out another poster for being a supporter of the current mob while you are supporting, or at least defending, Thaksin.

For the record I think the attacks on Ja New are disgusting but doubt that the thugs will be apprehended.

[sjaak327]

9 minutes ago, khunken said:

It doesn't matter whether he is a junta 'lover' or not, he is quite entitled to post examples of other violence, disappearances or murders of activists over the years in Thailand. The record is not good.

From your posts in this thread you seem to be upset that someone is posting examples that occurred under Thaksin. Seems you are hypocritically calling out another poster for being a supporter of the current mob while you are supporting, or at least defending, Thaksin.

For the record I think the attacks on Ja New are disgusting but doubt that the thugs will be apprehended.

I merely responded to another poster, I am not upset about the post in this thread. Neither am I defending Thaksin. I do however call a spade a spade, the poster concerned is defending the Junta at any possibility even if it is not even related to the thread at hand. The poster I responded to, seems to believe this not the case, and that's why I responded, nothing more and nothing less.

 

As to the thugs being apprehended, I agree, slim chance. Personally I have regrets even responding to scorecard, as it poisons this thread. For that I apologize. 

Edited June 30, 2019 by sjaak327

[Rhys]

Next the family... as the SOP... Sad...they need safety.

[pornprong]

14 minutes ago, khunken said:

It doesn't matter whether he is a junta 'lover' or not, he is quite entitled to post examples of other violence, disappearances or murders of activists over the years in Thailand. The record is not good.

From your posts in this thread you seem to be upset that someone is posting examples that occurred under Thaksin. Seems you are hypocritically calling out another poster for being a supporter of the current mob while you are supporting, or at least defending, Thaksin.

For the record I think the attacks on Ja New are disgusting but doubt that the thugs will be apprehended.

He may be entitled to post whatever he wants, but the purpose behind those posts can just as certainly be questioned.

Lets examine that.

Why do you think Baerboxer and Scorecard raised the particular historical issues they did here?

More pointedly, why do you think the have focussed on issues they can relate to Thaksin?

That is the point of their garbage - to deflect from the current disgusting events and redirect towards Thaksin.

Why do they do this?

Who knows what they think they are achieving?

(who knows what you think you are achieving by supporting their nonsense?)

What is striking about the posts of these two in this thread is the complete lack of reference to the perpetrators of this crime and a complete lack of any sympathy for the victim of the crime - the sole focus is Thaksin.

It is a bizarre state of mind to be in.

 

So, my dear Khunken, of all the possible similar examples this pair of paragons of decency and human kindness could have referenced, why do YOU think they focussed on Thaksin?

 

 

 

 

 

[khunken]

4 minutes ago, pornprong said:

He may be entitled to post whatever he wants, but the purpose behind those posts can just as certainly be questioned.

Lets examine that.

Why do you think Baerboxer and Scorecard raised the particular historical issues they did here?

More pointedly, why do you think the have focussed on issues they can relate to Thaksin?

That is the point of their garbage - to deflect from the current disgusting events and redirect towards Thaksin.

Why do they do this?

Who knows what they think they are achieving?

(who knows what you think you are achieving by supporting their nonsense?)

What is striking about the posts of these two in this thread is the complete lack of reference to the perpetrators of this crime and a complete lack of any sympathy for the victim of the crime - the sole focus is Thaksin.

It is a bizarre state of mind to be in.

 

So, my dear Khunken, of all the possible similar examples this pair of paragons of decency and human kindness could have referenced, why do YOU think they focussed on Thaksin?

 

 

 

 

 

For a start Baerboxer, the original poster that caused the Thaksin-outrage, didn't only focus on Thaksin. He mentioned murders that occurred during & before (the Saudi gems case). Nor did either poster you mentioned, mention the perpetrators as, like most on this thread, including me, they don't who they are. And I'm not your 'dear'.

No need to reply to anything else in your post. Any questions about BB & Scorecard should be addressed to them as I'm not a mind-reader like you.

[pornprong]

19 minutes ago, khunken said:

For a start Baerboxer, the original poster that caused the Thaksin-outrage, didn't only focus on Thaksin. He mentioned murders that occurred during & before (the Saudi gems case). Nor did either poster you mentioned, mention the perpetrators as, like most on this thread, including me, they don't who they are. And I'm not your 'dear'.

No need to reply to anything else in your post. Any questions about BB & Scorecard should be addressed to them as I'm not a mind-reader like you.

He did indeed mention cases that occurred during and before, thus I did not post state that they exclusively singled out Thaksin related events, just that they focussed on them - which they did.

 

You don't need to know the perpetrators to mention them. If you re-read the previous sentence, you'll see I just mention the perpetrators and I, like you, don't know them.

In fact, you can mention the perpetrators without using the word perpetrator, just look at your own earlier post - 

 

"For the record I think the attacks on Ja New are disgusting but doubt that the thugs will be apprehended".

 

Would you look at that, it's my dear Khunken mentioning people he doesn't know.

 

You felt the need to condemn the attack, yet the other two didn't - they felt the need to focus on Thaksin and then, most bewilderingly, you felt it necessary to jump to their defence when their inanity was called out.

 

The attack(s) were disgusting, the perpetrators are thugs and the "but, but Thaksin" brigade are not much better - anyone stating such obvious facts is not a hypocrite, but instead a decent and empathetic human being.

 

[khunken]

5 minutes ago, pornprong said:

He did indeed mention cases that occurred during and before, thus I did not post state that they exclusively singled out Thaksin related events, just that they focussed on them - which they did.

 

You don't need to know the perpetrators to mention them. If you re-read the previous sentence, you'll see I just mention the perpetrators and I, like you, don't know them.

In fact, you can mention the perpetrators without using the word perpetrator, just look at your own earlier post - 

 

"For the record I think the attacks on Ja New are disgusting but doubt that the thugs will be apprehended".

 

Would you look at that, it's my dear Khunken mentioning people he doesn't know.

 

You felt the need to condemn the attack, yet the other two didn't - they felt the need to focus on Thaksin and then, most bewilderingly, you felt it necessary to jump to their defence when their inanity was called out.

 

The attack(s) were disgusting, the perpetrators are thugs and the "but, but Thaksin" brigade are not much better - anyone stating such obvious facts is not a hypocrite, but instead a decent and empathetic human being.

 

Sorry (for other posters) but this has to be the most stupid, irrelevant, part flaming & time-wasting post I've seen on TV for a while. I'm off before a mod comes along to remove this <deleted>.

[FarFlungFalang]

I can't help thinking that the perpetrators are low level and low intelligence as the Junta would hardly want to be offering up a martyr to give the opposition ammunition when they have enough headaches already,if they are acting independently shirley Phrayuth would want them apprehended and dealt with.If they are not low level then heaven help the higher ups.   

[from the home of CC]

4 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Regarding your last sentence. I doubt they were doing it for fun, out of some ideological conviction or because of some personal grudge.

 

The Muslim HR lawyer has been missing for years. This guy has been assaulted before. The guy who witnessed a certain former PM at a hotel meeting she denied attending was murdered in very mysterious circumstances. The missing Saudis and their missing gems. etc etc etc.

 

There are dark forces in every country but some very dark ones here indeed. As a farang, keep well out of it.

 

 

What's curious to me is why doesn't he just disappear or wind up in a canal? If this action is from the power base here and if he's considered a threat, why isn't the threat just removed? I don't really buy the martyr argument in this case so is it just incompetence or is it something else entirely?

[sjaak327]

1 hour ago, khunken said:

For a start Baerboxer, the original poster that caused the Thaksin-outrage, didn't only focus on Thaksin. He mentioned murders that occurred during & before (the Saudi gems case). Nor did either poster you mentioned, mention the perpetrators as, like most on this thread, including me, they don't who they are. And I'm not your 'dear'.

No need to reply to anything else in your post. Any questions about BB & Scorecard should be addressed to them as I'm not a mind-reader like you.

Just for reference and clarity. I have no problem with Bearboxer's post on this one, apart from the fact that it is highly off-topic and distateful. The subject is Ja new. Nothing more and nothing less.  

 

All I did was call out scorecard's notion that Bearboxer is not defending the Junta, he might not have done so with the post on this thread, but I read many more threads on here, and in many of those, he does defend the Junta, and that is simply all I claimed. 

 

It is simple, if you don't want to be called a junta lover, stop defending them at every turn, they are beyond defense, and anyone trying will rightfully have their motives and honesty questioned. Deal with it. 

[sjaak327]

52 minutes ago, pornprong said:

He did indeed mention cases that occurred during and before, thus I did not post state that they exclusively singled out Thaksin related events, just that they focussed on them - which they did.

 

You don't need to know the perpetrators to mention them. If you re-read the previous sentence, you'll see I just mention the perpetrators and I, like you, don't know them.

In fact, you can mention the perpetrators without using the word perpetrator, just look at your own earlier post - 

 

"For the record I think the attacks on Ja New are disgusting but doubt that the thugs will be apprehended".

 

Would you look at that, it's my dear Khunken mentioning people he doesn't know.

 

You felt the need to condemn the attack, yet the other two didn't - they felt the need to focus on Thaksin and then, most bewilderingly, you felt it necessary to jump to their defence when their inanity was called out.

 

The attack(s) were disgusting, the perpetrators are thugs and the "but, but Thaksin" brigade are not much better - anyone stating such obvious facts is not a hypocrite, but instead a decent and empathetic human being.

 

The time of the but thaksin brigade has come and gone, they have no legs to stand on anymore. Facts and truth have long made their posts irrelevant and in vain. But we will have to endure the <deleted> for a long time to come I guess. From time to time, I call them out, and for the rest the best course of action is simpy to ignore, they don't add anything to the discussion. 

Edited June 30, 2019 by sjaak327