UK far-right activist Tommy Robinson convicted in contempt-of-court case

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, armadillo215 said:

And what did it effect? Did effect the verdict? NO. It is total harassment and that's all and if you don't see or agree with that that speaks volumes of who you are... 

He’s not defending a man who committed a serious contempt of court and with it the real likelihood of vile rapists being set free without punishment.

 

Some folk are, and that does speak volumes.

[Sujo]

14 minutes ago, armadillo215 said:

And what did it effect? Did effect the verdict? NO. It is total harassment and that's all and if you don't see or agree with that that speaks volumes of who you are... 

It effected a breach of a court order which resulted in his arrest. Like it or not thats the law.

 

whether u agree with him or not. He broke the law, or do u think thats ok?

[Scott]

Off-topic post reported and removed. 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Sujo said:

It effected a breach of a court order which resulted in his arrest. Like it or not thats the law.

 

whether u agree with him or not. He broke the law, or do u think thats ok?

Not only did he break the law, while doing so he made repeated statements that demonstrate he new exactly what law he was breaking.

 

Another right wing narcissist who believes the law does not apply to him.

 

 

[joecoolfrog]

2 hours ago, armadillo215 said:

That is not the point. He said again what had already been said #1...# 2 that was some 14 months ago and we see now what he said had NO bearing on the case.

This has all been a total sham and a hugh cost to British taxpayer for what??? Islam rules in the UK....You deserve what you get...

Educate yourself.

[armadillo215]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He’s not defending a man who committed a serious contempt of court and with it the real likelihood of vile rapists being set free without punishment.

 

Some folk are, and that does speak volumes.

It was stated "in the high court by the judge, when he was released after being held, ILLEGALLY in solitary confinement for 19 days" that what he did and said had no effect on the trial and further what he did in his eyes was not contempt.

[armadillo215]

15 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Educate yourself.

I have followed this very closely and actually it is you and others in this conversation who should educate yourselves. 

Right wing narcissist? What's that about. OK globalist, socialist I am of the duck and cover generation and I have seen socialist/communist governments do. I want to keep what i earn...

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, armadillo215 said:

It was stated "in the high court by the judge, when he was released after being held, ILLEGALLY in solitary confinement for 19 days" that what he did and said had no effect on the trial and further what he did in his eyes was not contempt.

Yes, it had no effect because the judge refused the mistrial request.

He was convicted of contempt of court.

[armadillo215]

4 hours ago, stevenl said:

After the judge ordered the 'no publicity' order, all information from others was taken off line. Only TR kept on publishing. Whether or not the information was published earlier is totally irrelevant.

However if you'll check the other reports had not been taken down at the time of his arrest...

[nontabury]

On 7/6/2019 at 4:27 AM, petemoss said:

He didn't expose any paedophile gangs. He waited for others to expose them (police, press) and then used them to spout his race hate vitriol on his very profitable YouTube channel.

 

 

 In regards to the child abuse by Muslims in Rotherham, it was not the police, or even the local council who exposed the truth. In fact they had been covering up these cases as far back as the 1980’s. It was finally exposed to the public domain,by a reporter from the Times.

 

 

 

 

[katana]

14 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Yaxley-Lennon originally pleaded guilty.

He never pleaded guilty, although that's what the mainstream press claimed and was lapped up by his detractors.
After initially being arrested for breach of the peace, he was then told he was guilty of contempt of court by Judge Marston and summarily sent down within a few hours of arrest in what can only be described as a modern day equivalent of a drumhead trial. That's why he got off on appeal and Marston was lacerated by the appeal judge for procedural irregularities.
 

[SheungWan]

He's never expressed any nazi style beliefs and it's absurd to say he has.

As former member of the EDF rather difficult not to.

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[SheungWan]

"Mortgage fraud" does sound serious , but all Tommy did was to put some of his friends in touch with a mortgage broker that issued fake payslips in order to obtain a mortgage  .
IMO , the authorities only prosecuted Tommy because of who he is .
   No money was defrauded from any bank  , just fake payslips in order to receive a mortgage, which would have been paid back to the bank
 

Mortgage fraud defended. Go for it.

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[SheungWan]

He was a member of the BNP that says it all.
 
I give up. Some people will support vile racists no matter what they do or say.
 
He makes no distinction between Muslims as a whole and those of that faith who may have acted violently. “I’d personally send every adult male Muslim that has come into the EU over the past 12 months back tomorrow if I could. Fake refugees,”  - refering to a Tweet by Robinson in 2016.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/14/far-right-nazi-tommy-robinson-racist-movements-donald-trump

The guys supporting Robinson do not do so despite what activists like him do or say. They support Robinson precisely because he echoes the nasty racist politics they believe in.

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[TopDeadSenter]

9 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Mortgage fraud defended. Go for it.

We all have the right to our opinions. To be more angry about one guy allegedly facilitating a mortgage fraud than the organized, systematic and racially targeted gang rape of up to 1 million white and sheik children, and the subsequent attempts to cover it all up might leave you in the minority.

[Chomper Higgot]

57 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

We all have the right to our opinions. To be more angry about one guy allegedly facilitating a mortgage fraud than the organized, systematic and racially targeted gang rape of up to 1 million white and sheik children, and the subsequent attempts to cover it all up might leave you in the minority.

There is nothing ‘alleged’ about Yaxley Lennon and mortgage fraud, it’s been alleged and proven in court.

 

Yaxley Lennon has nothing positive to do with your hyperbole 1 million child victims of rape (for which you have zero evidence), other than its precisely the kind of fiction he and his  supporters peddle.

 

FACT - There is zero evidence of Yaxley Lennon ever discovering, exposing or preventing a single incident of child rape.

 

He did however commit contempt of court and was found guilty of that crime despite his appeal.

 

Incidentally, the vile rapists who’s trial he put at risk have, like Yaxley Lennon, a right to appeal, be prepared for them to exercise that right and for Yaxley Lennon’s illegal antics to be a factor in their appeal.

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

59 minutes ago, ThorD72 said:

Members of the UK government who turned a blind eye to the mass rape of its citizens by Muslims- for *Decades* -belong in jail. That’s a big reason why they’re throwing Tommy Robinson in jail, because he was the loudest and most persistent voice who made this known to his countrymen, and to the world, and they’re going to make him pay for it. They didn’t want to make Muslims pay for their actual crimes against citizens they’re meant to protect, but they’re hellbent to make the one man who outed them as enablers of these rape gangs pay for bringing attention to their crimes. It’s a crime to knowingly allow citizens that you’re meant to protect to be raped. And those who claim that this is an actual legitimate case against Tommy, and that he belongs in prison for what his persecutors call “contempt of court”, aren’t up in arms about Muslim rape gangs and its enablers in the UK government. This is a crime being committed by the UK government against a citizen who told the truth that they didn’t want told, and who tells the truth about Islam. And he is being forced into prison, among savages who want to murder him. This is an outrage, and it would be a top news story if we had a legitimate news media.

Ill informed, Islamophobic, tinfoil hatted conspiracy hogwash.

 

And of course the requisite disgraceful slur against those who don’t buy into Yaxley Lennon’s soapbox hate peddling.

 

 

[TopDeadSenter]

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

your hyperbole 1 million child victims of rape (for which you have zero evidence), other than its precisely the kind of fiction he and his  supporters peddle.

"There could be up to a million victims of child sexual exploitation in the UK, it is feared.

Rotherham’s Labour MP Sarah Champion describes it as a “national disaster” and is demanding a taskforce to fight the “horror.”"

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029

 

Of course we are all aware of the appalling fate that befell Ms Champion after her attempts to stop the rape gangs. A national disaster indeed.

Edited July 8, 2019 by TopDeadSenter

[yogi100]

1 hour ago, SheungWan said:

Mortgage fraud defended. Go for it.

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Are you really serious! So someone got a dodgy mortgage. Big deal!

 

It happens all the time, people get their accountants or their employers to say they're earning more than they actually are so they can buy a house.

 

If they can't actually afford the payments they lose the property. They're the losers not the banks who repossess  then sell the house again nor the vendor who got paid his original asking price in full.

[yogi100]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is nothing ‘alleged’ about Yaxley Lennon and mortgage fraud, it’s been alleged and proven in court.

 

Yaxley Lennon has nothing positive to do with your hyperbole 1 million child victims of rape (for which you have zero evidence), other than its precisely the kind of fiction he and his  supporters peddle.

 

FACT - There is zero evidence of Yaxley Lennon ever discovering, exposing or preventing a single incident of child rape.

 

He did however commit contempt of court and was found guilty of that crime despite his appeal.

 

Incidentally, the vile rapists who’s trial he put at risk have, like Yaxley Lennon, a right to appeal, be prepared for them to exercise that right and for Yaxley Lennon’s illegal antics to be a factor in their appeal.

 

How on earth will 'Yaxley Lennon’s' illegal antics be a factor in their appeal.

 

They were tried and convicted in court. YL had nothing to do with the trial, the verdict nor the sentencing.

[armadillo215]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

As former member of the EDF rather difficult not to.

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Yes, perhaps now the EDF was essentially taken over by the "Alt Right" (a big difference between them and "The Right" or Conservatives) and that's why he left them. He did not want to engage in the same activities as they.

[dick dasterdly]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

He’s not defending a man who committed a serious contempt of court and with it the real likelihood of vile rapists being set free without punishment.

 

Some folk are, and that does speak volumes.

I think the difference of opinion boils down to whether one believes "and with it the real likelihood of vile rapists being set free without punishment.".

 

As the jurors were already deliberating their decision (and presumably were sequestered?), it seems unlikely that there was a chance of them being influenced by what was happening outside the court IMO - so no good reason for a mistrial.  Which is presumably why the defense motion was dismissed.

 

I understand that in 'absolute' terms, TR committed contempt of court by breaking the 'no reporting' order - but the law and courts also need to be sensible to avoid being seen as authoritarian, and caring more about 'the law' than justice.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Ill informed, Islamophobic, tinfoil hatted conspiracy hogwash.

 

And of course the requisite disgraceful slur against those who don’t buy into Yaxley Lennon’s soapbox hate peddling.

How about those that are generally open minded but aren't buying into yours?

[Scott]

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[Chomper Higgot]

14 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

How on earth will 'Yaxley Lennon’s' illegal antics be a factor in their appeal.

 

They were tried and convicted in court. YL had nothing to do with the trial, the verdict nor the sentencing.

Lots of people get tried and convicted in court then overturn their conviction on appeal.

 

 

[armadillo215]

19 minutes ago, yogi100 said:

Well said. Bang on the nail.

 

Just one more example of the corruption that is now rife in what used to be a democratic nation, its government, its political community, its legal system, its media, its police and its social care organisations.

 

A country that should have a duty to protect the most vulnerable in society. Not turn it's back on organised long term industrial scale paedophilia.

 

And then start hounding, prosecuting and jailing a man who did more than anyone else to bring it to the public's attention

 

I'd really like to know what the rest of the world must think about us.

You did indeed nail it. At least there are a couple of straight headed patriots who can and has seen through the BBC and other mockingbird entertainment venues disguising as news outlets. Why in the world so many countries have cow-towed to Islam I can't figure out other than fear of what they do when poked.

[evadgib]

I watched a lot of TR's outside broadcasts (I was intrigued as to what all the fuss was about & was looking for a reason to jump on the 'Blokes a Knob' bandwagon) in real time and was of the opinion that he hadn't done anything illegal, indeed even Plod were surprised when they had to nick him as they had been bantering with him all afternoon & he had sought clarity each time he did anything.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, armadillo215 said:

You did indeed nail it. At least there are a couple of straight headed patriots who can and has seen through the BBC and other mockingbird entertainment venues disguising as news outlets. Why in the world so many countries have cow-towed to Islam I can't figure out other than fear of what they do when poked.

I’m not sure how ‘patriotism’ got dragged into this.

 

The issue is Yaxley Lennon broke the law and has been found guilty for doing so.

[yogi100]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lots of people get tried and convicted in court then overturn their conviction on appeal.

 

 

But only because of fresh evidence or poor justification not because an outspoken member of the public like TR has voiced his concerns.

[evadgib]

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Lots of people get tried and convicted in court then overturn their conviction on appeal.

UK Courts have to be seen to be believed, especially the frequency by which the Govt misuse their sledgehammer when it suits them.

They won't get away with it for much longer...

Edited July 8, 2019 by evadgib