Popular Post SteveStevens Posted July 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, marcusarelus said: Anything the government touches in America fails so most astute citizens want to limit it's touch. Public health care, public education, public day care, public water, public land, public social services, public tax agencies, public criminal justice system, public prisons, public fire departments, public libraries etc seem to work everywhere else. The only thing that seems to work on Americans is the ideological propaganda peddled by the corporate class and their useful idiots that government is "bad", in order to continue the corporate pilfering of the people who can't see the exploitation that is happening to them. That's what happens to a country that is a corporatocracy, not a democracy. Edited July 22, 2019 by SteveStevens 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted July 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 4 hours ago, mogandave said: The article you linked to that discussed the sexual assaults made on migrants under the Obama administration. Was your link not in my post? Checking facts is not hilarious, fact checking sites are. I assume you are being intentionally obtuse. There was no link in your post and I have no idea what article you are referring to. You'll have to give a reason for considering fact checking sites hilarious. I find them informative. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted July 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, mogandave said: It always gives me a laugh when the citizens of countries with little CS economies lecture Americans about how stupid they are. In this case the lecture is correct. 2 hours ago, marcusarelus said: Americans look to the nationalized industries in the UK like, gas, electricity, telecoms, coal, steel, airlines, and cars that all failed and were privatized and sold off and don't want that to happen to the USA. Anything the government touches in America fails so most astute citizens want to limit it's touch. What industries do these four congresswomen want to nationalize? What industries does Bernie Sanders want to nationalize? What industries do any US politicians want to nationalize? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveStevens Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, marcusarelus said: Why did the Brits sell all of the nationalized industries back to the private sector? Same thing. Here is a list of 50 or so. ... Yup those are all run by the government and they all are substandard. You just proved my point: the peddling of cheap right wing rhetoric. Edited July 22, 2019 by SteveStevens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 You just proved my point: the peddling of cheap right wing rhetoric.Yes, no doubt anything anyone says proves your point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Troll posts removed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 That link proved that Cortez was correct in her post stating that there had been charges of sexual assault against ICE personnel. Did you look at the dates of the sexual assaults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, mogandave said: Did you look at the dates of the sexual assaults? He did not. Those allegations are from the Obama Admin, and hes using them to somehow justify AOC's craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 He did not. Those allegations are from the Obama Admin, and hes using them to somehow justify AOC's craziness. I’m guessing he did.The data did include the first year or two of the Trump administration, but the issue is certainly not new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 18 hours ago, mogandave said: By promoting socialism? I'll take socialism over the conmanism being practiced in the White House. If one thinks being a top 10 nation for inequity of median wealth is a problem then the former is much more likely the cure than the later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I'll take socialism over the conmanism being practiced in the White House. If one thinks being a top 10 nation for inequity of median wealth is a problem then the former is much more likely the cure than the later.Yes, clearly the “...inequality of median wealth...” is a result of the Trump administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 hours ago, mogandave said: Did you look at the dates of the sexual assaults? 4 hours ago, Thainesss said: He did not. Those allegations are from the Obama Admin, and hes using them to somehow justify AOC's craziness. Yes I looked at the dates. Let's review how we got here. In post 531 Thainess stated that Cortez accused ICE employees of being rapists. I pointed out that she had not, she had correctly stated that there were charges of sexual assault by ICE employees, and provided the link to the article to prove her statement was correct. With your slander against Cortez discredited, you and Mogandave have been attempting to derail the topic with an Obama deflection. A standard tactic. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Yes I looked at the dates. Let's review how we got here. In post 531 Thainess stated that Cortez accused ICE employees of being rapists. I pointed out that she had not, she had correctly stated that there were charges of sexual assault by ICE employees, and provided the link to the article to prove her statement was correct. With your slander against Cortez discredited, you and Mogandave have been attempting to derail the topic with an Obama deflection. A standard tactic.Is there an industry or institution that does not have reports of sexual harassment? Why is she only calling for ICE to be eliminated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, mogandave said: Is there an industry or institution that does not have reports of sexual harassment? Why is she only calling for ICE to be eliminated? One would certainly hope so that many agencies/institutions are without accusation of sexual harrassment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 One would certainly hope so that many agencies/institutions are without accusation of sexual harrassment Yes, one would hope but one would be wrong. That they don’t make it to the news means nothing. No shortage of claims in the house and senate. Why not google “sexual harassment by public school teachers” and then explain why there’s no outrage and so little press. To be clear, I’m not deflecting or making an excuse for ICE, I’m just pointing out that the selective outrage and hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mogandave said: Yes, one would hope but one would be wrong. That they don’t make it to the news means nothing. No shortage of claims in the house and senate. Why not google “sexual harassment by public school teachers” and then explain why there’s no outrage and so little press. No interested, as it has nothing to do with the thread in this case. The thread is about the POTUS, and his words Edited July 23, 2019 by RJRS1301 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 No interested, as it has nothing to do with the thread in this case. The thread is about the POTUS, and his wordsI was responding to your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, heybruce said: Let's review how we got here. In post 531 Thainess stated that Cortez accused ICE employees of being rapists. I pointed out that she had not, she had correctly stated that there were charges of sexual assault by ICE employees, and provided the link to the article to prove her statement was correct. With your slander against Cortez discredited, you and Mogandave have been attempting to derail the topic with an Obama deflection. A standard tactic. Do you even watch AOC and the shit she says? Are you on social media at all? You cause me of 'slander' when that crazy person's rhetoric incited an Antifa member to firebomb an ICE facility and use HER 'concentration camps' rhetoric in his manifesto. She accuses ICE of being a dangerous facility, calls them 'concentration camps' calls for their ending, accuses ICE employees of being rapists, says that ICE 'forcibly injects' detainees with 'tranquilizers'. She still to this day hasn't denounced anything about Antifa bombing that ICE facility and using her rhetoric in his manefesto. You really gonna sit around here and act like she's a little victim and not a vicious, divisive, self-centered hack who most people (proven by internal democrat polling) don't even like (other than the extreme, fringe left)? Its almost comical what you guys hitch your wagons to at this point. You are handing Trump his 2020 win on a silver platter, so I guess I could really thank you for that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Do you even watch AOC and the shit she says? Are you on social media at all? You cause me of 'slander' when that crazy person's rhetoric incited an Antifa member to firebomb an ICE facility and use HER 'concentration camps' rhetoric in his manifesto. She accuses ICE of being a dangerous facility, calls them 'concentration camps' calls for their ending, accuses ICE employees of being rapists, says that ICE 'forcibly injects' detainees with 'tranquilizers'. She still to this day hasn't denounced anything about Antifa bombing that ICE facility and using her rhetoric in his manefesto. You really gonna sit around here and act like she's a little victim and not a vicious, divisive, self-centered hack who most people (proven by internal democrat polling) don't even like (other than the extreme, fringe left)? Its almost comical what you guys hitch your wagons to at this point. You are handing Trump his 2020 win on a silver platter, so I guess I could really thank you for that. I think it fair to say most of the people posting here agree, and see nothing wrong with what she says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 56 minutes ago, mogandave said: I think it fair to say most of the people posting here agree, and see nothing wrong with what she says. Which is funny because I know they believe she's a little extremist and bad for the party but have to defend her anyway, which is kind of the point of Trump firing both barrels at them to make the Dems circle their wagons around their little extremists, showing everyone that Pelosi & Co fully endorse their craziness. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Which is funny because I know they believe she's a little extremist and bad for the party but have to defend her anyway, which is kind of the point of Trump firing both barrels at them to make the Dems circle their wagons around their little extremists, showing everyone that Pelosi & Co fully endorse their craziness. That's the game. Whether people are stupid enough to buy it is another matter. I mean beyond 45's base that will buy anything. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 hours ago, mogandave said: Is there an industry or institution that does not have reports of sexual harassment? Why is she only calling for ICE to be eliminated? Why don't you ask her, or the many others asking for the elimination of ICE? https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/30/politics/abolish-ice-movement-gaining-support-democrats/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Thainesss said: Do you even watch AOC and the shit she says? Are you on social media at all? You cause me of 'slander' when that crazy person's rhetoric incited an Antifa member to firebomb an ICE facility and use HER 'concentration camps' rhetoric in his manifesto. She accuses ICE of being a dangerous facility, calls them 'concentration camps' calls for their ending, accuses ICE employees of being rapists, says that ICE 'forcibly injects' detainees with 'tranquilizers'. She still to this day hasn't denounced anything about Antifa bombing that ICE facility and using her rhetoric in his manefesto. You really gonna sit around here and act like she's a little victim and not a vicious, divisive, self-centered hack who most people (proven by internal democrat polling) don't even like (other than the extreme, fringe left)? Its almost comical what you guys hitch your wagons to at this point. You are handing Trump his 2020 win on a silver platter, so I guess I could really thank you for that. I accused you of slander (perhaps for an internet forum libel would be the correct term) because you stated she accused ICE personnel of rape. You did, and the accusation was false. That is slander when spoken and libel when printed. I don't follow the words and tweets of junior Representatives who are not from my state. I do follow the words and tweets of the President (not all of them, he BS's a lot) and find them both depressing and appalling. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I accused you of slander (perhaps for an internet forum libel would be the correct term) because you stated she accused ICE personnel of rape. You did, and the accusation was false. That is slander when spoken and libel when printed. I don't follow the words and tweets of junior Representatives who are not from my state. I do follow the words and tweets of the President (not all of them, he BS's a lot) and find them both depressing and appalling.Actually the”proof” you posted did not confirm an ICE agents were convicted of anything, much less rape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Troll posts removed. A question has been asked and answered. We cannot be responsible for not understanding it, or not liking it or whatever reason a person has to want to bicker and bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 8 hours ago, mogandave said: Actually the”proof” you posted did not confirm an ICE agents were convicted of anything, much less rape. And Cortez did not accuse anyone of rape, contrary to what Thainesss posted. She correctly pointed out that ICE employees had been accused of rape. Stop trying to divert the topic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Ilhan telling people on twitter to go back: http://archive.is/9y3Fh Talib doing the same: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 And Cortez did not accuse anyone of rape, contrary to what Thainesss posted. She correctly pointed out that ICE employees had been accused of rape. Stop trying to divert the topic.Not trying to divert, just trying to be clear. So she would shut the department down based only on accusations, yes? Incidentally, the article made no mention of rape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thainesss Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Another "go back" reference from one of the leaders of the Democrat party: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thainesss said: Another "go back" reference from one of the leaders of the Democrat party: You dont do irony do you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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