10th marriage extension, KhonKaen TODAY

[brianthainess]

Questions questions, here i go AGAIN but please read the last one * 14

Edited July 29, 2019 by brianthainess

[sometimewoodworker]

16 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

So does this mean we have to go all the way to Bangkok to get a copy because we were married in Lak Si??

No.

On 7/27/2019 at 12:09 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

Unless there is a database problem you can get a new KR2 from any amper.

I also got married in Lak Si Ket

[sometimewoodworker]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

Questions questions, here i go AGAIN but please read the last one * 14

I have read it, though your watermark makes it less easy. What is your question?

Edited July 29, 2019 by sometimewoodworker

[sometimewoodworker]

3 hours ago, brianthainess said:

 

On 7/26/2019 at 9:37 AM, dick turpin said:

How long has it been the case that it takes two months to process marriage extensions, back in my time before switching to retirement extensions it was one month.....such is progress.

2 months to season money. read the post.

 

It certainly can take 2 months to process a marriage extension 

 

This years extension finishes : 15 May 2019

application date : 25 April (money seasoned 2 months on the 25th)

report back with 2 bank letter : 29 May

Report for extension date : 14 June (7 weeks after applying) issued that day.

Issued by region 4.

 

Had I applied on the around the 15~18th it would have taken 8 weeks.

[Solinvictus]

On 7/25/2019 at 2:08 PM, spornb said:

We requested a copy of the rules and were ignored

This is a clue. A clue to how shady these folks can be and without oversight, not to mention, professionalism training. They dont give a f*** Hell, even with. I would figure with such a transparent military running the show, a simple copy of the rules would be easily handed out. TIT

[Marius Brok]

On 7/26/2019 at 4:58 AM, Dmitry2222 said:

i guess it is KorRor2. Requested every time.

Is it Kor Ror 22? Thats what I have.

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, Marius Brok said:

Is it Kor Ror 22? Thats what I have.

That is a foreign marriage registry. I assume you were married outside the country. A printout of it can be requested at an Amphoe.

A Kor Ror 2 is for a marriage done here.

[Neeranam]

20 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

It certainly can take 2 months to process a marriage extension 

 

This years extension finishes : 15 May 2019

application date : 25 April (money seasoned 2 months on the 25th)

report back with 2 bank letter : 29 May

Report for extension date : 14 June (7 weeks after applying) issued that day.

Issued by region 4.

 

Had I applied on the around the 15~18th it would have taken 8 weeks.

So, when you applied first, your visa is extracted obviously, for 2 months only?

Would you still be allowed to work with that?

[Neeranam]

On 7/27/2019 at 1:22 PM, Wazoo said:

Ok so sry a question. Is it not 400k in the bank OR 40k a month comming into a thai bank? 

One officer told me I needed 400k in the bank, and the 40k a month wouldn't be allowed. I'm going to challenge this.

[IvorBiggun2]

7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

One officer told me I needed 400k in the bank, and the 40k a month wouldn't be allowed. I'm going to challenge this.

Phone the 'Hot-Line 1178' and ask them to confirm it. Ask for the operatives ID. Better still get your wife to phone.

Edited July 30, 2019 by IvorBiggun2

[sometimewoodworker]

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

So, when you applied first, your visa is extracted obviously, for 2 months only?

Would you still be allowed to work with that?

Could you rephrase your question as it doesn't make sense.

 

However a work permit is totally separate from an extension of stay or visa. You need both to be valid to work legally.

[sometimewoodworker]

13 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

One officer told me I needed 400k in the bank, and the 40k a month wouldn't be allowed. I'm going to challenge this.

It always helps to know which immigration office you are talking about.

[Neeranam]

12 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

So, when you applied first, your visa is extended obviously, for 2 months only?

 

 

[Neeranam]

12 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

It always helps to know which immigration office you are talking about.

Look at the title of the thread.

[sometimewoodworker]

 

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

So, when you applied first, your visa is extracted obviously, for 2 months only?

Would you still be allowed to work with that?

 

56 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

You have attributed you post to me, I am not clairvoyant, it makes no sense, you still haven't made clear what your are talking about, or what your question is. 

 

The only 2 month visa is a single entry tourist visa which can not be extended for marriage and does not permit work so is nothing to do with the title of the thread.

 

[Neeranam]

On 7/29/2019 at 1:05 PM, sometimewoodworker said:

It certainly can take 2 months to process a marriage extension 

 

This years extension finishes : 15 May 2019

application date : 25 April (money seasoned 2 months on the 25th)

report back with 2 bank letter : 29 May

Report for extension date : 14 June (7 weeks after applying) issued that day.

Issued by region 4.

 

Had I applied on the around the 15~18th it would have taken 8 weeks.

My question is this.

Your extension finished 15 May.

7 weeks after applying for a new one, you are given a extension.

Were you given some kind of provisional extension for 7 weeks or given a 7 week extension. Maybe you were given 1 year that would have been cancelled if you didn't have the cash in the bank?

 

 

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Were you given some kind of provisional extension for 7 weeks or given a 7 week extension.

He got he standard under consideration stamp with a report back date 7 weeks after doing the application. Here in the NE they start the 30 days from the end of your current permit to stay not the date of application.

[sometimewoodworker]

50 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My question is this.

Your extension finished 15 May.

Yes that is accurate 

51 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

7 weeks after applying for a new one, you are given a extension.

Again correct. On the 15 of June I got an extension that finishes on the 15th of May 2020

51 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Were you given some kind of provisional extension for 7 weeks or given a 7 week extension. Maybe you were given 1 year that would have been cancelled if you didn't have the cash in the bank?

 I did not receive anything but an under consideration stamp, this is accepted as equivalent to the extension of stay until immigration is ready to give the one year extension, it does not matter if immigration is not ready on the report back date as the under consideration stamp makes you legal.

 

 

 

as I said I was given a "prove money in the bank again" date of May 29, and told "no proof no extension.

 

As ubonjoe has said Regon 4 gives an under consideration period that finishes 30 days after the current extension. Whenever you apply. I know of people in regon 4 who have not got their extension until 45 days after the extension finished, 2 weeks after the report back date, immigration did not stamp anything extra in their passport.

 

none of this makes any difference to your work permit, different branch of government, different rules.

 

but don't forget TIT.

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[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

He got he standard under consideration stamp with a report back date 7 weeks after doing the application. Here in the NE they start the 30 days from the end of your current permit to stay not the date of application.

Thanks Joe! The reason I'm asking is that due to being in the Thai citizenship process, I need a continuous visa, with no gaps. Is this considered a continuous visa that I can get a WP with, again with no gaps.? I'm changing from a working extension to a marriage. 

Maybe if I insist on the salary option, there is no such consideration period.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Thanks Joe! The reason I'm asking is that due to being in the Thai citizenship process, I need a continuous visa, with no gaps. Is this considered a continuous visa that I can get a WP with, again with no gaps.? I'm changing from a working extension to a marriage. 

It will be a continuous extension since your new extension will start from the same day your extension current extension ends after the application is approved.

 

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Maybe if I insist on the salary option, there is no such consideration period.

You still have the under consideration period. It doesn't matter what financial proof you use.

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Thanks Joe! The reason I'm asking is that due to being in the Thai citizenship process, I need a continuous visa, with no gaps.

As you are in the citizenship process you will have to pay tax on your Thai income and as that is virtually certain to be 40,000 or more there is no need to have money in the bank. All you need is your Thai tax documentation and work permit. This is from regon 4every immigration office accepts Thai income for extension renewal.

[spornb]

I started this thread a week ago, because I was irritated at myself for not knowing the rules, and expecting hassle, I forgot to mention I even had to show original non o entry in an old passport

 

At the end of the day all accomplished and quickly,  with a government official giving me a little hard time, my wife probably gets worse on a daily basis and she is a true angel

 

WE WERE NOT ASKED FOR ANYTHING WE COULD NOT WITH MORE EFFORT PRODUCE

 

When we go we take a big file even with spare photos, and all old passports, many original certificates etc

 

Keep smiling do not allow them to get under your skin or into your head

[IvorBiggun2]

37 minutes ago, spornb said:

Keep smiling do not allow them to get under your skin or into your head

Good post Sporn. I wish it was that easy. They pee me off so much that I have to take the missus every time and let her do the talking. I hate hypocrites and that's all they are. One minute they want you to abide by the rules. The next they want you to pay them bribes /tea money.

As I recall, 14 years ago it wasn't this bad. I'd never heard of an 'Agent' doing extensions until about 5 years ago, tops. Been here 14 years and I've been legal for every one. And always will be. 

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by IvorBiggun2

[CGW]

On 7/26/2019 at 9:05 AM, DUNROAMIN said:

Should be reported to higher authorities, this is the sort of crap us expats have to face with these corrupt people every day in Thailand.

Do you think the "higher authorities" are even vaguely interested? they maybe upset that their percentage not being paid!

[IvorBiggun2]

49 minutes ago, spornb said:

When we go we take a big file even with spare photos, and all old passports, many original certificates etc

I don't know if you put it in an earlier post. But I'm going to do my first 'Marriage Extension' in a couple of weeks and I'm struggling to understand the requirements of obtaining said extension. How many photo's, witnesses etc? Is there a link where I can get the full SP?

[BoganInParasite]

I find the Nan office folks very helpful and pleasant, but sometimes... Was there today to lodge the paperwork for a second marriage extension. Had a freshly minted KR22 from the local office ready. They also wanted a copy of our (Australian) Marriage Certificate; missed that. Didn't have a copy printed but could access it from cloud storage and got it printed during the lunch break. Took it back. Accepted, but then clarified they wanted a Thai language version of it. Never heard of such a requirement. Thankfully found at home later in the day the certified Thai language version we had prepared last year to register our marriage in Thailand. Bit of a bonus, it was attached to an Australian Bangkok Embassy certified copy of our Marriage Certificate so with the grace of God or some other deity, we may get past this little challenge tomorrow.

Edited July 31, 2019 by BoganInParasite

[IvorBiggun2]

^ What and how many photo's did you have to show.?

[BoganInParasite]

13 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

^ What and how many photo's did you have to show.?

We provided four. One outside showing the house and house number, one sitting at the dining table, another on a living room sofa and the usual sitting on the bed. I recall last year we had a greater selection and they selected one outside and three inside.

[IvorBiggun2]

1 minute ago, BoganInParasite said:

We provided four. One outside showing the house and house number, one sitting at the dining table, another on a living room sofa and the usual sitting on the bed. I recall last year we had a greater selection and they selected one outside and three inside.

Thank you.

[spornb]

On 7/25/2019 at 2:08 PM, spornb said:

We thought we knew the rules, did  our 10th marriage extn at KhonKaen this morning, and  found we were not up to date on the rules

 

The marriage confirmation from local Ampur was rejected since it was not dated July, it was dated June 28 got replacement

 

400,000 Deposit, bank letter etc done BUT now told we can not touch it until our date for visa collection, (Sept 15 2019) this was never the case before, is there a government statement on this, we had promised builders this money this week, so effectively 400,000 tied up two months plus six weeks, if the money not there visa will not be issued. We were told by the boss lady very firmly,  if we do not like it do not get visa extension

 

It is the sudden change in rules that is the upsetting point

 

We requested a copy of the rules and were ignored

 

I thought grandfather in rules meant that original rules kept going so long as no break in continuity

 

Any input appreciated

END OF STORY

 

Finally seven weeks after applying our extension is approved, no questions, no visits, just slowly and quietly goes through

 

Nothing was said about the 400,000 bhat still being there, it was, because the risk was too great but they never checked or asked

 

I also used the disabled bell and avoided the stairs at KhonKaen, and did multiple reentry they sent a trainee down to see me

 

Maybe next year I use an agent if anyone KhonKaen knows one please let me know the no stress for me