Village dogs

[georgegeorgia]

My friend has asked me to visit his village  in Isaan again ( Won Non) 

 

last time i went i was nearly attacked by wild dogs, went for what i thought was a nice walk to the temple which had a cemetery of cremation statutes

 

i could actually hear dogs in the distance barking but took no notice.

 

on walking out of the temple about 4 barking dogs approached me so i walked back into the grounds and was going to head out the other exit only to see the little mongrels had also blocked that exit 

 

these were absolutely viscious and then the big one tried to attack before i ran back into the monks area where i was helped 

 

how do u guys go with this that live in the village?

 

 

[Swedenlars]

My friend has asked me to visit his village  in Isaan again ( Won Non) 
 
last time i went i was nearly attacked by wild dogs, went for what i thought was a nice walk to the temple which had a cemetery of cremation statutes
 
i could actually hear dogs in the distance barking but took no notice.
 
on walking out of the temple about 4 barking dogs approached me so i walked back into the grounds and was going to head out the other exit only to see the little mongrels had also blocked that exit 
 
these were absolutely viscious and then the big one tried to attack before i ran back into the monks area where i was helped 
 
how do u guys go with this that live in the village?
 
 

Rule number one: Never run away from a dog. Stand stiil, turn your back on him/them. Walk slowly away. If this doesn't help: Bad luck[emoji13]

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[Issannative]

Get a walking stick well I call it that. Smack em if they come near. Never back down 

[Andrew Dwyer]

After being bitten ( on my bicycle never saw it coming ) a year and a half ago I now carry one of those extending batons on my bike and one in the car.

Never actually made contact but just the action of snapping it out has deterred dogs and monkeys !!

[CharlieH]

I carry a bottle of water in the village, any dog gets too close, for whatever reason, gets a flick of water, they run every time. Drink is always handy too ????

[Lacessit]

Ammonia in a water pistol.

[meand]

u could carry anything bigger than a chopstick and they will all run like hell the moment you raise it. they have all taken some serious shilackings. 

[Moonlover]

Never run. Never carry a stick. Walk on calmly making friendly sounds if you so wish.

 

Barking dogs are not being aggressive. They are simply announcing their presence in their territory. If you show no signs of aggression yourself, you are very unlikely to have any problems.

 

I've applied this format for many years both here and in Egypt. It's never let me down.

 

Cyclists do, of course have a different issue. Speeding past a dog on a bicycle can trigger the hunting instinct and they'll give chase. Best thing to do, I've always found is to stop and look back toward them. It confuses them because prey don't normally do that!

[mike787]

This works very well.   Sold on walking street.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, mike787 said:

This works very well.   Sold on walking street.

I'm sure it does. However, given one has to get up close and personal to make contact, the odds are pretty good one would be bitten before or while applying it.

[mike787]

7 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I'm sure it does. However, given one has to get up close and personal to make contact, the odds are pretty good one would be bitten before or while applying it.

This will give a little more distance. Swing at them like your playing base ball...aim for the head. 

[villagefarang]

11 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Never run. Never carry a stick. Walk on calmly making friendly sounds if you so wish.

 

Barking dogs are not being aggressive. They are simply announcing their presence in their territory. If you show no signs of aggression yourself, you are very unlikely to have any problems.

 

I've applied this format for many years both here and in Egypt. It's never let me down.

 

Cyclists do, of course have a different issue. Speeding past a dog on a bicycle can trigger the hunting instinct and they'll give chase. Best thing to do, I've always found is to stop and look back toward them. It confuses them because prey don't normally do that!

I am in agreement with you.  I hike, run, cycle, and walk my own dog and I have never had a real problem.  There can be some noise but I have always found being friendly and not being afraid works.  I enjoy watching the interaction between human and dog as well as dog and dog.

 

We have an older dog who makes scary noises but never bites.  Other dogs are intimidated at first but they soon learn how to deal with the grumpy old man.  I have noticed that dogs where I live don't appreciate aggressive humans and they do remember.  Better to play nice and make friends in my opinion.

[Moonlover]

2 minutes ago, villagefarang said:

I have noticed that dogs where I live don't appreciate aggressive humans and they do remember.  Better to play nice and make friends in my opinion.

I live across the road from 5 dogs. One snarled at me when I first came to live here, but he soon realized that I was no threat and now he and all the pack treat me with indifference.

 

There is only one person in the village who gets any angst from them and that's a women from down the road who insists on waving a stick at them whenever she passes.

[Pilotman]

6 minutes ago, villagefarang said:

I am in agreement with you.  I hike, run, cycle, and walk my own dog and I have never had a real problem.  There can be some noise but I have always found being friendly and not being afraid works.  I enjoy watching the interaction between human and dog as well as dog and dog.

 

We have an older dog who makes scary noises but never bites.  Other dogs are intimidated at first but they soon learn how to deal with the grumpy old man.  I have noticed that dogs where I live don't appreciate aggressive humans and they do remember.  Better to play nice and make friends in my opinion.

If you take that as normal, it will not be long before you are in trouble.  In a land filed with soi dogs and with rabies present, as well as many other transmittable diseases, to your dog if not to you, absolute caution and discretion is a must.  Thai dogs, as we all know,  are much more territorial than domesticated pets and if you invade what they see as their space they can very easily attack you without warning. Even dogs on the beach can be just as bad. I carry a large stick when I walk my little dog and never let them get close to me or to him. 

[villagefarang]

You are of course free to do things your own way but I am not about to change what works for me.

[soalbundy]

The dogs live in the temple, it is their territory so outside of normal worship days they will react with barking if you walk around the grounds but they won't attack or bite, however a nervous or an aggressive behaviour on your part will arouse their suspicions and attention and they will increase the barking, just walk around normally and pay no attention, they soon calm down. 

[villagefarang]

Where I live, any animal which is a threat to humans is taken care of.  Think about it, if dogs in a temple were actually biting people and not simply acting as an early warning system, do you think the village would allow that?

 

I keep my Golden Retriever on a leash when we walk, to protect her from the crazy humans.????

[Andrew Dwyer]

I was of the opinion that soi dogs will only be aggressive if they think you are entering their territory.

But, when I was riding my bicycle I entered a narrow soi, I sensed the dog too late as he lunged at me from behind and nipped the back of my thigh just underneath my backside.
I believe he was under a pickup.
He ran off down the soi , no doubt happy with himself [emoji51], I now avoid this soi.

Now I carry a “ deterrent “ !!.

I will only use it if the threat becomes obvious.

I like dogs and have owned many but here the shear numbers of dogs roaming the streets makes me unwilling to have any more.

[villagefarang]

Cycling does present challenges as the movement seems to provoke prey-drive in some animals.  I pay attention and stop when necessary, calling to them in a gentle voice.  I don't ride in an urban environment so my actions are predicated on my environment and circumstances.  Everyone has to find what works for them and accept the consequences.

Edited July 29, 2019 by villagefarang

[NoshowJones]

12 hours ago, Moonlover said:

Never run. Never carry a stick. Walk on calmly making friendly sounds if you so wish.

 

Barking dogs are not being aggressive. They are simply announcing their presence in their territory. If you show no signs of aggression yourself, you are very unlikely to have any problems.

 

I've applied this format for many years both here and in Egypt. It's never let me down.

 

Cyclists do, of course have a different issue. Speeding past a dog on a bicycle can trigger the hunting instinct and they'll give chase. Best thing to do, I've always found is to stop and look back toward them. It confuses them because prey don't normally do that!

I carry a couple of big stones on my bike, if any dogs chase me, I look at it as attempted assault, when I am being chased, I slow down until the dog gets along side me then I wallop it with the big stone.

This has happened twice in the last six months, and I have never seen either of these dogs again and I ride pass the same places nearly every day.

[jvs]

9 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I'm sure it does. However, given one has to get up close and personal to make contact, the odds are pretty good one would be bitten before or while applying it.

The sound will make any dog run away,no dog will bite you when you use this to keep them at a distance.

If they do try?fry them!!

[Orton Rd]

Expandable metal batton about 100 baht, whip it out and the most aggressive dog will have second thoughts. If it still goes for you a whack on the nose will make it back off.

[Colabamumbai]

Get a dog. 

[jesimps]

I always carry a bag of doggy chews and a stick just in case. Seems to work ok as I haven't been bitten in 12 years either walking or biking. Had a few close calls mind.

[Catoni]

    Get hold of Bear Spray someplace ...or maybe on the internet...  It's not ordinary pepper spray...  it's super strong made to defend against bears.  

     The soi dogs will recover and not be permanently hurt, but after just a few encounters with you, they will quickly learn to avoid you.  They will end up quickly disappearing when they see you coming down the street.

Edited July 30, 2019 by Catoni
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[Catoni]

22 hours ago, Pilotman said:

If you take that as normal, it will not be long before you are in trouble.  In a land filed with soi dogs and with rabies present, as well as many other transmittable diseases, to your dog if not to you, absolute caution and discretion is a must.  Thai dogs, as we all know,  are much more territorial than domesticated pets and if you invade what they see as their space they can very easily attack you without warning. Even dogs on the beach can be just as bad. I carry a large stick when I walk my little dog and never let them get close to me or to him. 

  That's why I got my three Rabies pre-exposure vaccine shots.  If bitten by a rabid dog, rat or bat, etc... I will only need two more vaccine shots.. and I don't have to worry whether or not they have Human Rabies Immune Globulin..(sometimes not easy to find),  or the very pricey cost of HRIG.

  In some places in the world, HRIG can cost a couple thousand bucks. 

    If you have NOT had your three pre-exposure Rabies vaccine shots and you get bitten or otherwise exposed to Rabies.... you MUST also get HRIG. 

    However. you don't need HRIG if you've had your three pre-exposure Rabies vaccine shots.  You only need two more Rabies vaccine shots....taken on day 0 and day 3 or as soon as absolutely possible... Don't wait... because once symptoms start showing... it's too late.. and you are going to die a bad death. 

    Easy... ????   

Edited July 30, 2019 by Catoni
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[villagefarang]

Some of you guys come off as really paranoid and extremely violent.  I will take my chances with the dogs.????

[Sydebolle]

On 7/28/2019 at 10:21 PM, Lacessit said:

Ammonia in a water pistol.

Sold in 7/11? 

 

[Kurtf]

A spray bottle with vinegar and water works wonders. Try to get a bottle that lets you spray a stream so you don’t have to get to close to get it in their eyes.

[Paul52]

Friction lock (telescopic) baton and pepper spray.  I always take it with me when walking my dog.  Not had to use it yet.  Just the sound of the baton thwacking out makes them back off.

BTW, the dogs that bark are generally not the ones to worry about when walking; it’s the silent ones that try to creep up on your blind side.  Riding a bike will always trigger an unpredictable response, especially from pregnant and and postnatal bitches.