webfact Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Thai central bank still worried about speculation in baht FILE PHOTO: New baht banknotes featuring Thailand's King Maha Vajiralongkorn are unveiled during a news conference at Bank of Thailand headquarters in Bangkok, Thailand, July 3, 2018. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thailand's central bank is still worried about speculation in the baht <THB=TH> and has tools to handle it, a senior official said on Wednesday, as the Thai currency has stayed strong despite recent measures to slow fund inflows from abroad. The central bank, however, will let the baht follow market forces, Don Nakornthab, a senior director of the Bank ofThailand (BOT), told a news briefing. The baht has strengthened about 5.9% against the dollar so far this year, becoming the best performing currency in Asia, driven by capital inflows. (Reporting by Kitiphong Thaichareon; Writing by Orathai Sriring; Editing Jacqueline Wong) -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-31 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metisdead Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Another related story on CNBC: Thailand’s currency keeps getting stronger and that’s sparking concerns KEY POINTS Since the beginning of this year, Thailand’s currency has jumped more than 5% against the dollar. On a year-over-year basis, it has bounded even higher — nearly 8%. ”(The) strong currency is worsening the (Thai) economy’s plight by hurting exports further,” Prakash Sakpal, Asia economist at Dutch bank ING, tells CNBC. The country’s central bank could give in to pressure and cut rates to curb the rising baht, economists say. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/31/thai-baht-strength-sparks-concerns-with-thailand-economy-slowing.html 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nkg Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Well, Bank of Thailand ..... If you lower interest rates, the Thai baht will be less attractive to currency speculators, who will take their their money elsewhere. The baht will fall 5% or so. Everybody wins. 7 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotMahKid Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Till the moment they all want to cash the profit and sell everything. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hellstens Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Take down the Bath and you maybe will have your turist back, and people can start to live again. now you destroy for everyone in the tourism industry. and for us try to live here :( 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geoffbezoz Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 "Thailand's central bank is still worried about speculation in the baht <THB=TH> and has tools to handle it" So true, so very true, with tools being the operative word especially now that the PM has put himself in charge of the economy. 7 1 2 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, hellstens said: Take down the Bath and you maybe will have your turist back, and people can start to live again. now you destroy for everyone in the tourism industry. and for us try to live here ???? Do you really think that Thailand can effect UK or USA monetary policy? From the article above, "The country’s central bank could give in to pressure and cut rates to curb the rising baht, economists said. Still, they were not optimistic about the effectiveness of such a move. “The (Bank of Thailand) could consider a rate cut to help reduce the baht’s yield appeal, but it will be no panacea,” DBS analysts said in their note, adding that a cut of 25 basis points would just undo a hike by the central bank last December. ING’s Sakpal similarly said that any cut would see limited results." The Central bank can't really do anything legal to reduce the value of the baht. It's not a Thai problem it is a UK problem. Edited July 31, 2019 by marcusarelus 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusarelus Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, hellstens said: Take down the Bath and you maybe will have your turist back, and people can start to live again. now you destroy for everyone in the tourism industry. and for us try to live here ???? They can't take down the baht. Ask for something reasonable like don't leave the EU if you want money again. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, nkg said: Well, Bank of Thailand ..... If you lower interest rates, the Thai baht will be less attractive to currency speculators, who will take their their money elsewhere. The baht will fall 5% or so. Everybody wins. No one has proposed a method of taking the baht down 5% in relation to the Pound or USD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 Bank of Thailand should stop worrying and thinking. With Big P now in charge of economy it will be fixed in no time. Once riot dispersal vehicles are delivered there will be even less to worry about 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted July 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2019 24 minutes ago, hellstens said: Take down the Bath and you maybe will have your turist back, and people can start to live again. now you destroy for everyone in the tourism industry. and for us try to live here ???? It is not possible just to take down any currency , it’s called currency manipulation which is a punishable offence. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Card Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 14 hours ago, nkg said: Well, Bank of Thailand ..... If you lower interest rates, the Thai baht will be less attractive to currency speculators, who will take their their money elsewhere. The baht will fall 5% or so. Everybody wins ........except savers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 13 hours ago, hellstens said: Take down the Bath and you maybe will have your turist back, and people can start to live again. now you destroy for everyone in the tourism industry. and for us try to live here ???? Rather a simplistic view, the government is also concerned about private household debt, lowering rates wouldn't do much to curb the Baht but would increase household debt even more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinKal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, hellstens said: Take down the Bath and you maybe will have your turist back, and people can start to live again. now you destroy for everyone in the tourism industry. and for us try to live here ???? The responsibility of the central bank is economic : to ensure a stable currency. It fundamentally follows market forces, the thought is not a fully pegged currency. The central bank is not a tool to manipulate the value of the currency for speculative or political reasons. If it were, why would all these analysts working in the private sector write up all these reports for newspapers and as guidance for government and their clients at retail banks? Edited August 1, 2019 by MartinKal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, soalbundy said: Rather a simplistic view, the government is also concerned about private household debt, lowering rates wouldn't do much to curb the Baht but would increase household debt even more. I think the lower interest rates would certainly have an effect on the Baht as short term money goes where the best rates are and currently Thailand has the best and household debt should be managed by government policy, the banks and householders not the central bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 And by the way Thailand has a healthy surplus, which some of which should be spent on the more needy in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinKal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 13 hours ago, marcusarelus said: No one has proposed a method of taking the baht down 5% in relation to the Pound or USD The baht is strong because of the realities of its economy. Look at foreign reserves, debt and balance of payments, employment, inflation, interest rates, growth prospects. Mock P if you wish, but he is working a long-term strategy (maybe more attention / flexibility to short-term considerations is needed). Look at all that and compare to the leading economies. The States has just lowered interest rates for the first time since 2008 and money will flow out into the baht and other higher-yielding currencies, as a result. (The baht had been expected to weaken through the rest of the year until December when a US rate hike had been expected.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, jewell49 said: And by the way Thailand has a healthy surplus, which some of which should be spent on the more needy in the country. This is Thailand. Any money given to the poor will end up in the village headman's pocket. Figure out something like education moderated by one of the 3 honest bureaucrats in Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, MartinKal said: The baht is strong because of the realities of its economy. Look at foreign reserves, debt and balance of payments, employment, inflation, interest rates, growth prospects. Mock P if you wish, but he is working a long-term strategy (maybe more attention / flexibility to short-term considerations is needed). Look at all that and compare to the leading economies. The States has just lowered interest rates for the first time since 2008 and money will flow out into the baht and other higher-yielding currencies, as a result. (The baht had been expected to weaken through the rest of the year until December when a US rate hike had been expected.) Have you looked today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helloagain Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 15 hours ago, nkg said: Well, Bank of Thailand ..... If you lower interest rates, the Thai baht will be less attractive to currency speculators, who will take their their money elsewhere. The baht will fall 5% or so. Everybody wins. I want the arse to fall out of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, helloagain said: I want the arse to fall out of it Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPKANKAN Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 14 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: "Thailand's central bank is still worried about speculation in the baht <THB=TH> and has tools to handle it" So true, so very true, with tools being the operative word especially now that the PM has put himself in charge of the economy. No bigger tool worth the praise!! 5555???????????????? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MartinKal Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Ive looked up the figures. Thailand is doing well, but of course that are problems. The country has 218 billion dollars of foreign reserves. Growth last year was 4.2%. Inflation is very low too low 0.9%. Unemployment is below 3%. There is a balance of payments excedent of 6.4%. The troubles in the economy come from lower exports due to these trade disputes and poor receipts from tourism due to the strong baht. (Of course there is much more to it than this, and the government can do a great deal to modulate things under its control, but to just characterise and headline.) If Thailand is selling less abroad, could it sell more at home? Could it invest more? Yes it could. It could let more go from its tax expectations ( because if people spend it's a good thing and if they repay their debts which is a problem in the private sector that is even better!) It could spend some of its reserves, or do some monetary easing as printing money is called, on improving, even rebuilding, the infrastructure. Take care with PPP public-private Partnerships, as they can be real scams. And the experience in the west of QE is a really big red warning flag. Consider transport. Not inter city or the line from China to the west; but just City level transport, especially in the TAT's top 12 tourist towns. Tramways. And this could tick the ecology box as pollution is a really big problem and a big negative for tourism. As well as ecology, social reform is another box that needs ticking. Fundamental Improvement in the education system. Thailand 4.0. More investment and opportunity in technology - MICE. The north-south Divide is a real potential vote loser and even potentially cause of civil unrest. Inequality is not tolerated these days. While migrant flows from neighboring countries into the richer economy of Thailand are not wanted, inclusiveness is an issue. Edited August 1, 2019 by MartinKal 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinKal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 37 minutes ago, marcusarelus said: Have you looked today? Yes. 30.77 yesterday to 30.73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 14 hours ago, BestB said: Bank of Thailand should stop worrying and thinking. With Big P now in charge of economy it will be fixed in no time. Once riot dispersal vehicles are delivered there will be even less to worry about In seven days no doubt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 If Bangkok Bank sayes it’s worried, then they’re about a year too late. Tourists will go elsewhere. Exports are falling. And the regime wants another ChiCom sub. That explains why BoT has no plans to lower interest rates. Gotta built up cash reserves for Thailand 4.0 (aka ChiComs Belt & Road Initiative). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said: If Bangkok Bank sayes it’s worried, then they’re about a year too late. Tourists will go elsewhere. Exports are falling. And the regime wants another ChiCom sub. That explains why BoT has no plans to lower interest rates. Gotta built up cash reserves for Thailand 4.0 (aka ChiComs Belt & Road Initiative). In the past year tourism is up so tourists are not going somewhere else and money for any infrastructure improvements will be taken out a a current operating fund and not bank reserves. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, MartinKal said: Yes. 30.77 yesterday to 30.73 Didn't seem enough to bother with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaan sailor Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, marcusarelus said: In the past year tourism is up so tourists are not going somewhere else and money for any infrastructure improvements will be taken out a a current operating fund and not bank reserves. We shall see, Marcus, what happens to tourists bookings for the coming high season. I think you will see a nosedive come November (provided we have same Baht exchange rate). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisswe Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 15 hours ago, geoffbezoz said: "Thailand's central bank is still worried about speculation in the baht <THB=TH> and has tools to handle it" So true, so very true, with tools being the operative word especially now that the PM has put himself in charge of the economy. Yes they know how to sucking money out of the country for there's own profit !!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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